is it better to get big or lean and ripped

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    Apr 25, 2013 10:25 AM GMT
    Whenever i try to bulk no matter what i feel extremly bloated and start gaining fat rapidly . That fact leads me to believe its better to be lean yr round. What do you guys think
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    Apr 25, 2013 1:47 PM GMT
    Its up to you. You cant gain muscle without gaining fat, but you can lose that fat afterwords. Some people wanna be lean, others big. Depending on what you want is what you should go after.
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    Apr 25, 2013 3:51 PM GMT
    Lean and ripped.
  • rnch

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    Apr 25, 2013 4:24 PM GMT
    The ideal solution would be to get BOTH.




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  • gwuinsf

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    Apr 25, 2013 6:50 PM GMT
    Three reasons to lose fat before gaining muscle:

    http://www.builtlean.com/2012/05/03/lose-fat-first/

    I have also read that lean bodies put on muscle better than fat bodies, but I can't find that article.
  • rnch

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    Apr 25, 2013 6:52 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]gwuinsf said....I have also read that lean bodies put on muscle better than fat bodies, but I can't find that article.[/quote]



    Prolly written by a skinny author.




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  • gwuinsf

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    Apr 25, 2013 7:29 PM GMT
    From Mark's Daily Apple: "People who are higher in fat, will always be lower in T-levels (and higher in Estrogen). So goal #1 should be to get your bodyfat lower and then worry about adding in the muscle as it will be easier at that point."
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    Apr 25, 2013 7:32 PM GMT
    Mark sounds like a writer for USA Today.
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    Apr 25, 2013 7:40 PM GMT
    Increasing muscle mass is a very slow process compared to loosing fat which is much quicker in comparison.

    If you are gaining too much fat when bulking it means that your calorie intake is higher than required.

    In order to gauge if you are increasing muscle mass the weight on the scale and the bar need to go up.

    From martin berkhans blog:
    "An extra 10 lbs added to your bench isn't impressive if you also gained 10 lbs of body weight. That's a 1:1 ratio of weight to strength, which is strongly indicative of fat gain. However, assume you added 10 lbs to your bench, but only 3 lbs of body weight. That's a 1:3.3 ratio of weight to strength, which is quite good. Odds are most of those 3 lbs came in the form of muscle and not fat."

    So, going my that, what's a good way to know if you are progressing? 0.5lb per week or 2lb per month are good gains. However it is only good if the weight on your main lifts have gone up correspondingly. Else most of you body weight gain could be just fat. Also don't forget that the law of diminishing returns is always in play.

    Getting fat-muscular or skinny-ripped are much easier to do compared to muscular-ripped.

  • Apr 25, 2013 10:23 PM GMT
    mike34 saidWhenever i try to bulk no matter what i feel extremly bloated and start gaining fat rapidly . That fact leads me to believe its better to be lean yr round. What do you guys think


    Honestly this boils down to how you want your body like. Bulking will add some fat but if you bulk very clean (hard i know) and don't go too excess in the calories you will mainly put on lean muscle mass. If you want to be big and ripped then don't worry about losing to much ab definition because you will gain it back when you cut.

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    May 07, 2013 3:00 AM GMT
    gwuinsf saidFrom Mark's Daily Apple: "People who are higher in fat, will always be lower in T-levels (and higher in Estrogen). So goal #1 should be to get your bodyfat lower and then worry about adding in the muscle as it will be easier at that point."


    From my experience, I was at 140 pounds, I had zero definition, I was just skinny as hell and looked extremely ill..

    I'm at 155 lbs right now and my abs are more visible than before.