"More guns and gay marriage: When Americans aren't sure what to do about something, they give the tie to freedom."

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    Apr 23, 2013 2:52 AM GMT
    Interesting perspective.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/04/22/gay-marriage-gun-control-column/2100971/
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    Apr 23, 2013 2:11 PM GMT


    " Sure, gay people didn't used to be able to marry," Great grammar. icon_lol.gif

    ....and they still can't (except in certain States) and the Republican Party has just reaffirmed it stance against marriage for gays.

    http://swampland.time.com/2013/04/12/republican-party-says-no-to-same-sex-marriage/
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    Apr 23, 2013 2:59 PM GMT
    I like these two sentences from the article:

    "Social-conservatives have fought a long rearguard action against gay marriage, but the thing about rearguard actions is, you mount them when you're retreating."

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  • wcubrad23

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    Apr 23, 2013 5:07 PM GMT
    It is simply about being pro-freedom. You can't pick and choose and be for same sex marriage, but then for restricting 2nd Amendment rights.
  • Montague

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    Apr 23, 2013 5:10 PM GMT
    What's wrong with more guns? Someday I hope to own my very own m777 howitzer cannon. icon_smile.gif
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    Apr 23, 2013 5:17 PM GMT
    I'd like my very own tactical nuke, please.
  • Montague

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    Apr 23, 2013 7:32 PM GMT
    rickmenbashi saidI'd like my very own tactical nuke, please.


    If you can't fit it in a honda coupe you can't have it!
  • pharmstudent

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    Apr 23, 2013 9:28 PM GMT
    You can't preach the constitution is the supreme law of the land, and wonder why people over react when opposing gun control. I personally believe the federal gov't and institutions should fear their citizens not the other way around. I don't own a gun but I understand the right to bear arm, we should concentrate more on mental health.
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    Apr 23, 2013 9:37 PM GMT
    rickmenbashi saidI'd like my very own tactical nuke, please.


    Just keep in mind that the joke above reflects a slippery slope argument used against the 2nd amendment that is in the same fashion as saying that gay marriage will create polygamy, man on animal unions, and all the other nonsense we've heard up til now. icon_rolleyes.gif
  • andreduce

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    Apr 24, 2013 2:19 AM GMT
    Zinc said
    rickmenbashi saidI'd like my very own tactical nuke, please.


    Just keep in mind that the joke above reflects a slippery slope argument used against the 2nd amendment that is in the same fashion as saying that gay marriage will create polygamy, man on animal unions, and all the other nonsense we've heard up til now. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Legit point.
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    Apr 24, 2013 3:09 AM GMT
    andreduce said
    Zinc said
    rickmenbashi saidI'd like my very own tactical nuke, please.


    Just keep in mind that the joke above reflects a slippery slope argument used against the 2nd amendment that is in the same fashion as saying that gay marriage will create polygamy, man on animal unions, and all the other nonsense we've heard up til now. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Legit point.


    I for one do not believe that the gay marriage debate and gun control are at all equivalent. The only equivalence I see is that they are both departures from America's original design. No one could fathom gun control when the constitution was written, because America was a rural country and the citizens had legitimate fears about Native Americans and wildlife, I am not equating the two in any manner whatsoever. Furthermore, there was no such thing as police, or massive concentrated cities, or assault rifles. Of the same accord, no one could fathom gay marriage. However, since 1787, much has changed about America. As such, we cannot cling to the constitution, especially the 2nd Amendment as the be all end all.

    As Thomas Jefferson so eloquently stated,

    "I am not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and constitutions, but laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors."