Vitamin K2: The Vitamin Deficiency That is Written All Over Your Face

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    Apr 28, 2013 4:53 AM GMT
    http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/the-vitamin-deficiency-that-is-written-all-over-your-face/

    Are wrinkles an inevitable fact of aging or could laugh lines and crow’s feet potentially indicate a more serious underlying health issue?

    In 2011, researchers presented findings at a meeting of the Endocrine Society in Boston that revealed that women in their 40′s and 50′s who have extensive skin wrinkling are much more likely than their peers to have low bone mass.

    Researchers noted the relationship between wrinkles and bone density in every single bone tested which included hip, heel, and lumbar (spine). In addition, this relationship existed regardless of body fat percentage and age.
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    Apr 28, 2013 7:34 AM GMT

    Interesting..icon_smile.gif

    How would say about those taking collagen... another thing is that guys here age 25 start taking them icon_eek.gif...and that's totally unbelievable, don't make sense... seriously that's scary.
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    Apr 28, 2013 7:52 AM GMT
    Har19 said
    Interesting..icon_smile.gif

    How would say about those taking collagen... another thing is that guys here age 25 start taking them icon_eek.gif...and that's totally unbelievable, don't make sense... seriously that's scary.


    Collagen supplements do not work. Collagen is a protein, and like all proteins, when consumed, they become digested and break down into amino acids. Collagen supplements are overpriced protein supplements, and you're better off eating a steak or taking a whey protein supplement than spending your hard earned money on collagen skin care products. Collagen supplements are no more beneficial for skin health than eating a steak. Save your money...
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    Apr 28, 2013 7:55 AM GMT
    That is interesting however I don't understand why lower bone mass would necessarily result in the increased wrinkling of the skin.

    I always assumed the Japanese had less wrinkled skin purely because of genetic factors and the fact that the culture promotes sun avoidance.
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    Apr 29, 2013 1:11 AM GMT
    K2, unlike K. tends to keep the calcium in our bones and not in our blood stream.. It's complicated but it tends indirectly to keep the arteries smooth and minimize the effects of the "repare kit' which respons to a "MacDonalds" diet and hardens the arteries.
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    Apr 29, 2013 1:16 AM GMT
    MountainNC saidK2, unlike K. tends to keep the calcium in our bones and not in our blood stream.. It's complicated but it tends indirectly to keep the arteries smooth and minimize the effects of the "repare kit' which respons to a "MacDonalds" diet and hardens the arteries.


    Thanks.
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    Apr 29, 2013 1:35 AM GMT
    You're welcome stud. Also, if you want to live forever, eat four apples per day( including the core), brussels sprouts, onions (as close to the skin as possible) and garlic and mushrooms. This is in addition to regular supplements of course....along with picking your Grandparents!....so much depends on them.
    I'm 54 but nobody thinks I'm over 40 at the gym or anywhere else. But again, that is mostly genetic. ;-)
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    Apr 30, 2013 3:39 AM GMT
    Unintended said
    He_Man said
    Har19 said
    Interesting..icon_smile.gif

    How would say about those taking collagen... another thing is that guys here age 25 start taking them icon_eek.gif...and that's totally unbelievable, don't make sense... seriously that's scary.


    Collagen supplements do not work. Collagen is a protein, and like all proteins, when consumed, they become digested and break down into amino acids. Collagen supplements are overpriced protein supplements, and you're better off eating a steak or taking a whey protein supplement than spending your hard earned money on collagen skin care products. Collagen supplements are no more beneficial for skin health than eating a steak. Save your money...


    Effects of collagen peptide ingestion on UV-B-induced skin damage.
    Tanaka M, Koyama Y, Nomura Y.

    Abstract
    The effect of daily ingestion of collagen peptide on the skin damage induced by repeated UV-B irradiation was examined. Ingestion of collagen peptide (0.2 g/kg/d) suppressed UV-B-induced decreases in skin hydration, hyperplasia of the epidermis, and decreases in soluble type I collagen. These results suggest that collagen peptide is beneficial as a dietary supplement to suppress UV-B-induced skin damage and photoaging.

