What is up with the media/liberal obsession wanting to make terrorists "white" and "right wing"?

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    Apr 20, 2013 12:22 AM GMT
    Just liberal bias? Here's David Sirota: "Let’s hope the Boston Marathon bomber is a white American"
    http://www.salon.com/2013/04/16/lets_hope_the_boston_marathon_bomber_is_a_white_american/

    A lot more examples here:
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323309604578432832764057060.html

    And then not that he's part of the liberal media but just someone liberals here seem to highly respect, TigerTim who, to his credit acknowledges "The irrational part of me is utterly convinced that this is the work of right wing nut cases (like Incendiary?) — the rational part of me knows that misinformation will abound until sometime after and that we mustn't rush to conclusions."
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/3140867?forumpage=3

    Especially when so many of them seem to be liberals...

    Jared Lee Loughner (the guy who shot former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords) turned out to be a Marxist, Hitler-loving, atheist

    The guy who they seem to be hunting down a few minutes away from me at the moment turns out to have been a supporter of Obama
    http://www.bob-owens.com/twitter-feed-suggests-boston-marathon-terrorist-was-an-obama-supporter.html

    The guy who has been sending Ricin to Obama and others turns out to have been one of his supporters:
    http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/04/18/alleged-ricin-terrorist-is-a-democrat/

    And then there's the Tea Party... let's compare them to Occupy...

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    Apr 20, 2013 1:21 AM GMT
    agree...no one wants to discuss this but the evidence is there...must be some sort of liberal white mans guilt
  • conservativej...

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    Apr 20, 2013 3:13 PM GMT
    Race has always been the prime weapon used by liberals. That will not change until they disappear from this earth.

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    Apr 20, 2013 3:31 PM GMT
    Perhaps it stems from the knowledge that, if such an attack is carried out by a 'white' 'Christian' person, there will be no random reprisal attacks on 'white' or 'Christian' people.
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    Apr 20, 2013 4:18 PM GMT
    I agree with David Sarota and I was hoping the bomber would be white. If he were white it would be a lone-wolf who was mentally unstable. Since the bombers were of Islam faith it will be looked at entirely different and once again Americans will blame an entire group of people. Typical Double Standard. I just wish we would blame individual people for actions and not stereotype Muslims as these evil terrorists.

    Your examples are grasping at straws. None of them are conclusive that they were liberal or Obama supporters. I mean 2 of the 3 committed acts were against a Democrat that they supposedly voted for, maybe you didn't think about the irony in that, hmmmm....

    The media shouldn't have stereotyped the bombers as radical right wingers but at least they didn't wrongly accuse a specific person as the New York Post did.

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    Apr 20, 2013 4:34 PM GMT
    msuNtx saidI agree with David Sarota and I was hoping the bomber would be white. If he were white it would be a lone-wolf who was mentally unstable. Since the bombers were of Islam faith it will be looked at entirely different and once again Americans will blame an entire group of people. Typical Double Standard. I just wish we would blame individual people for actions and not stereotype Muslims as these evil terrorists.

    Your examples are grasping at straws. None of them are conclusive that they were liberal or Obama supporters. I mean 2 of the 3 committed acts were against a Democrat that they supposedly voted for, maybe you didn't think about the irony in that, hmmmm....

    The media shouldn't have stereotyped the bombers as radical right wingers but at least they didn't wrongly accuse a specific person as the New York Post did.



    Grasping at straws? If it were a "tea partier", do you doubt that the media would make a pretty big deal about it? Instead in this case, you have the odd vilification (and maybe this was more my impression before hand) of the media and speculation that it was because of tax day, and then after it was discovered that these two were not "right wingers" you have press reports talking about their heart of gold and doing hand wringing.

    Conclusively liberal or Obama supporters? No, they were - just going by what they wrote. I don't consider it an indictment of Obama because of it though - whereas I'm not sure that's the case you would feel the same if it were the other way around (given the vilification of Sarah Palin for instance for the supposed violent language she used prior to Giffords' shooting).
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    Apr 20, 2013 5:08 PM GMT
    Did you know that liberals drink BABY GOAT BLOOD!!!!! Then they grab a pile of babies AND EAT THEM!! ! ! !! !!!!! !!!

