China’s Gays and Lesbians Join the Global Debate on Same-Sex Marriage

  • metta

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    May 02, 2013 3:05 AM GMT
    China’s Gays and Lesbians Join the Global Debate on Same-Sex Marriage




    http://world.time.com/2013/05/01/chinas-gays-and-lesbians-stymied-by-lack-of-marriage-equality/
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    May 02, 2013 3:39 AM GMT
    I don't think same-sex marriage will happen in China in near future either.

    People tend to ignore the gays in most cases.
    Maybe they will talk behind your back.
    But you won't be bullied because of this.

    Actually, in history, gay sex was seen as normal as heterosexual sex.
    In our most famous literature, Dream of the Red Chamber, there're plenty of same sex descriptions.
    Some are romantic, some are ridiculous, some are purely carnal.
    It's not a big deal.

    In Chinese history, there's no such period that gay folks were killed just because of their sexuality. This is quite different from Europe.
    Maybe it's because of the lack of a steadfast faith of God or Budda, or anything there.
    China is always a secular nation.
  • reptile18

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    May 02, 2013 2:27 PM GMT
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    QUOTE AUTHOR GOES HERELuwianMemories
    6 hours ago


    China should legalize gay marriage. Why? Because due to the One-Child Policy, there is a serious imbalance in gender, with males outnumbering females. So, when gay men are forced to marry straight women, not only does it create problems between themselves, it also takes available straight women off the market and away from straight men. Thus, straight are either forced to go unmarried even if they want to, or are forced to buy trafficked women from neighboring countries such as North Korea.

    As for people opposing gay marriage because it brings family lines to an end, the Chinese government should make an additional exemption (atop of all the ones they make for minorities, people who grew up as only children, people with rural hukou, etc.). That is, if your child turns out to be gay, you should be allowed to apply to have a second child.

    This fix is so simple that the only reason that I can think of for opposing this is that traditionally, men and women were expected to wed each other and start families, while same sex relationships (at least as of the present with the current level of technology) do not produce offspring naturally (of course, when I say naturally, I am excluding test tube babies, surrogates, adoption, etc). As a result, by not producing offspring, gay couples are seen to be affronting their ancestors. Of course, gay people are not stoned to death, but I believe there is still social stigmatization. This is also true for other East Asian countries, though Taiwan I believe is moving more and more toward allowing same sex unions.


    The part in bold is very interesting.
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    May 02, 2013 2:35 PM GMT
    reptile18 saidIn the comments:

    QUOTE AUTHOR GOES HERELuwianMemories
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    China should legalize gay marriage. Why? Because due to the One-Child Policy, there is a serious imbalance in gender, with males outnumbering females. So, when gay men are forced to marry straight women, not only does it create problems between themselves, it also takes available straight women off the market and away from straight men. Thus, straight are either forced to go unmarried even if they want to, or are forced to buy trafficked women from neighboring countries such as North Korea.

    As for people opposing gay marriage because it brings family lines to an end, the Chinese government should make an additional exemption (atop of all the ones they make for minorities, people who grew up as only children, people with rural hukou, etc.). That is, if your child turns out to be gay, you should be allowed to apply to have a second child.

    This fix is so simple that the only reason that I can think of for opposing this is that traditionally, men and women were expected to wed each other and start families, while same sex relationships (at least as of the present with the current level of technology) do not produce offspring naturally (of course, when I say naturally, I am excluding test tube babies, surrogates, adoption, etc). As a result, by not producing offspring, gay couples are seen to be affronting their ancestors. Of course, gay people are not stoned to death, but I believe there is still social stigmatization. This is also true for other East Asian countries, though Taiwan I believe is moving more and more toward allowing same sex unions.


    The part in bold is very interesting.


    That is a very interesting comment and it makes some sense. It takes the marriage equality issue into a very straight male serving direction.