Apr 20, 2013 2:46 PM GMT
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im Arabian origined Iraqi Protestant of lakhmid tribe
in short Christian
JustTheTip saidNichiren Diashonin Buddhist
yourname2000 saidHe_Man said"Calling atheism a faith is like calling bald a hair color."
Not sure about that....zero is still a number, and black is still a colour. If someone asks "what faith are you?" "Atheist" seems valid to me.
He_Man said
Uhm... Atheism has nothing to do with faith? Whenever I shave my head bald, I am not curious as to whether I still have hair or not. The lack of hair doesn't make me say, "hey, you like my new hairdo?" because I don't have a hairdo to begin with.
"Calling atheism a faith is like calling bald a hair color."
I'm a freethinker and a scientific skeptic. The closest I'll get to some kind of poetically-induced faith is with scientific pantheism, but then you may as well just call yourself an atheist.
kevmoran saidHe_Man said
Uhm... Atheism has nothing to do with faith? Whenever I shave my head bald, I am not curious as to whether I still have hair or not. The lack of hair doesn't make me say, "hey, you like my new hairdo?" because I don't have a hairdo to begin with.
"Calling atheism a faith is like calling bald a hair color."
I'm a freethinker and a scientific skeptic. The closest I'll get to some kind of poetically-induced faith is with scientific pantheism, but then you may as well just call yourself an atheist.
But if I asked someone what their hair color was, bald would be an acceptable answer.
He_Man said
BALD is NOT a color, so, i'm sorry, how the hell can you say that being bald is "an acceptable answer" to being asked "what their hair color was"?
BALD =/= Color
You could have said, "if i asked someone what their hair [style] was, bald would be an acceptable answer," but again, bald is not a color.
I can see that for many of you logic and mathematics weren't your strongest subjects in school?
kevmoran saidHe_Man said
BALD is NOT a color, so, i'm sorry, how the hell can you say that being bald is "an acceptable answer" to being asked "what their hair color was"?
BALD =/= Color
You could have said, "if i asked someone what their hair [style] was, bald would be an acceptable answer," but again, bald is not a color.
I can see that for many of you logic and mathematics weren't your strongest subjects in school?
Then what should they say?
I agree bald is not a color, but that doesn't mean it's not an answer! If I asked you what car you drive, you could say "I don't have a car". What else would you do, just stare blankly at me in silence?
He_Man saidYou are creating a straw man argument. In the two sentences that you illustrated above, the direct object in both is a "car." "What car do you drive?" and "I don't have a car" Car = Car You have an affirmative statement followed by a negative statement, which then balances out. We were originally talking about analogies: "Calling atheism a faith is like calling bald a hair color." The analogy is that "atheism" is to a faith as "bald" is to a hair color. Atheism isn't a faith-based belief system, just as being bald is NOT a hair color. It's nothing like your "car" question, thus a straw man.
I don't believe in faeries, so by that logic, I have "faith" in faeries?
I don't believe in unicorns, so by that logic, I have "faith" in unicorns?
I don't believe in vampires, so by that logic, I have "faith" in vampires?
I don't believe in magic, so by that logic, I have "faith" in magic?
Ad infinitum....
kevmoran saidHe_Man said
And what should I say if someone asks what my faith is if Atheism isn't an acceptable answer?
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