    THEY MUST BE STOPPED!!!!!!!!!! !!!! !! ! !!!!! !!
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    Apr 20, 2013 10:05 PM GMT
    Unexpectedly honest

    "Bill Maher: Comparing violence of Islam to Christianity ‘liberal bullsh*t’
    http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/20/bill-maher-violence-islam-christianity-liberal-bullshit/

    Maher entertained UC-San Bernardino professor Brian Levin, director of the Center for Study of Hate and Extremism, who maintained that despite the events in recent days, religious extremism isn’t only a product of Islam.

    But Maher took issue with that claim, calling it “liberal bullshit” and said there was no comparison.

    “You know what, yeah, yeah,” Maher said. “You know what — that’s liberal bullshit right there … they’re not as dangerous. I mean there’s only one faith, for example, that kills you or wants to kill you if you draw a bad cartoon of the prophet. There’s only one faith that kills you or wants to kill you if you renounce the faith. An ex-Muslim is a very dangerous thing. Talk to Salman Rushdie after the show about Christian versus Islam. So you know, I’m just saying let’s keep it real.”

    Levin referenced outspoken Islam critic Pamela Geller as an example to refute Maher’s claim. But, Maher argued there was no comparison and denied he was Islamophobic.

    “I am not an Islamophobe,” Maher replied. “I am a truth lover. All religious are not alike. As many people have pointed out — ‘The Book of Mormon,’ did you see the show? … OK, can you imagine if they did ‘The Book of Islam?’ Could they do that? There’s only one religion that threatens violence and carries it out for things like that. Could they do “The Book of Islam” on Broadway?”

    Levin said “possibly so,” to which Maher seem dismiss his entire argument going forward.

    “You’re wrong about that and you’re wrong about your facts,” Maher said. “Now, obviously, most Muslim people are not terrorists. But ask most Muslim people in the world, if you insult the prophet, do you have what’s coming to you? It’s more than just a fringe element.”

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    Apr 20, 2013 10:20 PM GMT
    conservativejock saidRace has always been the prime weapon used by liberals conservatives. That will not change until they disappear from this earth.

    Corrected. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Apr 20, 2013 10:22 PM GMT
    ...AND don't forget that all pedophiles are gay so we should start proclaiming death to all gays!
  • Lincsbear

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    Apr 20, 2013 10:48 PM GMT
    Or when white/christian/fascist terrorism happens, the media likes to talk about the clinical 'insanity' of the isolated individual involved.

    See, for example, Anders Brevick in Norway.
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    Apr 20, 2013 10:56 PM GMT
    Lincsbear saidOr when white/christian/fascist terrorism happens, the media likes to talk about the clinical 'insanity' of the isolated individual involved.

    See, for example, Anders Brevick in Norway.

    Or Timothy McVeigh in the US. An isolated case, not representative of White Supremacist goals and the Right Wing at all. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Apr 20, 2013 10:57 PM GMT
    Lincsbear saidOr when white/christian/fascist terrorism happens, the media likes to talk about the clinical 'insanity' of the isolated individual involved.

    See, for example, Anders Brevick in Norway.
    Has that happened often?
  • musclmed

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    Apr 21, 2013 12:35 AM GMT
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    Apr 21, 2013 1:57 AM GMT
    topathlete said
    msuNtx saidI agree with David Sarota and I was hoping the bomber would be white.

    Look in the mirror and you will see a racist or a race baiter. All your justifications are total BS.

    I actually think it id despicable to use a tragedy and hoping the facts behind it benefit a political agenda.

    So lets play Sarotas game. It wasnt a right wing KKK group. So he was wrong and now his political agenda should be shunned.

    People are not even out of the hospital and we have to endure his liberal pablum
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    Apr 21, 2013 1:23 PM GMT
    The majority of internal terrorist attacks in the US have been committed by white Christians.

    Also, since 9/11 the media and the right-wing have tried to position "terrorism" as something that only Muslims orchestrate against Americans.

    Most recently, NPR (that bastion of liberalism) said that the Boston bombing was the first terrorist attack on US soil since 9/11 ignoring Wade Michael Page's attack on the Sikh template last year.

    The murder of George Tiller by Scott Roeder in 2009.

    There have been more than 10 attacks on women's healthcare clinics by White Christians since 9/11.

    All of that is terrorism in the purest sense of being violence committee with a political agenda and yet it's not discussed as such.
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    Apr 21, 2013 1:40 PM GMT
    If it turns out the Boston pair were acting alone, given they were both long-term US residents (one with US citizenship), that would make this a case of domestic terrorism/crime, no different to the Oklahoma bombing, other than in motive and scale.
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    Apr 21, 2013 5:14 PM GMT
    Christian73 saidThe majority of internal terrorist attacks in the US have been committed by white Christians.

