Questions for all Black and Latino RJ members

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    Apr 28, 2013 5:07 PM GMT
    Because both the African American and other black cultures and the Latino cultures are very based on some of the same ideas of machismo and (false) masculinity I wanted to ask some questions to get a non heated dialogue raised:

    1) How do you identify both your sexual orientation and your ethnic/racial identity?

    2) How long have you been out of the closet? What led to you deciding to come out? If you are not out of the closet why are you still in there?

    3) When you hear the term 'gay black man' of 'gay Latino man' what is the first thing that pops into your head?

    4) If its more masculine than feminine why do you think that is? How does what is in your head match up with the reality you've seen?

    5) When you came out to other African or Latino Americans how did they react? How do they react now when they find out you are non straight?

    6) Have you ever felt as if being non straight made you less black or Latino?

    7) How much of a connection do you have to the black or Latino community? Do you feel as if you still fit in?
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    Apr 28, 2013 6:00 PM GMT
    MidnightsChild saidBecause both the African American and other black cultures and the Latino cultures are very based on some of the same ideas of machismo and (false) masculinity I wanted to ask some questions to get a non heated dialogue raised:

    1) How do you identify both your sexual orientation and your ethnic/racial identity?
    2) How long have you been out of the closet? What lead to you deciding to come out?
    3) If you are not out of the closet why are you still in there? What factors be they societal or personal have kept you in hiding?
    4) When you hear the term 'gay black man' of 'gay Latino man' what is the first thing that pops into your head?
    5) If its more masculine than feminine why do you think that is? How does what is in your head match up with the reality you've seen?
    6) If its more feminine than masculine why do you think that is? How does what is in your head match up with the reality you've seen?
    7) If what you thought of was more masculine than feminine does that or did that contribute to you staying in the closet longer because you did not fit that image?
    icon_cool.gif If what you thought of was more feminine than masculine does that or did that contribute to you to being in the closet longer because you did not fit that image?
    9) When you finally accepted yourself for your non heterosexual status did that affect how you saw yourself as a man for any period of time?
    10) When you came out to other African or Latino Americans how did they react? How do they react now when they find out you are non straight?
    11) Have you ever felt as if being non straight made you less black or Latino?
    12) Do you sometimes feel like you have to pick a side: gay or your ethnic/racial identity?
    13) Would you say you mesh in with the rest of the gay black or Latino community?
    14) Lastly what is your opinion yourself now as a non straight black or Latino individual?


    I'll answer my questions to kick things off. I'm writing and trying to eat at the same time so I will fill in more answers as time goes on:

    -- I am gay and black
    -- I've officially gay for once year but altogether non straight for three years
    -- The first thing that pops into my head is RuPaul or Dwight from Real Housewives of Atlanta
    -- It's obviously more feminine and for the most part matches what I've seen from openly gay black men. The ones around me are either incredibly feminine or not out of the closet, lol.
    -- When I thought of gay people growing up I thought of white guys anyway because I didn't believe or rather I was taught black people were not allowed or supposed to be gay
    -- In a way it did change how I saw myself gender wise. Well not really. I mean I had always known I was not traditionally male and so coming out of the closet allowed me to explore what that really meant and whether I was a man at all and I've come to discover that I'm really not or I don't feel like one sometimes
    -- Most black people who were not related to me already assumed I was gay anyway. So when I came out it was almost like a 'what else is new' type of vibe, lol. To this day I am a little hesitant when I meet a new black person because I know it's going to come up. So I usually just throw it out there and get it over with.
    -- When I was closeted I actually saw my gayness as an affront to my blackness. Again for most of my life I was taught that black people weren't supposed to be gay. Black men were supposed to real men, stronger men as compared to white men. So coming out as gay made me question some things.
    -- There are many times when I feel like I'm forced to take a side on an issue. It's not an internal conflict but more how others react to me being gay and black. Most black people at first assume I'm straight so when the topic ever comes up they expect me to be on the anti gay side. And when I'm with my gay friends they expect me to kind of turn a blind eye to the racism in the gay community. I actually had one white gay man say to me 'oh please I'm a fag. How can I be racist?' So there's that.....
    -- I didn't mesh with the straight black community and I don't with the gay one either. Mostly because I'm not really active in it. I don't do clubs unless I'm with someone and I'm not into a lot of things they are into. The black gay community is a strange animal to me because it seems very entrenched in the mimicking of heterosexual society. I have never seen so many fem/masc pairings in my life. I rarely see two masculine black men together. I guess it's their own problem and not mine.
    -- I like these layers to myself. I'm proud of each one. I wear them like badges of honor. I take pride in the fact that I lucked out to be different. It's not always a barrel of laughs being different. But when I think about being a boring ole breeder I sigh in relief.
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    Apr 28, 2013 10:24 PM GMT
    Anyone else?
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    Apr 29, 2013 2:34 AM GMT
    Why is it when you people want to complain about why white men don't want you y'all jump all over that but an actual thoughtful discussion is passed over? Lol odd.
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    Apr 29, 2013 2:39 AM GMT
    The questions are waaaaaaaay too long boo......this isn't supposed to be a college essay....

