PROGRESSIVE MUSLIMS - Imam Daayiee Abdullah welcomes gay Muslims to worship, marry

  • metta

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    Apr 18, 2013 5:17 PM GMT




    Imam Daayiee Abdullah welcomes gay Muslims to worship, marry


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/imam-daayiee-abdullah-welcomes-gay-muslims-to-worship-marry/2013/04/17/3ebcab3a-a5db-11e2-b029-8fb7e977ef71_story.html


    I think that there are enough threads already for bashing Muslims in this thread.




    I would greatly appreciate it if you could please let this one focus on Progressive Muslims.



    As with other religions, the Muslim religion is not going away. In fact, the Muslim religion is growing around the World. And as with any other religion, I think it is important to encourage the growth of positive aspects of it.
  • metta

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    Apr 18, 2013 5:27 PM GMT
    Muslims For Progressive Values

    http://mpvusa.org

    https://www.facebook.com/mpvusa

    https://plus.google.com/103450025013117796349/posts

    http://www.youtube.com/user/ProgressiveMuslims
  • metta

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    Apr 18, 2013 5:30 PM GMT

    I Am Gay And Muslim
    http://iamgayandmuslim.com/


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    Apr 18, 2013 5:38 PM GMT
    Thanks for the link, very good read.
  • metta

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    Apr 18, 2013 5:39 PM GMT
    Gay and Muslim?

  • metta

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    Apr 19, 2013 11:33 PM GMT
    Muslim students in Nashville have gathered for a vigil to show their respects for the victims of the Boston Marathon Bombing.

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  • Medjai

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    Apr 20, 2013 12:02 AM GMT
    Until Muslims show there is no longer a significant presence of hate in their community (maybe not here, but definitely overseas), I will continue to be wary, as their past history has not been one to garner trust. However, I am glad to see some progression towards the 21st century.
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    Apr 20, 2013 12:08 AM GMT
    Medjai saidUntil Muslims show there is no longer a significant presence of hate in their community (maybe not here, but definitely overseas), I will continue to be wary, as their past history has not been one to garner trust. However, I am glad to see some progression towards the 21st century.


    I agree. Personally I think that the anti Muslim movement has a very good reason to exist but put unfortunately that becomes an anti middle eastern thing which is wrong. The two are not synomous.
  • O5vx

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    Apr 20, 2013 12:30 AM GMT
    When it comes to the issue of whether or not there are progressive scholars in Islam, I think that indisputable that there are. In order to modernize a religion, there needs to be people in that religion willing to ask questions regarding the extent that reform can accommodate today's Islamic followers.

    It is outright laughable when people assume that progress can occur without the followers willing to accept the answers to those questions. I don't particularly believe that other Muslims are unwilling to recognize that homosexuality and Islam can co-exist, but more so there fear of being rejected by the very conservative scholars who are so rigid in their views to the extent that they are unwilling to have constructive conversation about the topic.

    I am always reminded time and time again how far Islam as come when it comes to modernization, but there are certain issues that are so contentious and this is one of them. More and more Muslims are realizing that soon or later the tide of history will live them behind, yet they still refuse to want to address several important issues.
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    Apr 20, 2013 12:32 AM GMT
    Does anyone know what percentage of American Muslims belong to these progressive groups?

    BTW, I agree it's a VERY good idea to encourage progressive Muslims!
  • Montague

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    Apr 20, 2013 12:34 AM GMT
    There are many Muslims open to things outside their views. They will let you know they don't agree with whatever it is but they won't shun you for it or physically attack you. People need to open their eyes to the real world and not believe all the hyped up crap they see on TV..
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    Apr 20, 2013 12:36 AM GMT
    Montague saidThere are many Muslims open to things outside their views. They will let you know they don't agree with whatever it is but they won't shun you for it or physically attack you. People need to open their eyes to the real world and not believe all the hyped up crap they see on TV..


    In this country they may not physically attack you. Threats of jail time tones down a lot of shit. Let's see how'd they react to you and I in a country where the laws are a lot more loose.
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    Apr 20, 2013 12:48 AM GMT
    Progressive Muslims are often threatened or shamed by less progressive ones... hence why so few Muslims are really willing to speak out against their brethren. Less progressive Muslims will often refer to them as not being "true Muslims" or call them "kuffar" (infidels.)
  • O5vx

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    Apr 20, 2013 12:52 AM GMT
    yourname2000 saidThey've got a looooooong way to go before I'm going to believe a word of it. icon_neutral.gif

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    See, you are exactly their target. Those trying to tarnish the religion know that people like yourself are very easy to manipulate----they know that you will dance to their tune, which was exactly their goal. No civilized Muslim will do such thing as you see here.
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    Apr 20, 2013 1:08 AM GMT
    yourname2000 said
    O5vx saidSee, you are exactly their target. Those trying to tarnish the religion know that people like yourself are very easy to manipulate----they know that you will dance to their tune, which was exactly their goal. No civilized Muslim will do such thing as you see here.

    Or you're hopelessly naive. Considering your inane posts, I'm going with that.


