NYC proposes increasing minimum age for buying cigarettes to 21

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    May 02, 2013 3:48 PM GMT
    Personally I think it's a repulsive habit but I also fail to see how it's any of my business - just like nearly all drugs out there. Instead of adding restrictions, they should be removing them.

    http://www.npr.org/2013/05/02/180369084/new-york-tobacco-regulations-light-up-public-health-debate
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    May 02, 2013 3:50 PM GMT
    As high as cigarette taxes are in NYC, they should lower the age to 4 or 5 and really rake in the cash.
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    May 04, 2013 3:54 PM GMT
    Why 21icon_question.gifAdulthood begins at 18. NYC's proposal should get shot down. I hate cigarette smoking because it is a filthy, poisonous habit. But if you are 18 or older, it is strictly your own personal business if you want to poison your body with nicotine. It is none of government's damned business. Smoking is deadly at any age.
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    May 04, 2013 4:24 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidWhy 21icon_question.gifBut if you are 18 or older, it is strictly your own personal business if you want to poison your body with nicotine. It is none of government's damned business.

    So is suicide is one's own personal business...So, does it mean that one can end their life if they want to?
    If you try to stop a person who is about to commit suicide and if that person replies "It's none of your business...it's my life and I'll end when I want to" will you let him/her die or will you continue persuading the person to stop? what if that person is one of your close friends or family?
    The govt. is just doing the same as what you would do to a person who is about to commit suicide.
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    May 04, 2013 4:32 PM GMT
    Harry7785 said
    roadbikeRob saidWhy 21icon_question.gifBut if you are 18 or older, it is strictly your own personal business if you want to poison your body with nicotine. It is none of government's damned business.

    So is suicide is one's own personal business...So, does it mean that one can end their life if they want to?
    If you try to stop a person who is about to commit suicide and if that person replies "It's none of your business...it's my life and I'll end when I want to" will you let him/her die or will you continue persuading the person to stop? what if that person is one of your close friends or family?
    The govt. is just doing the same as what you would do to a person who is about to commit suicide.
    If you are old enough to fight in a war, to hold down a fulltime job, go to college, get your own place of residence than dammit all you are old enough to smoke and you are old enough to drink. Some of these facist control freak politicians that keep pushing for the legally arbitrary age of 21 need to be permanently kicked out of office. The government is getting totally out of control and becoming too dictatorial. America is a land of free choice, not a land of facist dictatorship. This is ridiculous.
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    May 04, 2013 5:11 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    Harry7785 said
    roadbikeRob saidWhy 21icon_question.gifBut if you are 18 or older, it is strictly your own personal business if you want to poison your body with nicotine. It is none of government's damned business.

    So is suicide is one's own personal business...So, does it mean that one can end their life if they want to?
    If you try to stop a person who is about to commit suicide and if that person replies "It's none of your business...it's my life and I'll end when I want to" will you let him/her die or will you continue persuading the person to stop? what if that person is one of your close friends or family?
    The govt. is just doing the same as what you would do to a person who is about to commit suicide.

    If you are old enough to fight in a war, to hold down a fulltime job, go to college, get your own place of residence than dammit all you are old enough to smoke and you are old enough to drink. Some of these facist control freak politicians that keep pushing for the legally arbitrary age of 21 need to be permanently kicked out of office. The government is getting totally out of control and becoming too dictatorial. America is a land of free choice, not a land of facist dictatorship. This is ridiculous.

    Yes, govt. is out of control...but still you can appreciate good things that can benefit everyone.
    and another thing is, your explanation is not appealing to me. It means to me like, just because I achieve something in life, I have a right to do or I deserve something. But that's not morally right.
    If I work hard and earned a million dollars, I can do what I like...but which is more appealing to you...buying an expensive car with that money to satisfy my desires or using it for greater good like donating to an orphanage or animal safety or planting trees, etc. whatever ?
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    May 05, 2013 3:42 PM GMT
    If you can be expected to fight in a war at age 18 and die for your country then you should be able to buy whatever you want.

    Cigarettes and Alcohol Included.
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    May 05, 2013 3:46 PM GMT
    msuNdc saidIf you can be expected to fight in a war at age 18 and die for your country then you should be able to buy whatever you want.

    Cigarettes and Alcohol Included.


    +1

    If you can vote, drive a car, legally get married, get charged as an adult at 18 why the hell can't you drink at 18?

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    May 11, 2013 3:37 PM GMT
    MisfitToy said
    msuNdc saidIf you can be expected to fight in a war at age 18 and die for your country then you should be able to buy whatever you want.

    Cigarettes and Alcohol Included.


    +1

    If you can vote, drive a car, legally get married, get charged as an adult at 18 why the hell can't you drink at 18?

    I agree 100%. It is time to ban MADD from the halls of government. These so called mothers against drunk drivers are nothing more than publicity seeking, fascist control freaks.
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    May 11, 2013 4:06 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said

    I agree 100%. It is time to ban MADD from the halls of government. These so called mothers against drunk drivers are nothing more than publicity seeking, fascist control freaks.

    That's over the top and harsh.
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    May 11, 2013 4:10 PM GMT
    coolarmydude said
    roadbikeRob said

    I agree 100%. It is time to ban MADD from the halls of government. These so called mothers against drunk drivers are nothing more than publicity seeking, fascist control freaks.

    That's over the top and harsh.
    But it is the truth. MADD's insisting that the drinking age be 21 is over the top. Drinking and driving is extremely dangerous at any age, not just between 18-21.
  • psycsnacha

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    May 14, 2013 12:48 AM GMT
    lol - we'll see kids picking up cig buds off the ground now.
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    May 14, 2013 11:30 AM GMT
    Just stop selling them. icon_idea.gif