so i got this message in my inbox......

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    May 05, 2013 6:03 AM GMT
    "I think the messages you left were horrible and shows how much most gay men such as yourself are horrible people. Hey, no matter what you want to believe there is nothing morally different between a woman beating a man and a man beating a woman. Remember when it comes to Domestic violence women are HALF the problem. You are sickening." -rman23


    Hmmm interesting no?

    my response is as follows.....there is a big difference between being slapped out of anger in a fit of rage be your partner because you literally pushed every button you could find and being battered, i know i lived most of my life being an abuse victim. my father abused me(and my siblings but they are not in this discussion nor will be) from the time i was six to 14 and no one came to help me in that situation except my mother who could only protect me from some of it while i lived with him. i do not think there is a difference between abuse in any direction. However, no one gender is a problem when it comes to abuse. the problem is people lack empathy and they would rather blame than understand, much like what you just did right here.

    Abuse is bad all around, but the truth of the matter is this. Men are notorious for being much larger and stronger so in fact they can defend themselves a great deal better than most woman can. The world has often had a "machismo" concept where the man controls a great deal of the relationship and we are just recently seeing a great rise in woman taking a great deal of the power they really have not had(i am speaking in general as there have been powerful woman all through history, they are not being reference here as it is not on topic) as much access to as they would like.

    Woman are not "half the problem" in abuse situations, the problem is people lack empathy. They would rather sit there and bitch you out six ways to sunday before ever even speaking with you or looking at your situation. you can't blame the victim for being abused all the time. i mean granted there are some people who deserved to get the shit slapped out of them(many people in my life and even me some times if i am being crazy as hell that day) but we are not talking a slap or a push or a shove. domestic violence is beyond that, its intent is not to shock; its intent is to damage completely and utterly and remove any kind of power from the individual much like what my father did to his children and to my mother as well.

    So no i will not feel shame for saying what i said in your post, frankly you have very little understanding of the MANY situations domestic violence can grow in or the daily pain of living with those memories. It literally hurts every day carrying round scars from a past i never wanted....but i do and i heal just like everyone else does. I hope you actually learn to speak to a person before addressing them in such a fashion and about a subject you clearly cannot empathise with properly. It is not just about statistics it is also about the human beings who have to live through this crap every day of their lives. Compared to them we have been going through heaven.

    I say this last part with as much kindness as i can muster at this point.......................................................SHUT UP!


    ok, rant over...anyone up for a cocktail? I dont even drink and im willing to take a few shots after all that.
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    May 05, 2013 7:11 AM GMT
    Oh I got that message too

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    Excuse me. Who the fuck are you?

    I grew up in a house of three women. Two of which where in abusive relationships. I've seen the damage that happens from them.

    And if you have ever even bothered to read any other threads I've taken part of on this topic I don't believe you should ever raise your hand to someone you love period!

    So take your moral high ground bullshit and shove it up your judgmental arse!
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    May 05, 2013 7:19 AM GMT
    lilTanker saidOh I got that message too

    My response

    Excuse me. Who the fuck are you?

    I grew up in a house of three women. Two of which where in abusive relationships. I've seen the damage that happens from them.

    And if you have ever even bothered to read any other threads I've taken part of on this topic I don't believe you should ever raise your hand to someone you love period!

    So take your moral high ground bullshit and shove it up your judgmental arse!



    honestly it just annoyed me that he made a discussion into an argument over who was more correct. I made a point and so did he and frankly neither of us are the moral composes for the rest of the universe. We each have to figure out our crap and deal with it accordingly.
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    May 05, 2013 6:25 PM GMT
    JoshAlexander saidhonestly it just annoyed me that he made a discussion into an argument over who was more correct. I made a point and so did he and frankly neither of us are the moral composes for the rest of the universe. We each have to figure out our crap and deal with it accordingly.

    Considering how long it was since I last posted in that thread I honestly can't remember if he posted in it or not.

    If he did eh.
  • jackooh

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    May 05, 2013 6:29 PM GMT
    people try too hard to be liberal, just cus you think that one slap hardly counts as domestic violence doesnt mean you're gunna vote romney
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    May 06, 2013 1:28 AM GMT
    jackooh saidpeople try too hard to be liberal, just cus you think that one slap hardly counts as domestic violence doesnt mean you're gunna vote romney


    Another reason why I hate liberals.
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    May 06, 2013 3:15 AM GMT
    [quote][cite]Incendiary said

    Another reason why I hate liberals.[/quote]

    This conversation has nothing to do with being liberal or conservative. Hating "liberals" or "conservatives" is an exceedingly odious and toxic form of thought, it is limiting and unnecessary. I am liberal by my concepts of social and spiritual methods but i do not consider myself liberal. i consider myself a humanist.
  • free_mind12

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    May 07, 2013 8:20 AM GMT
    yourname2000 said
    JoshAlexander said
    Incendiary saidAnother reason why I hate liberals.

    This conversation has nothing to do with being liberal or conservative. Hating "liberals" or "conservatives" is an exceedingly odious and toxic form of thought, it is limiting and unnecessary. I am liberal by my concepts of social and spiritual methods but i do not consider myself liberal. i consider myself a humanist.

    Hahaha, don't take the bait, Josh. "He's a liberal" is just what the inbred say whenever they can't say anything intelligent but feel like the world is passing them by and they worry they're being ignored. icon_wink.gif


    and using derogatory comments in such a context is any better?