As Bush library opening puts his presidency back in the spotlight, his approval rating is up

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    Apr 23, 2013 3:24 PM GMT
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bush-library-opening-puts-his-presidency-back-in-the-spotlight/2013/04/22/bb7e6b9c-ab65-11e2-a8b9-2a63d75b5459_story.html?hpid=z1
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    Apr 23, 2013 3:46 PM GMT
    which means it's time for

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    Apr 23, 2013 3:47 PM GMT
    http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/go-ahead-admit-it-george-w-bush-is-a-good-man-20130422
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    Apr 23, 2013 5:04 PM GMT
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/22/us-usa-presidents-idUSBRE93L1AM20130422

    As George W. Bush library opens, a rare meeting of presidents and rivals


    (Reuters) - Their rivalries have helped to define American politics for more than a quarter-century.

    And sometimes the complex relationships among the only five people alive who know what it's like to be president of the United States have seemed to be straight out of a soap opera. They have called each other names and blamed one another for the nation's problems.

    But when they have a rare meeting in Dallas on Thursday for the opening of former president George W. Bush's library and museum, there will be smiles for the cameras and friendly chatter by President Barack Obama and former presidents Bush, Bill Clinton, George H.W. Bush and Jimmy Carter.

    It will be the first time they have all been together since January 2009, when they met in Washington a few days before George W. Bush left office and Obama was sworn in as president.

    The library's dedication at Southern Methodist University will be something of a re-emergence for George W. Bush, who has preferred to stay out of the spotlight since leaving Washington after eight tumultuous years in office that followed six years as Texas governor.

    "Fourteen years was enough for me," Bush told People Magazine last week. "But I do want to stay engaged in issues that matter to me."

    Having served in a stressful job that always seems to age its occupants, the five men share a "common bond that supersedes any short-term policy or political differences," said Karen Hughes, a former top aide to George W. Bush.

    That said, this isn't necessarily the friendliest of fraternities.

    Obama, a 51-year-old Democrat, twice won election by denouncing Republican George W. Bush's handling of the presidency, from the struggling U.S. economy to wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Obama, the nation's first African-American president, also accused fellow Democrat Clinton of injecting race into the 2008 campaign, when Clinton was campaigning in South Carolina for his wife, Hillary, in the Democratic presidential primary.

    Republican George W. Bush, 66, criticized Clinton's handling of the economy in defeating Clinton's vice president, Al Gore, in 2000. Clinton used the same economic argument in 1992 to deny a second term to Bush's father, George H.W. Bush.

    It was George H.W. Bush, now 88, who had perhaps the most colorful putdown of Clinton and Gore in the 1992 presidential campaign when he said, "My dog Millie knows more about foreign policy than those two Bozos."

    'YOU CANNOT GET MAD AT THE GUY'

    It took a while for the edge to wear off from that campaign.

    When then-President Clinton attended George H.W. Bush's presidential library opening in College Station, Texas in 1997, Clinton aides recall that Bush and his wife, Barbara, were particularly gracious.

    On the other hand, their sons, George W. and Jeb, were frosty to the Clinton side, former Clinton press secretary Mike McCurry said.

    Five years after Clinton had denied the elder Bush a second term in the White House by casting the Republican as out of touch on the economy, "things were still a little bit raw," McCurry said.

    Now, Clinton and George H.W. Bush probably have the closest friendship within the group of presidents. They have worked together to raise money to help those stricken by a 2005 tsunami in the Indian Ocean that killed more than 230,000 people in more than a dozen countries.

    "You cannot get mad at the guy," George H.W. Bush wrote of Clinton after traveling with him in 2005. "I admit to wondering why he can't stay on time, but when I see him interacting with folks my wonder turns to understanding, with a dollop of angst thrown in."

    The younger Bush now gets along with Clinton, too. They worked together on Haiti earthquake relief in 2010.

    "I like him, and I love his father," Clinton said during an appearance with George W. Bush in Salt Lake City last August.

    The relationship between the last two presidents, Obama and George W. Bush, remains something of a work in progress, aides said.

    The two rarely speak, although Obama was gracious to his predecessor last year when Bush visited the White House for the formal unveiling of his presidential portrait.

    "We may have our differences politically, but the presidency transcends those differences," Obama said at the ceremony. "We all love this country. We all want America to succeed."

    A senior administration official said that Obama, now in his second term, has not changed his views about what he saw as "poor policy decisions" by Bush on the Iraq war and the U.S. economy. But, the official said, Obama has an appreciation "for the enormity of the decisions that a president has to make and the burden that a president has to bear, especially when Americans lose their lives."

    The Bush side, which was not happy at how Obama bashed him during the 2008 campaign, nevertheless is pleased that Obama is joining the group in Dallas.

    If there is a wild card in the group, it is Carter.

