Intermittent Fasting...

  • fitwelshguy

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    Apr 17, 2013 10:25 PM GMT
    seems to be causing a stir, anyone tried it? success?

  • AMoonHawk

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    Apr 17, 2013 10:29 PM GMT
    yes it works
  • LJay

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    Apr 18, 2013 1:05 AM GMT
    As a diabetic, this would be a no-no.
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    Apr 18, 2013 1:09 AM GMT
    This topic is available from prior discussions.
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    Apr 18, 2013 2:10 AM GMT
    Works great! Try to find fitness black book...written by some dude named Rusty. Great info in there about how to apply to a workout plan.
  • TheBizMan

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    Apr 18, 2013 2:23 AM GMT
    chuckystud saidThis topic is available from prior discussions.

    The only topic I could think of in reference to this was Yourname2000's.....which had to do with anal sex.

    Lol.
  • LJay

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    Apr 18, 2013 2:29 AM GMT
    chuckystud saidThis topic is available from prior discussions.


    Links, please. the search function for this site seems never to give results for me.
  • TroyAthlete

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    Apr 18, 2013 2:54 AM GMT
    Broscientists: "Obviously this would never work because your body can only absorb 30g protein per sitting. I mean look at these intermittent fasters, clearly they're absorbing no protein by getting it all in one or two meals and they are protein deficient and on the verge of death":

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  • AMoonHawk

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    Apr 18, 2013 4:43 AM GMT
    [quote][cite]TroyAthlete said[/cite]Broscientists: "Obviously this would never work because your body can only absorb 30g protein per sitting. I mean look at these intermittent fasters, clearly they're absorbing no protein by getting it all in one or two meals and they are protein deficient and on the verge of death":

    LOL ... hmmm ... so that's what the verge of death looks like ... I never realized it could look so good
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    Apr 18, 2013 10:03 AM GMT
    My PT had me try this, I'm just starting out and the fasting helped me get hungry enough to get the extra calories in at lunch and dinner that I need for the day.

    He does it and he's a huge guy, bigger than most on this site so it works for some people.

    Althought the point seems logical, I've also heard that any more then around 30g of protein in one meal gets passed, so fasting doesn't seem like it should work.

    might be just another fad.
  • MikeW

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    Apr 18, 2013 2:57 PM GMT
    Brad Pilon is the origin of the current interest in this concept. His blog explores his philosophy. His PDF book "Eat Stop Eat" explains the history and virtues of fasting in some depth.

    What *he* means by "Intermittent Fasting" is taking a 24 hour or so break from consuming anything caloric on a semi-regular basis (usually once or twice a week), with regular eating on other days. This not only puts one in an over-all or long-range caloric deficit (assuming one doesn't make up the caloric difference on feeding days) it gives the whole digestive system a regular break from activity.

    Whether that is a good idea or not is something to be discussed. Brad's POV, spelled out in his book, is it has significant health benefits. YMMV.
  • AMoonHawk

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    Apr 18, 2013 3:31 PM GMT
    I must be thinking of another program because the one that I am thinking of, 2 days out of the week you cut your calorie intake waaaaay back, that doesn't mean starve yourself. For instance take 2 days out of the week and on those days decide that you will only eat 1 small can of tuna, a grapefruit, tomato slices, and celery sticks, (or instead of tomato slices, one slice of bread) and that will be all you will eat that entire day, but drink pleanty of water.
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    Apr 18, 2013 3:37 PM GMT
    I've been doing it for prob 2 years now. I like it a lot!

    But it isn't for everyone. If you are the type who like to eat often, it prob isn't for you.
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    Apr 18, 2013 3:54 PM GMT
    I did Leangains style intermittent fasting for several months last year when I restarted my fitness journey. It worked for me because (1) I don't crave breakfast, (2) I like to eat bigger meals, especially at dinner, and (3) it was just a really good tool to start getting a handle on what foods/nutrients I was ingesting.

    I don't think there's anything magic about it, though. I know there are extravagant health claims for the Eat/Stop/Eat style, but I'm not convinced. Basically, I think it's just a way for you to learn to control your own hunger. And to disprove the notion that you have to eat constant small meals to make good progress - tracking overall calories and nutrients generally is much more important than when you ingest them.
  • MikeW

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    Apr 18, 2013 4:30 PM GMT
    AMoonHawk saidI must be thinking of another program because the one that I am thinking of, 2 days out of the week you cut your calorie intake waaaaay back, that doesn't mean starve yourself. For instance take 2 days out of the week and on those days decide that you will only eat 1 small can of tuna, a grapefruit, tomato slices, and celery sticks, (or instead of tomato slices, one slice of bread) and that will be all you will eat that entire day, but drink pleanty of water.

    Since Brad published his PDF book there have been many variations on the concept. Quoting Brad:

    LeanGains, The Renegade Diet and even some of the more extreme protocols along these lines (like fasting for 20 hours eating for 4 every day) - all can incredibly effective fat loss programs, but in my eyes (and I know you guys are going to hate this) NOT intermittent Fasting. To me they are more accurately described as Intermittent Feeding.


  • MikeW

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    Apr 18, 2013 4:32 PM GMT
    showme saidI did Leangains style intermittent fasting for several months last year when I restarted my fitness journey. It worked for me because (1) I don't crave breakfast, (2) I like to eat bigger meals, especially at dinner, and (3) it was just a really good tool to start getting a handle on what foods/nutrients I was ingesting.

    I don't think there's anything magic about it, though. I know there are extravagant health claims for the Eat/Stop/Eat style, but I'm not convinced. Basically, I think it's just a way for you to learn to control your own hunger. And to disprove the notion that you have to eat constant small meals to make good progress - tracking overall calories and nutrients generally is much more important than when you ingest them.

    Same here and I basically agree with your point.
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    Apr 18, 2013 4:35 PM GMT
    Totally read this as intermittent fisting..
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    Apr 18, 2013 4:45 PM GMT
    Seric saidTotally read this as intermittent fisting..

    LOL, yeah, I do that all the time. I kept seeing the "Prom" thread as "Porn," etc., even when I knew it wasn't. What's that tell ya about where my head's at. icon_razz.gif
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    Aug 16, 2013 2:03 PM GMT
    TroyAthlete saidBroscientists: "Obviously this would never work because your body can only absorb 30g protein per sitting. I mean look at these intermittent fasters, clearly they're absorbing no protein by getting it all in one or two meals and they are protein deficient and on the verge of death":

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    Damn what protocol is he on? I´m doing a fast from 6pm til mid afternoon the next day about once a week. Are any of you "window eaters" (eating in an 8 or whatever hour window). I´ve also been experimenting with training fasted and fasting after training. I´m fine on it.
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    Aug 16, 2013 3:14 PM GMT
    Works great for me!
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    Aug 17, 2013 3:38 AM GMT
    TheGuyNextDoor saidI would still love to hear what some of you fasters are eating and when. Then how long you go before eating again.
    Is this something you're doing on Monday's and Thursdays in a week, or what's you plan?

    I do mine more or less the way Brad Pilon outlines it in his e-book. I stop eating for about 24 hours around 6 PM one day and wait until the next day at 6 PM to resume eating. The gist of it is that you don't gorge before or after fasting, because that ruins the whole point of it (to create a reasonable caloric deficit). Once you resume eating, you act like nothing ever happened and eat your normal portion sizes for a meal. Sometimes it's Mon Thu, sometimes it's Tue Fri, depends on my work week.
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    Aug 17, 2013 3:51 AM GMT
    Seric saidTotally read this as intermittent fisting..


    As opposed to 'Constant Fisting'?

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  • TroyAthlete

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    Aug 17, 2013 4:01 AM GMT
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    TheGuyNextDoor saidI would still love to hear what some of you fasters are eating and when. Then how long you go before eating again.
    Is this something you're doing on Monday's and Thursdays in a week, or what's you plan?

    I do mine more or less the way Brad Pilon outlines it in his e-book. I stop eating for about 24 hours around 6 PM one day and wait until the next day at 6 PM to resume eating. The gist of it is that you don't gorge before or after fasting, because that ruins the whole point of it (to create a reasonable caloric deficit). Once you resume eating, you act like nothing ever happened and eat your normal portion sizes for a meal. Sometimes it's Mon Thu, sometimes it's Tue Fri, depends on my work week.


    You do the Pilon fast twice a week? That's hardcore.
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    Aug 17, 2013 4:14 AM GMT
    Anocxu said
    Seric saidTotally read this as intermittent fisting..


    As opposed to 'Constant Fisting'?

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    I read the title really fast and thats what I read too icon_lol.gif
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    TroyAthlete said
    juvenescences said
    TheGuyNextDoor saidI would still love to hear what some of you fasters are eating and when. Then how long you go before eating again.
    Is this something you're doing on Monday's and Thursdays in a week, or what's you plan?

    I do mine more or less the way Brad Pilon outlines it in his e-book. I stop eating for about 24 hours around 6 PM one day and wait until the next day at 6 PM to resume eating. The gist of it is that you don't gorge before or after fasting, because that ruins the whole point of it (to create a reasonable caloric deficit). Once you resume eating, you act like nothing ever happened and eat your normal portion sizes for a meal. Sometimes it's Mon Thu, sometimes it's Tue Fri, depends on my work week.


    You do the Pilon fast twice a week? That's hardcore.

    I'm a bit heavier than I'd like right now, so doing it twice a week gets to the acceptable level of caloric deficit according to his protocol. It's easier after you do it for a while.