    Gays defending Islam.....

    Yet we had the conservative Christians with such a passion......

    Educate them Canadian, lol....
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    Apr 20, 2013 2:08 AM GMT
    Progressive Muslims need to STAND UP WITH A LOUD VOICE to denounce the jihadists lunatics.

    I have never been Islamophobic but I am becoming Islamo-exhausted.
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    Apr 20, 2013 2:13 AM GMT
    Can I just remind you all that the Boston Bombers where white guys.....
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    Apr 20, 2013 2:30 AM GMT
    yourname2000 said
    O5vx saidSee, you are exactly their target. Those trying to tarnish the religion know that people like yourself are very easy to manipulate----they know that you will dance to their tune, which was exactly their goal. No civilized Muslim will do such thing as you see here.

    Or you're hopelessly naive. Considering your inane posts, I'm going with that.


    Naaaah

    Anyone who tours around the middle east will see that most of them are not as preoccupied with America as we'd like to think. I just has an awesome time in Doha, and made tons of Muslim friends, and had some very frank conversations about where America and the followers of Islam have mishandled what should be a very prosperous relationship.

    Using shock images to say all muslims are rabidly anti American is like saying all of the white males in America are racists and showing pictures of the tea party.


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  • The_Guruburu

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    Apr 20, 2013 2:41 AM GMT
    Dekiruman said
    yourname2000 said
    O5vx saidSee, you are exactly their target. Those trying to tarnish the religion know that people like yourself are very easy to manipulate----they know that you will dance to their tune, which was exactly their goal. No civilized Muslim will do such thing as you see here.

    Or you're hopelessly naive. Considering your inane posts, I'm going with that.


    Naaaah

    Anyone who tours around the middle east will see that most of them are not as preoccupied with America as we'd like to think. I just has an awesome time in Doha, and made tons of Muslim friends, and had some very frank conversations about where America and the followers of Islam have mishandled what should be a very prosperous relationship.

    Using shock images to say all muslims are rabidly anti American is like saying all of the white males in America are racists and showing pictures of the tea party.


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    Pots keep calling kettles black like they don't know what a mirror is.
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    Apr 20, 2013 2:57 AM GMT
    yourname2000 said
    Dekiruman said
    yourname2000 said
    O5vx saidSee, you are exactly their target. Those trying to tarnish the religion know that people like yourself are very easy to manipulate----they know that you will dance to their tune, which was exactly their goal. No civilized Muslim will do such thing as you see here.

    Or you're hopelessly naive. Considering your inane posts, I'm going with that.


    Naaaah

    Anyone who tours around the middle east will see that most of them are not as preoccupied with America as we'd like to think. I just has an awesome time in Doha, and made tons of Muslim friends, and had some very frank conversations about where America and the followers of Islam have mishandled what should be a very prosperous relationship.

    Using shock images to say all muslims are rabidly anti American is like saying all of the white males in America are racists and showing pictures of the tea party.


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  • O5vx

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    Apr 20, 2013 2:57 AM GMT
    blazerblue saidProgressive Muslims need to STAND UP WITH A LOUD VOICE to denounce the jihadists lunatics.

    I have never been Islamophobic but I am becoming Islamo-exhausted.


    I think they are doing it more than it is been reported. I don't honestly see any civilized----even those so called extremely conservative Muslims do condemn jihad. The only real person that will tell you otherwise are those profiting from it.
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    Apr 20, 2013 3:24 AM GMT
    liberal ones existed years ago in iraq & whole mid-east . true & still do but the "real" ones , : the governments , clerics , jihadis , mutaween (religious police ) ,extremists , all crush such people , al qaeeda alone has murdered almost every one who opposed them including the Sunni muslim "good" cleric , not to mention how many chaldeon christians & assyrian christians , fear of them is the reason no one dares to challenge radical muslim as its seen as anti islamic

    association with lgbt organization is a death penalty in Iran & Saudi still.
    wonder no one protests killing of gays there coz "its anti islamic & those u oppose islam , are beheaded"

    good to see liberal muslims ,maybe they should abandon islam as a sign of liberty instead its a poison
    i remember when i was 7 years old , & was forced to read quran on the edge of knife by my tutor ,
    still god bless these people & give them a heart
  • metta

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    Apr 20, 2013 3:26 AM GMT
    Gosh, I made a simple request and you guys could not do it. Some of you have just repeated what you have already said in other Muslim posts.
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    Apr 20, 2013 3:27 AM GMT
    Incendiary saidProgressive Muslims are often threatened or shamed by less progressive ones... hence why so few Muslims are really willing to speak out against their brethren. Less progressive Muslims will often refer to them as not being "true Muslims" or call them "kuffar" (infidels.)


    its Kaffir !
  • O5vx

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    Apr 20, 2013 3:33 AM GMT
    metta8 saidGosh, I made a simple request and you guys could not do it. Some of you have just repeated what you have already said in other Muslim posts.


    Here I am laughing so hard to the thought of thaticon_smile.gif