    Also, since 9/11 the media and the right-wing have tried to position "terrorism" as something that only Muslims orchestrate against Americans.

    Most recently, NPR (that bastion of liberalism) said that the Boston bombing was the first terrorist attack on US soil since 9/11 ignoring Wade Michael Page's attack on the Sikh template last year.

    The murder of George Tiller by Scott Roeder in 2009.

    There have been more than 10 attacks on women's healthcare clinics by White Christians since 9/11.

    All of that is terrorism in the purest sense of being violence committee with a political agenda and yet it's not discussed as such.


    Thank you. Both "sides" like to engage in selective memory, but so long as white Christian men are the majority/in power and Muslim men are not, the discourse on terrorism will remain inaccurately skewed towards brown.
  • musclmed

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    Apr 21, 2013 5:34 PM GMT
    I cannot think of 1 good reason why being vigilant against jihad-ism and its terrorist in the United States is a bad thing.

    Even if in the past and present other groups have practiced terror it does not serve to dilute the scope and magnitude of what happened in Boston.

    Its funny how the last few tragedies that have happened many have almost prayed for some white christian to be responsible.

    In the UK, there were 3-4 decades of IRA terrorists, should they "hand waive " and say that the London bombers were just a minority terror attack. I think they would laugh at that assertion.

    Is anyone saying its nothing to worry about? This is some weird aberration ?

    Make that argument, I would like to hear it.
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    Apr 21, 2013 5:47 PM GMT
    musclmed said
    Even if in the past and present other groups have practiced terror it does not serve to dilute the scope and magnitude of what happened in Boston.


    No one is trying to dilute anything, but if you want to talk magnitude, the Oklahoma bombers killed 168 people and injured 680. The bombers were influenced by their service in the US Army, 'survivalists' and the anti-gun-control lobby, yet (quite rightly) no one so much as hinted those organisations might have 'inspired' the bombings. If you cannot see the double standards at work here, you are simply kidding yourself.
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    Apr 21, 2013 5:58 PM GMT
    topathlete said
    Ex_Mil8 said
    musclmed said
    Even if in the past and present other groups have practiced terror it does not serve to dilute the scope and magnitude of what happened in Boston.

    No one is trying to dilute anything, but if you want to talk magnitude, the Oklahoma bombers killed 168 people and injured 680. The bombers were influenced by their service in the US Army, 'survivalists' and the anti-gun-control lobby, yet (quite rightly) no one so much as hinted those organisations might have 'inspired' the bombings. If you cannot see the double standards at work here, you are simply kidding yourself.


    You can talk about double standards all you want and among some that is probably true. The FBI has gone against terrorists of all political stripes (google FBI Waco). That does not mitigate the need to deal with the Islamic extremist goals to kill innocent people.


    For some the topic of the day seems to be the prejudice against Islam . I agree it is a problem. The only way that is going to be fixed is by actions and time.

    When the Gabby Giffords shooting happened we heard this whole weaved story that turned out to be false. In the minds of the people promoting , they believe that it fit some sort of pattern . It seems the same set of individuals then come back and criticize others for the same sort of pattern recognition.
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    Apr 21, 2013 6:09 PM GMT
    http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/459580/20130421/boston-bombings-tamerlan-dzhokhar-tsarnaev-sleeper-cell.htm

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/boston-bombers-fbi-hunting-12-strong-1844844#.UXM54Yqm6hA.twitter

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    Apr 21, 2013 7:47 PM GMT
    yourname2000 said
    No, according to the armchair apologists, the twelve were part of a quilting group, and that's all. Totally innocent.


    I take it your 'expertise' on all things Islamic isn't coming from an armchair in Van and you're really 'doing a Riddler' from downtown Mecca.
  • musclmed

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    Apr 21, 2013 9:22 PM GMT
    Meanwhile .... back at the Ranch.


    2 friends of the accused bomber who is alive in the ICU are being deported on immigration violations.

    There deportation has apparently nothing to do with the bombing.

    1 had an interesting vanity plate TERRORISTA #1

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    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/2-pals-accused-boston-bomber-custody-article-1.1323004

    Sort of ballsy to overstay a visa and drive around with a fairly insensitive vanity plate.

  • musclmed

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    Apr 21, 2013 9:35 PM GMT
    one of the 3 individuals in the apartment was a female. She was shuttled to a car with diplomatic plates according to the article.

    I wonder what nation sends its diplomats ( children) to go to school and drive around flaunting terrorism.