    For starters. There are many more such...



    These old, quackery myths about you are what you eat just won't die out. Eating collagen to increase your own collagen is about as logical as eating an eyeball expecting to increase your own eye health. Hell, if you want to become smarter just eat your college professors' brains. Consuming a heart will not make your own heart function better, and this goes with eating collagen or applying collagen to the skin.


    "So many companies have jumped on the collagen bandwagon that it is very hard for consumers to realise that there is actually no scientific proof that collagen supplements have any effects on skin health and appearance at all. Since collagen, like any kind of protein, is broken up by the digestive system into amino acids, there is no guarantee that drinking collagen drinks would be any more effective than any source of protein such as meat, cheese, eggs or beans at restoring the collagen in your skin." - By CosMed, MD

    http://cosmedmd.blogspot.com/2012/09/collagen-supplements-do-they-really-work.html

    "Oral supplements not effective

    Dr Ang said: 'One must have adequate nutrition for the protein building blocks. Otherwise there is no raw material for the skin to manufacture collagen.

    'But eating collagen does not translate into more collagen in the skin.'

    Collagen in or added to food, beverages and pills is digested into amino acids, absorbed by the cells in the small intestine and used to make proteins the body needs.

    Some evidence shows that amino acids from digested collagen can be used to synthesise collagen in the human body, DrWee said.

    But these amino acids can also be used to create proteins other than collagen, he said.

    There is scant evidence that oral collagen supplementation is warranted for any medical condition, he added.

    Can't be absorbed by skin

    It seems logical that applying collagen to the skin would help supplement levels.

    It does not.

    Dr Jhingan said: 'The collagen molecules in skin care products are simply too large to be absorbed by the skin. Most just sit on top of the skin, and do nothing to help collagen reproduction deep in the facial tissue."

    [url]http://www.timesdirectories.com/biotech/news/Collagen%20myths%20busted/671067[/url]

    Collagen Myth:


    The biochemistry of collagen synthesis:
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    Apr 30, 2013 4:13 AM GMT
    He_Man saidEating collagen to increase your own collagen is about as logical as eating an eyeball expecting to increase your own eye health. Consuming a heart will not make your own heart function better, and this goes with eating collagen or applying collagen to the skin.

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    May 01, 2013 11:21 PM GMT
    Interesting...

    http://products.mercola.com/vitamin-k/
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    May 03, 2013 4:53 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidInteresting...

    http://products.mercola.com/vitamin-k/


    I already supplement with K. You need all forms, including the MK-2 and MK-7 forms of K-2. Apparently we absorb more calcium with Vitamin D, and absent K-2 it's more likely to go places we don't want it to, like calcified arterial plaque.
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    May 03, 2013 4:57 PM GMT
    Most people in western countries have a vitamin deficiency..

    It's not only Vitamin K that is good for skin, Vitamin A, C and E are good as well, hell. Instead of worrying that you're missing out on a single vitamin, you should focus on getting them all.
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    May 07, 2013 12:45 PM GMT
    raw egg yolks are ultimate vitamin bombs. talk it without egg white as it iimpedes absorption of egg yolk vitamins.
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    Jun 03, 2013 1:33 PM GMT
    Eeff saidMost people in western countries have a vitamin deficiency..

    It's not only Vitamin K that is good for skin, Vitamin A, C and E are good as well, hell. Instead of worrying that you're missing out on a single vitamin, you should focus on getting them all.


    Right, but don't overdo it - especially with Vitamin A.
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    May 27, 2014 7:35 AM GMT
    I've researched a lot about k2 specifically mk4, it has the potential to increase height and enhance facial features.
    Someone told me that prenatal mk4 gives people strong zygomatic arches.

    I've read a few sensational claims from people who have taken 15-45mg of mk4, increased height, growth of cheekbones, jaw widening and rib cage widening.

    One woman grew 3 cm at the age of 58.

    If you take it within the range of 14-45 mg then make sure to also supplement with vit D, A, calcium and magnesium.
    One woman reported bone loss from mk4 because these vitamins and minerals weren't in balance and it depleted them.