Driver's Licenses

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    Oct 20, 2008 12:36 PM GMT
    One of the hot button issues from the primaries was the issue of making US Driver's Licenses available to illegal aliens. This issue was key in the recall of Governor Gray Davis of California, and Hillary Clinton backed down from supporting Governor Spitzer on the issue.

    Obama and most Congressional Democrats support issuing driver's licenses to illegal aliens.

    A Driver's License is the primary means of identification here in the US and is required at polls to vote to prove citizenship.

    Allowing illegal aliens to have US driver's licenses is a "Pandora's Box" of potential problems for the country. The most important being a lock on American government by the Democratic party and an end to the two party system. If Democrats could claim the entire population of Mexico as constituents the Democrats would never lose a future election.

    If this occurs, the voting block of Mexican citizens would be able to have the political power to reclaim the western states like California, Arizona, Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico, and possibly Texas. This can't be good for the US or the constituents of those states.

    Mexico is embroiled in a bitter civil war over narcotics. If the Narco-Terrorists win, they will have the control to influence American elections if the Obama/Congressional Democrats scheme is allowed to progress. Even without the Narco-Terrorists running Mexico, it isn't a the kind of model government Americans are used to.

    The only way to prevent such voter fraud is to issue National IDs. This comes out of Pandora's Box in the form of Big Brother control. Obama/Biden and Congressional Democrats would likely support only the Driver's Licenses since they would get a ton of votes from that block.

    If Atzlan separatists get such political power we could see a Balkan's style civil war right here in the US.

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/01/28/MNH1UL57Q.DTL

    http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/obama-wants-licenses-illegal-immigrants




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    Oct 20, 2008 2:47 PM GMT
    US policy on driver's licenses will lead to Mexican terrorists having influence over US elections? It may take me a few days to sort that one out.

    But oddly, on the basic issue you first raised, of issuing driver's licenses to illegal aliens, I would deny illegals that privilege. Not because of any vast political conspiracies, but simply because someone who is by definition illegally here should not be given a legal instrument, that implies legal status.

    I know there are some economic and hardship reasons cited for issuing the licenses, and that some drive without a license anyway, but I fear that is the aliens problem, not mine. A license would be yet one more incentive to cross into the US illegally.

    I don't want them to cross over, and I want them to have plenty of reasons to return where they came from. Letting them drive around and hold a job here is not the way to do that.

    And BTW, driver's licenses are issued by the states, not the Federal government. I know there has been some talk about a national license, part of the national ID concept. But mostly the Feds have been merely trying to get the states to adopt uniform license cards, as a national security matter.
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    Oct 20, 2008 2:50 PM GMT
    Here I thought you needed to be a citizen to vote. Apparently all a person needs is a drivers license!

    And God forbid we keep track of all these illegal immigrants by registering them into the system as opposed to having them go under the radar.
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    Oct 20, 2008 3:21 PM GMT
    dowal saidHere I thought you needed to be a citizen to vote. Apparently all a person needs is a drivers license!

    And God forbid we keep track of all these illegal immigrants by registering them into the system as opposed to having them go under the radar.


    You raise an interesting dilemma. If they are "tracked" by being issued something like a driver's license, then what are they still doing on this side of the border, if they are here illegally in the first place? They need to be "tracked" right back to the border.

    Or have they lost their illegal status with the license? Sort of a state-issued semi-green card.

    Seems to me illegal means illegal, for all purposes.

    Most states require some sort of voter pre-registration. That's the step where your citizenship & address are screened, and ineligibles such as convicted felons are prevented from voting.

    Here in Florida, you must present your voter card along with your driver's license in order to vote. Some states just require the license, or other approved form of ID, to verify your identity against lists of registered voters at the polling place. And you must know which poling station to attend, because your name will only appear there, the only location at which you can vote.
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    Oct 20, 2008 3:48 PM GMT
    If the Democrats control all three branches of government they can do anything they want, like for instance, allow election fraud with illegal aliens. They wouldn't need to rely on unions and welfare queens anymore.

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    Oct 20, 2008 4:57 PM GMT
    Your slam at unions is inflammatory enough, but when you accuse queens of being on welfare, that's going too far. They earn every penny, one tip at a time.

    On a serious note, your fear-mongering about Democrats controlling the US Supreme Court is a bit far-fetched. Most of the Justices most likely to leave next are liberal, so liberal replacements wouldn't change the balance of the Court.

    Rather, it's a Republican Administration that would have the opportunity to significantly alter the balance from its current one, replacing liberals with conservatives.