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    Apr 29, 2013 2:42 AM GMT
    Yeah, seriously. Most guys on this site have an attention span of a tree stump. That's why the Guy Above You threads are so popular. Doesn't take much brain power to participate in those. icon_lol.gif

    Shorten your survey down to 5 questions at least.
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    Apr 29, 2013 2:44 AM GMT
    jmusmc85 saidThe questions are waaaaaaaay too long boo......this isn't supposed to be a college essay....

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    Lol I had a lot to say. There's a lot I wanted to know.
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    Apr 29, 2013 2:55 AM GMT
    You should apply at the Census bureau....
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    Apr 29, 2013 2:58 AM GMT
    MisfitToy saidbut an actual thoughtful discussion is passed over?


    Welcome to life. icon_smile.gif
  • TheBizMan

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    Apr 29, 2013 2:59 AM GMT
    I was about to start answering questions, but then I kept scrolling and they didn't stop.

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    Apr 29, 2013 3:00 AM GMT
    MisfitToy saidBecause both the African American and other black cultures and the Latino cultures are very based on some of the same ideas of machismo and (false) masculinity I wanted to ask some questions to get a non heated dialogue raised:

    1) How do you identify both your sexual orientation and your ethnic/racial identity?
    2) How long have you been out of the closet? What lead to you deciding to come out?
    3) If you are not out of the closet why are you still in there? What factors be they societal or personal have kept you in hiding?
    4) When you hear the term 'gay black man' of 'gay Latino man' what is the first thing that pops into your head?
    5) If its more masculine than feminine why do you think that is? How does what is in your head match up with the reality you've seen?
    6) If its more feminine than masculine why do you think that is? How does what is in your head match up with the reality you've seen?
    7) If what you thought of was more masculine than feminine does that or did that contribute to you staying in the closet longer because you did not fit that image?
    8} If what you thought of was more feminine than masculine does that or did that contribute to you to being in the closet longer because you did not fit that image?
    9) When you finally accepted yourself for your non heterosexual status did that affect how you saw yourself as a man for any period of time?
    10) When you came out to other African or Latino Americans how did they react? How do they react now when they find out you are non straight?
    11) Have you ever felt as if being non straight made you less black or Latino?
    12) Do you sometimes feel like you have to pick a side: gay or your ethnic/racial identity?
    13) Would you say you mesh in with the rest of the gay black or Latino community?
    14) Lastly what is your opinion yourself now as a non straight black or Latino individual?


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    Apr 29, 2013 3:00 AM GMT
    TheBizMan saidI was about to start answering questions, but then I kept scrolling and they didn't stop.



    I just wanted to cover all my bases.
  • onefortified

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    Apr 29, 2013 3:01 AM GMT
    TheBizMan saidI was about to start answering questions, but then I kept scrolling and they didn't stop.



    This
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    Apr 29, 2013 3:02 AM GMT
    Too many questions. Do you have a School Project or something?
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    Apr 29, 2013 3:03 AM GMT
    There I shortened it.

    Let's get it going Negroes and Chicos!
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    Apr 29, 2013 3:05 AM GMT
    MisfitToy saidThere I shortened it.

    Let's get it going Negroes and Chicos!


    Bitch that ain't short!!!


    Seriously....5 questions MAX!!!
  • LoveAndPeace

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    Apr 29, 2013 3:05 AM GMT
    Too...many...words
  • onefortified

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    Apr 29, 2013 3:06 AM GMT
    Shortened what? icon_confused.gif
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    Apr 29, 2013 3:07 AM GMT
    The La riots must have been forgotten ,Two decades ago the gangs were everywhere.
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    Apr 29, 2013 3:07 AM GMT
    There I shortened it again.

    Lol black people do not like to read.
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    Apr 29, 2013 3:08 AM GMT
    Homesteaders saidThe La riots must have been forgotten ,Two decades ago the gangs were everywhere.


    The fuck you talking bout?
  • JFitNC

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    Apr 29, 2013 3:08 AM GMT
    jmusmc85 said
    MisfitToy saidThere I shortened it.

    Let's get it going Negroes and Chicos!


    Bitch that ain't short!!!


    Seriously....5 questions MAX!!!


    Ha.
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    Apr 29, 2013 3:08 AM GMT
    Ok so I guess I'll be the first to actually answer icon_rolleyes.gif here we go

    1. Gay, Culture and nationality is Mexican. Race is a mix native/black/white
    2.I came out when I was 16, my dad told me to come out already
    3.Skip
    4. Hot gay guys
    5. I don't know
    6. skip
    7. skip
    8.skip
    9. not at all growing up my mom had gay/les/ and trans friends so I always felt ok about it
    10. Everyone I have ever come out to has been cool
    11. What no
    12. never
    13. I don't blend into any part of the gay community
    14. I don't get it
  • TheBizMan

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    Apr 29, 2013 3:09 AM GMT
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    Apr 29, 2013 3:09 AM GMT
    MisfitToy saidThere I shortened it again.

    Lol black people do not like to read.


    Gurl the majority of the complaints are from Hispanics! icon_lol.gif I'm of Hispanic descent so that really doesn't count lol