Tips on lowering carbs?

  • sfboy987

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    Oct 21, 2008 1:26 AM GMT
    I made a thread a few weeks ago about how to maintain a diet while eating at my college cafeteria. That means I'm limited to certain foods. I'm finding a way to keep the calories at a right level, protein high, and lower the carbs. I'm eating carbs in moderation, but I feel like I'm still eating too many carbs. I've been eating mostly wheat bread for my toast with peanut butter, and my sandwhiches. Probably the worst carbs food I eat are those sesame buns when I eat a grilled chicken sandwhich. So any tips on how to get around some of these whole grains? Oh and one last quick question: are cheeseburgers really all that bad? I'm not talking about fast food burgers, but ones that are home grilled. I think the beef patties have high fat content, but it's a good source of protein. The only thing I see wrong with it are the bread buns. I appreciate any advice, thanks.
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    Oct 21, 2008 1:37 PM GMT
    I've said it once and I'll say it again.


    Carbs are not bad. True processed carbs don't do as much for you but Carbs are what should 60% or more of your calories a day. They regulate you blood sugar so you are more even keeled and not all peaks and valleys and ripping people's heads off
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    Oct 21, 2008 3:13 PM GMT
    Greygull saidI've said it once and I'll say it again.


    Carbs are not bad. True processed carbs don't do as much for you but Carbs are what should 60% or more of your calories a day. They regulate you blood sugar so you are more even keeled and not all peaks and valleys and ripping people's heads off


    But I like ripping people's heads off!

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    Oct 21, 2008 3:23 PM GMT
    Greygull saidI've said it once and I'll say it again.


    Carbs are not bad. True processed carbs don't do as much for you but Carbs are what should 60% or more of your calories a day. They regulate you blood sugar so you are more even keeled and not all peaks and valleys and ripping people's heads off


    There is not a single, magical number for everyone's nutritional needs. A percentage is an especially poor guide. Marathon runners and power lifters spend their says doing very different things and so have very different nutritional needs.

    Also, I don't believe carbs keep blood sugars on an even keel. That delicious danish is going to cause a wild spike, something fats and proteins do not do.


    But, to the OP, you should not avoid all carbs. Carbs are your friend. If you want to cut them, you need to know how much you are having in a day. Keeping a nutritional diary is easy to do and gives you the knowledge to make sensible choices. FitDay is a free, online nutrition calculator and highly recommended.
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    Oct 21, 2008 3:40 PM GMT
    MunchingZombie's right. Your best macronutrient profile (the %s) depends on your fitness goals. Carbs are what *cause* blood sugar, and they can contribute either to an even level or to a rollercoaster one. A lot of refined carbs have high glycemic indexes and will really spike your blood sugar, even if you eat it with lots of fiber and fat (to slow down the absorption).

    So, to answer the OP's question, if your carb consumption is too high, take the bad carbs off your plate! You're at a college cafeteria, so you can go back for seconds on the non-carby foods. Just take those sesame buns off the chicken, and eat the chicken. If you have to use a fork and knife suddenly, so what? Often these places serve some variety of beans, like a side of chickpeas or something, and you can eat that instead of the bread stuff.
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    Oct 21, 2008 3:40 PM GMT
    Ugh, the whole carbs controversy again. What happened to everything in moderation? Carbs or death I say! (I love bread and pasta).
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    Oct 21, 2008 3:52 PM GMT
    especially if we are talking Carbs or Death by Chocolate.
  • Timbales

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    Oct 21, 2008 4:17 PM GMT
    I'll take the death by chocolate, please.
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    Oct 21, 2008 4:18 PM GMT
    I'm not talking danish, I'm talking bread.


    I'm talking complex carbs versus simple ones, like sugar.


    Complex carbs are like slow release

    Simple ones are high spikes then crash kaboom
  • Timbales

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    Oct 21, 2008 4:20 PM GMT
    The diet I'm on has cut out gluten, so no wheat products, but I can have rice, potatoes and oats. If you're trying to lose weight, try dropping just wheat and sticking to the other carbs.
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    Oct 21, 2008 6:03 PM GMT
    Greygull saidI'm not talking danish, I'm talking bread.


    I'm talking complex carbs versus simple ones, like sugar.


    Complex carbs are like slow release

    Simple ones are high spikes then crash kaboom


    Complex carbs are the same way. Granted, whole grain bread wont have the same spike as straight sugar, but it still causes a spike in blood sugar levels. Complex carbs turn into glucose more slowly, but not even close to how slowly fats and proteins do.
  • sfboy987

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    Oct 22, 2008 1:02 AM GMT
    To Timberoo: I thought wheat is one of the best sources of whole grains? Well, now that I look at it I guess carbs aren't too bad, but I'm definetely making sure to eat them in moderation. Oh and I think I'll just take the sesame buns off the chicken because I think they've been too processed. However, I'm finding it hard to eat a certain amount of calories a day with the foods offered at my cafeteria. I've been eating milk, wheat bread, peanut butter, milk, nuts, veggies, various meats, whey protein, and my main source of fruit is watermelon because it's low on carbs. I've been keeping up a diary, and I usually try to keep carbs under 200 grams a day on a 2000 caloric diet. That's about 40%. Oh and any thoughts on my cheesburger question? Thanks for the help guys!
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    Oct 22, 2008 1:49 AM GMT
    thanks for the fitday reference I will have a look. I have an issue with diet a few hours before bed that I am looking to resolve. Perhaps fitday will lead me in the right direction.
    I just finished my workout at 2030 hours. A very intense two hours. I am losing up to 3 or 4 lbs weight during this activity maybe more. I get home and straight away take my protein powder with about two cups of fruit, 1/3 cup of yogurt and a tablespoon of udo's oil. oops also a scoop of green source all added to water and blended.
    I also had 3 oz piece of meat with a cup of turnip.garnish this with an onion and a half a bulb of garlic(never less).
    tea..thats my dinner before bed when i workout this late. it's sufficient I think for my body's needs.

    bread is a luxury.
    recently sourdough bread has been touted as the best bread for digestion-nutritionist claim.

    so much research was done in the 60's. endurance athletes need carbs.
    astrand(sweden-karolinska institute) was my reference to this statement.