    Aides to Obama and those close to both Bushes and Clinton say the four of them are all a bit baffled and bemused by Carter, 88, who was president from 1977 to 1981, before the late Ronald Reagan's conservative revolution stormed Washington.

    Carter has consistently criticized all of his successors, even when they have been fellow Democrats.

    "The odd man out is Carter," said Ron Kaufman, a former adviser to the elder Bush.

    So what do the presidents talk about when they get together? If the past is any guide, they will keep it light.

    Dana Perino, who was a press secretary to George W. Bush, said after the presidents were together in 2009 she asked her boss what they had discussed.

    Bush's response: "We mostly talked about our families."
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    Apr 23, 2013 6:07 PM GMT
    Time dulls the memory.
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    Apr 23, 2013 6:35 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 saidTime dulls the memory.

    Time also allows a different perspective, sometimes not influenced by the opinions of the day.
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    Apr 23, 2013 8:32 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 saidTime dulls the memory.

    I watched Jay Leno's opening monologue last night. He mentioned the opening of the George Bush Library and Think Tank. The audience immediately broke into laughter at the news, without Leno saying anything else.

    But for the joke, he continued (here I'm loosely quoting from memory):

    "A George Bush think tank? He'll have to stay at the shallow end."

    The audience roared. There are lots of Americans who haven't forgotten what a moronic loser he was as President, and the great economic, social, military and diplomatic decline the US suffered under his administration.
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    Apr 23, 2013 8:36 PM GMT
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    Ex_Mil8 saidTime dulls the memory.

    I watched Jay Leno's opening monologue last night. He mentioned the opening of the George Bush Library and Think Tank. The audience immediately broke into laughter at the news, without Leno saying anything else.

    But for the joke, he continued (here I'm loosely quoting from memory):

    "A George Bush think tank? He'll have the stay at the shallow end."

    The audience roared. There are lots of Americans who haven't forgotten what a moronic loser he was as President, and the great economic, social, military and diplomatic decline the US suffered under his administration.
    GW Bush has a "think tank"icon_question.gif Wonders never cease.
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    Apr 23, 2013 9:17 PM GMT
    http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/336693/bush-reconsidered-victor-davis-hanson?utm_source=scribol.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=scribol.com
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    Apr 23, 2013 9:18 PM GMT
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    Ex_Mil8 saidTime dulls the memory.

    I watched Jay Leno's opening monologue last night. He mentioned the opening of the George Bush Library and Think Tank. The audience immediately broke into laughter at the news, without Leno saying anything else.

    But for the joke, he continued (here I'm loosely quoting from memory):

    "A George Bush think tank? He'll have the stay at the shallow end."

    The audience roared. There are lots of Americans who haven't forgotten what a moronic loser he was as President, and the great economic, social, military and diplomatic decline the US suffered under his administration.


    Maybe we NEED Southbeach back here .... just for you.
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    Apr 23, 2013 9:20 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidGW Bush has a "think tank"icon_question.gif Wonders never cease.

    It was a misquote. He has a fish tank.
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    Apr 23, 2013 10:41 PM GMT
    Bush must have some support, he raised that 500 million dollars like that.

    My only beef was the University he choose.

    SMU is full of a bunch of arrogant ass-wipes. Should have picked a public University where the endowment would have been put to better use.
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    Apr 23, 2013 10:58 PM GMT
    Aristoshark saidOh right, freedomisntfree....we should all regard the National Review as an impartial source.

    hahahahahahahahahaha


    fair enough

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/george-w-bush-is-victim-of-rush-to-judgment/2013/04/19/fe7e0d14-a136-11e2-82bc-511538ae90a4_story.html

    hahahahahahahahahahaha
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    Apr 23, 2013 11:13 PM GMT
    msuNdc saidBush must have some support, he raised that 500 million dollars like that.

    My only beef was the University he choose.

    SMU is full of a bunch of arrogant ass-wipes. Should have picked a public University where the endowment would have been put to better use.


    And a few (not all that many) bucks from me too.
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    Apr 24, 2013 6:38 PM GMT
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/24/obama-bush_n_3147522.html
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    Apr 25, 2013 12:08 PM GMT
    ABC News' Diane Sawyer with 43. A real gentlemen ... he absolutely refuses to criticize the current president.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/04/25/george_w_bush_on_iraq_future_of_gop_jeb_bush__presidency.html
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    Apr 25, 2013 1:10 PM GMT
    He had the good sense to shut up and go away; Ill give him that much.
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    Apr 25, 2013 3:34 PM GMT
    Certainly more than we got out of your good buddy Jimmy Carter.
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    Apr 25, 2013 7:05 PM GMT
    So even this doesn't matter to thoose blinded by their hate?

    http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/jimmy-carter-praises-george-w-bushs-assistance-to

    "Former President Jimmy Carter praised the work of George W. Bush in Africa at the Bush library dedication in Dallas, Texas on Thursday.

