VOTER FRAUD: Be Aware and Protect Your Vote !!!

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    Oct 20, 2008 8:24 AM GMT
    Here are two examples of Voter Fraud or Voter Tampering by the Republican Party:

    http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-fraud20-2008oct20,0,3842357.story

    http://wvgazette.com/News/200810180251

    PLEASE pass the word: make sure that you confirm that your voting selections are valid/accepted by the voting machine. Take a photo w/ your camera phone if you have to!

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    Oct 20, 2008 9:16 AM GMT
    ACORN
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    Oct 20, 2008 9:46 AM GMT
    "dozens of voters said they were duped into registering as Republicans by people employed by YPM. The voters said YPM workers tricked them by saying they were signing a petition to toughen penalties against child molesters.

    The firm was paid $7 to $12 for every Californian it registered as a member of the GOP"

    Using child molestation to trick people into registering as repugs. Truly repugnant.
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    Oct 20, 2008 10:00 AM GMT
    ACORN
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    Oct 20, 2008 10:03 AM GMT
    GOP
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    Oct 20, 2008 10:07 AM GMT
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    Oct 20, 2008 10:34 AM GMT
    The real problem isn't ACORN and it isn't dead people trying to vote

    It's the republican party trying to purge voter rolls
    and they are doing it in many swing States like Ohio and Florida

    Check your voter registration
    try to vote early so you don't get to the polls and find out that you have been challenged because you moved
    or because you name is the same as some felon in the hoosegow
    You can check here at this website

    www.canivote.org
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    Oct 20, 2008 11:12 AM GMT
    No, not ACORN and the FBI investigations and how the Dallas Cowboys are all registered in New Mexico.

    No........

    Not that ACORN is under investigation in 35 states for registering Democrats in record numbers.


    No....

    Voter fraud?

    Naw......

    They only did it for a kick, a hoot......
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    Oct 20, 2008 12:08 PM GMT
    Triggerman saidNo, not ACORN and the FBI investigations and how the Dallas Cowboys are all registered in New Mexico.

    No........

    Not that ACORN is under investigation in 35 states for registering Democrats in record numbers.


    No....

    Voter fraud?

    Naw......

    They only did it for a kick, a hoot......


    How is it Voter Fraud? If anything, Acorn is being defrauded by people making up false registration cards. These people's motivation in making up false cards seems to be money as they were paid by Acorn for their work. What is Acorn's motivation? It is almost impossible for these false cards to result in any votes so even if they were trying to affect the vote, this has little chance of achieving that.

    I think the reason this issue is gaining such a high profile is fairly obvious:

    1. Acorn helps younger and disenfranchised people to vote. Many of those would probably lean Democratic and so anything the Republicans can do to disqualify them would be advantageous.

    2. The Mccain Campaign is not interested in issues (mainly because the big issue, the economy, is currently working against them) and so they have adopted a negative "smear the opponent" campaign. Barack Obama has ties to Acorn and so making Acorn appear "evil" in some way taints him.

    3. It is worth remember that while Acorn is being investigated, as they should be, they have not yet been found guilty of anything at all. Hopefully, we all understand that being accused of something does not make you guilty of it.

    At some point, if you want to get at the truth, you have to look beyong the soundbites and the spin and ask yourself "who benefits?". The answers come fairly easily when you do that.
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    Oct 20, 2008 12:40 PM GMT
    Yes, that is why the FBI is investigating ACORN for voter fraud.

    FBI launches silly investigations because they have nothing better to do.

    ACORN is all about helping young voters and potential young homeowners.

    OK....
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    Oct 20, 2008 12:44 PM GMT
    Let me say, ACORN is innocent of any wrong doing until they are proven guilty. I am not saying they did anything wrong or illegal. All I said is that they are under investigation.
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    Oct 20, 2008 12:48 PM GMT
    Who benefits from signing up hundreds of thousands of fake voters? Mostly Democrats? Shucks, I do not no. But like I said, ACORN is innocent till proven guilty.
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    Oct 20, 2008 1:07 PM GMT
    Triggerman saidWho benefits from signing up hundreds of thousands of fake voters? Mostly Democrats? Shucks, I do not no. But like I said, ACORN is innocent till proven guilty.


    How does registering thousands of fake voters benefit democrats? I can only repeat the fact that fake registrations does not result in votes for anyone unless they can in someway be converted into real people who then vote. I am not sure how this can happen with the current system, unless of course, the deceased voter or Mickey Mouse turns up and proves their identity - then they could vote.

    For what little it's worth, if the dead do start dragging themselves out of graves to vote, i figure you should just let them icon_smile.gif
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    Oct 20, 2008 1:27 PM GMT
    Or be eaten.
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    Oct 20, 2008 1:34 PM GMT
    Zoot-

    When a group like ACORN gets hundreds of millions of dollars in taxpayer money, which they have, I assume there is a reason. No one does that work for free. Now maybe it was not to affect a vote. Maybe it was just a numbers game so that they will continue to get funding. So that they can show numbers, and show that they are relevant. So they signed up hundreds of thousands of voters, not to change an election, but just to keep the funding flowing and so that they can say, "Look at all we are doing!".

    Either way, I do not care. My tax money and yours should not be wasted on groups like this. For whatever the reason. Why do I pay money in taxes every week for ACORN? Why do you? Do not volunteer groups do this? Can't I donate to the volunteer groups that do this if I so chose?
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    Oct 20, 2008 1:40 PM GMT
    TriggermanZoot-

    When a group like ACORN gets hundreds of millions of dollars in taxpayer money, which they have, I assume there is a reason. No one does that work for free. Now maybe it was not to affect a vote. Maybe it was just a numbers game so that they will continue to get funding. So that they can show numbers, and show that they are relevant. So they signed up hundreds of thousands of voters, not to change an election, but just to keep the funding flowing and so that they can say, "Look at all we are doing!".

    Either way, I do not care. My tax money and yours should not be wasted on groups like this. For whatever the reason. Why do I pay money in taxes every week for ACORN? Why do you? Do not volunteer groups do this? Can't I donate to the volunteer groups that do this if I so chose?


    So, then, is the ACORN issue one of voter fraud or is it over their abuse of your tax money? Which one don't you care about?
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    Oct 20, 2008 1:42 PM GMT
    Everyone misses the point-

    Why do taxpayers have to pay for groups like ACORN? With people on the Board making hundreds of thousands of dollars? To do what?

    When did that become the job of the government? To pay hundreds of thousands and millions of dollars to groups to, supposedly, get people to register to vote?

    How did it hurt me?

    Well, obviously, some people were paid from Federal funds to sign up fake voters. Paid by the hour. To commit fraud. Paid by the hour.

    My tax money. Your tax money. But who cares?
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    Oct 20, 2008 1:45 PM GMT
    TriggermanEveryone misses the point


    That is incorrect. It is you who is missing the point as the subject of this thread is "VOTER FRAUD". You raised the issue of ACORN, first making it one of voter fraud, and then trying to make it one of tax funding abuse.



    "ACORN is a non-profit, non-partisan social justice organization with national headquarters in New York, New Orleans and Washington, D.C. "
    www.acorn.org

    Incidentally, ACORN is not tax funded. Have they been raiding your bank account, personally?
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    Oct 20, 2008 1:46 PM GMT
    Triggerman saidZoot-

    When a group like ACORN gets hundreds of millions of dollars in taxpayer money, which they have, I assume there is a reason. No one does that work for free. Now maybe it was not to affect a vote. Maybe it was just a numbers game so that they will continue to get funding. So that they can show numbers, and show that they are relevant. So they signed up hundreds of thousands of voters, not to change an election, but just to keep the funding flowing and so that they can say, "Look at all we are doing!".

    Either way, I do not care. My tax money and yours should not be wasted on groups like this. For whatever the reason. Why do I pay money in taxes every week for ACORN? Why do you? Do not volunteer groups do this? Can't I donate to the volunteer groups that do this if I so chose?


    Fair point with regard to Taxes. AFAIK, however, Acorn receives no federal funding for Voter Registration. I guess they could be trying to "keep the funding flowing" from those other organisations that do assist them with this. They might have undermined themselves, however, in that it was Acorn that reported the majority of false ballots. I understand that they are legally bound to turn over all registrations, even the false ones, so that they cannot suppress potential votes.
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    Oct 20, 2008 1:48 PM GMT
    The media hasn't been reporting the whole story about ACORN:

    "We are required by law to turn in all forms, but instead of just turning them in and figuring that it is the responsibility of the board of elections to figure out which are valid, we spend millions of dollars verifying that forms are valid, and then separate out those that are suspicious."

    [url]http://www.acorn.org/index.php?id=12439&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=22383&tx_ttnews%5BbackPid%5D=12340&cHash=ef14f35f55[/url]

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    Oct 20, 2008 1:52 PM GMT
    Whether it is voter fraud, which it is since government officials have to spend countless hours undoing and figuring out who is valid and who isn't and those government officials are paid for those hours spent....

    or if it is just another Program that costs the tax payers tons of money and puts money in the pocket of scam artists, like it apparently does...

    Is that what we pay taxes for?

    I did not need ACORN to learn how to sign up and vote.

    If you did, sorry for you.
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    Oct 20, 2008 1:57 PM GMT
    If ACORN gets no, none, no public money, I will take back everything I said. I will be the first to admit that I was wrong. If anyone can show me that they do not receive a penny of public funding, I will be man enough to say that I was completely wrong.

    My word as a man.

    JW
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    Oct 20, 2008 1:59 PM GMT
    Talking about vote fraud, how about the whole population of Mexico?

    http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/obama-wants-licenses-illegal-immigrants

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    Oct 20, 2008 2:02 PM GMT
    Regardless of how much money is spent by the Federal Government going through the fake ballots that ACORN turns in, which I assume is huge, I stand by what I said earlier.

    If ACORN receives NO tax money, I will admit that I was wrong. I make statements, and I stand by them.

    JW
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    Oct 20, 2008 2:05 PM GMT
    It's interesting that in one thread you complained that you were being asked to prove a negative and here you are asking people to prove a negative.

    You make statements and you stand by them, but, the way you've been dancing from issue to issue in this thread makes me think you'd rather just dance around an issue than to actually contemplate one. You're firing them like a machine gun, but you're firing blanks.