Why guncontrol is now irrelevant... introducing the Liberator 3-D printed pistol

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    May 06, 2013 4:50 PM GMT
    http://techcrunch.com/2013/05/06/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-liberator-3d-printed-pistol/
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    May 06, 2013 4:59 PM GMT
    It's a zip gun. It would take you a week to massacre a school with one (if it didn't kill you first). It is irrelevant to the control of assault weapons.
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    May 06, 2013 5:20 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 saidIt's a zip gun. It would take you a week to massacre a school with one (if it didn't kill you first). It is irrelevant to the control of assault weapons.


    It's the first generation. 3D printing is in its infancy. You do the math.
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    May 06, 2013 5:45 PM GMT
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    Ex_Mil8 saidIt's a zip gun. It would take you a week to massacre a school with one (if it didn't kill you first). It is irrelevant to the control of assault weapons.


    It's the first generation. 3D printing is in its infancy. You do the math.


    'Printing' a high tensile, high alloy Chrome Molybdenum steel barrel? I'd say about 100 years away.
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    May 06, 2013 5:51 PM GMT
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    riddler78 said
    Ex_Mil8 saidIt's a zip gun. It would take you a week to massacre a school with one (if it didn't kill you first). It is irrelevant to the control of assault weapons.


    It's the first generation. 3D printing is in its infancy. You do the math.


    'Printing' a high tensile, high alloy Chrome Molybdenum steel barrel? I'd say about 100 years away.


    If you say so. You make the assumption that that the development of these new guns will follow the same path of previous guns optimized around conventional methods. But meh - you read it here first then it would seem.
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    May 07, 2013 11:14 AM GMT
    Rachel Maddow has been covering this. Here are some interesting things about this:

    1) This group is a "Libertarian anarchist" group that is seeking to undermine laws with this gun printing. They self-identify as sovereign individuals.

    2) Reagan banned plastic guns back in the late '80s. To circumvent this law, this group inserts a non-functional steel plate into the gun.

    I don't see how this makes gun laws irrelevant. They will get banned.
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    May 07, 2013 1:03 PM GMT
    coolarmydude saidRachel Maddow has been covering this. Here are some interesting things about this:

    1) This group is a "Libertarian anarchist" group that is seeking to undermine laws with this gun printing. They self-identify as sovereign individuals.

    2) Reagan banned plastic guns back in the late '80s. To circumvent this law, this group inserts a non-functional steel plate into the gun.

    I don't see how this makes gun laws irrelevant. They will get banned.


    With the proliferation of 3D printers, to ban guns like these would be similar to banning profanity or printing a bad word. What may happen is that you get some type of ID mark as is the case now with laser printers that you can identify the source of a printed page - but you can't ban the printing itself. Well you can, but it would be an exercise in futility. It would be similar to banning pressure cookers in the aftermath of the Boston bombings.
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    May 08, 2013 6:59 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 saidIt's a zip gun. It would take you a week to massacre a school with one (if it didn't kill you first). It is irrelevant to the control of assault weapons.


    The Liberator pistol (dropped over occupied France during WWII) wasn't intended as a multiple use weapon.

    The idea was that you would use it to shoot an enemy soldier and then take his higher quality rifle.

    Many police departments have a Remington 870 shotgun attached to the console and an AR-15 clone with 30 round magazines in the squad card.

    It takes little imagination to see how things would work.
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    May 08, 2013 8:37 PM GMT
    That's like saying because people can make homemade explosives that there's no point in regulating explosives? Interesting logic.
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    May 08, 2013 8:41 PM GMT
    riddler78 said
    coolarmydude saidRachel Maddow has been covering this. Here are some interesting things about this:

    1) This group is a "Libertarian anarchist" group that is seeking to undermine laws with this gun printing. They self-identify as sovereign individuals.

    2) Reagan banned plastic guns back in the late '80s. To circumvent this law, this group inserts a non-functional steel plate into the gun.

    I don't see how this makes gun laws irrelevant. They will get banned.


    With the proliferation of 3D printers, to ban guns like these would be similar to banning profanity or printing a bad word. What may happen is that you get some type of ID mark as is the case now with laser printers that you can identify the source of a printed page - but you can't ban the printing itself. Well you can, but it would be an exercise in futility. It would be similar to banning pressure cookers in the aftermath of the Boston bombings.



    You forgot child porn.
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    May 08, 2013 9:44 PM GMT
    Stan24 saidThat's like saying because people can make homemade explosives that there's no point in regulating explosives? Interesting logic.


    Oh you can regulate thought and ideas - but how effective is that going to be?