    "As has already been mentioned, he increased his assistance to Africa until the time he went into office to more than $90 billion," Carter said. "That's an increase of 640%. That is development assistance. He established a program. There was 6,000 people being treated for HIV. Two million when he left office. At this new institute he has a program called pink ribbon and red ribbon.

    He added: "That is something that is dear to my heart and I know means a lot to millions of people in africa. I am filled with admiration for you and deep gratitude for you. Thank you very much."
    "
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    freedomisntfree saidSo even this doesn't matter to thoose blinded by their hate?

    http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/jimmy-carter-praises-george-w-bushs-assistance-to

    "Former President Jimmy Carter praised the work of George W. Bush in Africa at the Bush library dedication in Dallas, Texas on Thursday.

    "As has already been mentioned, he increased his assistance to Africa until the time he went into office to more than $90 billion," Carter said. "That's an increase of 640%. That is development assistance. He established a program. There was 6,000 people being treated for HIV. Two million when he left office. At this new institute he has a program called pink ribbon and red ribbon.

    He added: "That is something that is dear to my heart and I know means a lot to millions of people in africa. I am filled with admiration for you and deep gratitude for you. Thank you very much."
    "

    Puhleeze. Carter so soft, he'd find ways to praise Hitler if he had to, lol.

    Besides: $6 trillion more US debt to send $90 billion to Africa?? ....sounds like false economy to me. icon_wink.gif


    Or we have president Obama with $6 trillion in new debt, but no $90 billion to Africa so by all means, do what you do best ..... HATE

    Edit: btw, that number is actually $4.899 trillion under Bush.

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    Apr 26, 2013 2:54 PM GMT
    George Bush is s good man. I think the words of President's Obama, Clinton, and Carter speaks for itself. History will be far kinder to Bush than many here would like to believe. He was a fine President presiding over a difficult time in our country's history. It's a tough job, and he's only one man. If I could do it all over I would still vote for him.
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    CuriousJockAZ saidGeorge Bush is s good man. I think the words of President's Obama, Clinton, and Carter speaks for itself. History will be far kinder to Bush than many here would like to believe. He was a fine President presiding over a difficult time in our country's history. It's a tough job, and he's only one man. If I could do it all over I would still vote for him.


    So would I, and then a vote for Dick Cheney as a follow up.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/michael-gerson-george-w-bush-a-principled-president/2013/04/24/2c6d819c-ad2f-11e2-b6fd-ba6f5f26d70e_story.html
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    Apr 26, 2013 3:54 PM GMT
    even a little respect from of all people, Donna Brazile

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/25/opinion/brazile-katrina-bush/index.html

    "George W. Bush was good as his word. He visited the Gulf states 17 times; went 13 times to New Orleans. Laura Bush made 24 trips. Bush saw that $126 billion in aid was sent to the Gulf's residents, as some members of his own party in Congress balked.

    Bush put a special emphasis on rebuilding schools and universities. He didn't forget African-Americans: Bush provided $400 million to the historically black colleges, now integrated, that remain a pride, and magnet for African-American students. Laura Bush, a librarian, saw to it that thousands of books ruined by the floods were replaced. To this day, there are many local libraries with tributes devoted to her efforts.

    It was a team effort. I'm glad to report the commission I served on went out-of-business in 2010. I'm also grateful and proud to report that President Bush was one of the leaders, and a very important member, of that team. Our recovery can be credited to the civility and tireless efforts of President Bush and other Americans, who united and worked together to help rebuild the Gulf and the place of my birth, New Orleans.
    "
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    Apr 26, 2013 4:54 PM GMT
    Wow ..... just Holy F**king Wow

    George Bush was a good man .... LOL
    He visited the Gulf States
    He gave to Black colleges??????

    Do you .... or do you NOT find it one teensy weensy bit funny that
    during all the speeches from him and EVERYBODY else
    there was not one word
    not even a syllable about all the deaths and all the money that went down the drain in Iraq
    .... not a Burp .... NOTHING about Katrina
    .... and as for TARP and his overseeing of the loss of over a Trillion dollars in deficit..... NOTHING

    Yeah he was a good man alright .... if you like incompetent War Criminals

    Goege W Bush was is and will always be until mebbe we get the next republican President The Worst President we have had in the Twenty First and Twentieth Centuries
    The other centuries are only debatable because we had Presidents who probably helped get us into a Civil War
    That ain't no good comparison
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    Apr 26, 2013 5:56 PM GMT
    Bush was a good president cuz he kept the country safe after the attack and kept the military strong but Obama been in his 5th year now and they attack us but nobody criticize Obama like the criticize Bush.

    And we had a good econmy with Bush too. Then cray-cray 60s liberal democrats came in for the last 2 years of Bush and everything went down the toilet. And Obama not doin anything in 4 years to make it better. Yeah Im the fool for voting for Obama twice but hes just doin more of the same this time.