Minnesota expected to legalize same-sex marriage after House passes measure

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    May 10, 2013 12:08 AM GMT
    As activists jammed the state Capitol, lawmakers voted Thursday to make Minnesota the 12th state to legalize same-sex marriage, just six months after voters made it clear they supported it.

    Same-sex marriages would be recognized beginning Aug. 1 if the Senate follows suit next week. It's expected to approve the measure, which Democratic Gov. Mark Dayton has said he would sign.


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    May 10, 2013 12:31 AM GMT
    Looks like a done deal. Another defeat for our RJ conservaposse. YAY!!!!
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    May 10, 2013 12:44 AM GMT
    its already being discussed here http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/3184488

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    May 10, 2013 12:47 AM GMT
    CharleyChase90232 saidits already being discussed here http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/3184488

    This is a new development, southbeach. Try keeping up. But thanks for the bump. icon_biggrin.gif
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    May 10, 2013 6:14 AM GMT
    I'm so proud of my state!!!!!
  • monet

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    May 10, 2013 9:07 AM GMT
    That would make 12 states.

    12 states = 24% of the states (or nearly one quarter of the states).
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    May 10, 2013 4:21 PM GMT
    I'm just angry Illinois is slacking off...
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    May 10, 2013 5:54 PM GMT
    It dont make any difference cuz if you go to a state that doesnt like Illinois you arent married. Obama could have fixed this his first 2 years but he didnt cuz he just uses the gays to get votes.
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    May 10, 2013 7:04 PM GMT
    CharleyChase90232 saidIt dont make any difference cuz if you go to a state that doesnt like Illinois you arent married. Obama could have fixed this his first 2 years but he didnt cuz he just uses the gays to get votes.


    Rofl! You STILL don't get it. icon_lol.gif
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    May 10, 2013 7:25 PM GMT
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    CharleyChase90232 saidIt dont make any difference cuz if you go to a state that doesnt like Illinois you arent married. Obama could have fixed this his first 2 years but he didnt cuz he just uses the gays to get votes.

    Rofl! You STILL don't get it. icon_lol.gif

    Because he doesn't WANT to get it, and more importantly, doesn't want US to get it.

    The President has no such authority on his own. Eliminating DOMA, which is the Federal stumbling block to recognizing same-sex marriage, requires either the US Supreme Court to overturn it as unconstitutional, or both Houses of Congress to repeal it, with the President's signature.

    The Obama Administration in fact DID drop defense of DOMA against legal challenges in the Courts, and it was the Republican House that has spent millions of taxpayer dollars to argue for DOMA's continuation in the cases the US Supreme Court is now deciding.

    In terms of legislation, at no time have Democrats enjoyed a Senate super majority during Obama's Presidency that could block a Republican filibuster of DOMA repeal. With the exception of a 30-day window in the summer of 2009, when Democrat Al Franken joined the Senate (after a lengthy & meritless election challenge by Republicans), and just before Sen. Edward Kennedy died of brain cancer that was already keeping him out of Senate business. And even with Franken & Kennedy Dems only had 58 votes, not the 60 needed, another possible 2 votes coming from unpredictable Independents.

    So that CharleyChase's argument is totally bogus. But it does exactly fit the pattern of another guy who's no longer here, who used the same deceptions to make similar bogus claims that Obama has done nothing for gays. Can anyone guess who that was?
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    May 10, 2013 7:57 PM GMT
    ART_DECO said
    meninlove said
    CharleyChase90232 saidIt dont make any difference cuz if you go to a state that doesnt like Illinois you arent married. Obama could have fixed this his first 2 years but he didnt cuz he just uses the gays to get votes.

    Rofl! You STILL don't get it. icon_lol.gif

    Because he doesn't WANT to get it, and more importantly, doesn't want US to get it.

    The President has no such authority on his own. Eliminating DOMA, which is the Federal stumbling block to recognizing same-sex marriage, requires either the US Supreme Court to overturn it as unconstitutional, or both Houses of Congress to repeal it, with the President's signature.

    The Obama Administration in fact DID drop defense of DOMA against legal challenges in the Courts, and it was the Republican House that has spent millions of taxpayer dollars to argue for DOMA's continuation in the cases the US Supreme Court is now deciding.

    In terms of legislation, at no time have Democrats enjoyed a Senate super majority during Obama's Presidency that could block a Republican filibuster of DOMA repeal. With the exception of a 30-day window in the summer of 2009, when Democrat Al Franken joined the Senate (after a lengthy & meritless election challenge by Republicans), and just before Sen. Edward Kennedy died of brain cancer that was already keeping him out of Senate business. And even with Franken & Kennedy Dems only had 58 votes, not the 60 needed, another possible 2 votes coming from unpredictable Independents.

    So that CharleyChase's argument is totally bogus. But it does exactly fit the pattern of another guy who's no longer here, who used the same deceptions to make similar bogus claims that Obama has done nothing for gays. Can anyone guess who that was?


    I know I know! NorthShore1200 or something. Or was it WestSands1400, or EastSeaside1900?

    Gasp, no, surely you couldn't possibly mean SouthBeach1500?

    *faints*

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    May 10, 2013 8:05 PM GMT
    Obama will do anything for votes, including use gay people
    How blind are you guys? Gays get used so much, it's no wonder they can't trust ppl
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    May 10, 2013 8:06 PM GMT
    So what's next if same sex marrage is legalized? Everyone packs up their picket signs and rainbow flags and goes home to their board and marks another win for the gay people?
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    May 10, 2013 8:07 PM GMT
    Joeyphx444 saidObama will do anything for votes, including use gay people
    How blind are you guys? Gays get used so much, it's no wonder they can't trust ppl


    Too bad He doesn't have a world-savy genius like you on His Cabinet to help guide Him.

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    May 10, 2013 8:25 PM GMT
    This goes out to Michelle Bachmann:

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    ^
    speaking of....

    Tell John Boehner: Remove Michele Bachmann from the House Intelligence Committee

    http://share.credoaction.com/4/84?action_id=113654541&akid=7873.847485.7HBm7o&ar=1&rd=1&taf=1


    GOP Lawmaker, Rep. Peggy Scott : ‘My Heart Breaks’ Because Thousands Of Same-Sex Couples Will Be Able To Marry


    http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/gop-lawmaker-my-heart-breaks-because-thousands-of-same-sex-couples-will-be-able-to-marry/politics/2013/05/10/66734
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    May 10, 2013 8:49 PM GMT
    Joeyphx444 saidSo what's next if same sex marrage is legalized? Everyone packs up their picket signs and rainbow flags and goes home to their board and marks another win for the gay people?

    I'm sorry a victory for same-sex marriage would disappoint you so much, and matter so little to you. But it would matter very much to millions of US LGBT, including me and lots of RJ members. Why do you begrudge us this?

    And why so dismissive, if not actually hostile & untruthful, about the part the Obama Administration has played in advancing gay civil rights? The last 6 years have seen more positive gains for US gays, despite fanatical Republican Party opposition, than at any time in US history.

    Far from using gays, Obama has earned our appreciation by bringing us further along than we have ever been before. And certainly further than any Republicans would have, who have pledged to send us backwards. Not as fast moving forward as I would have liked, but the political realties of dealing with the Party of No cannot be overlooked, and certainly not blamed on Obama.

    Now please tell us about the wonderful help gays have received from Speaker Boehner, Senate Minority Leader McConnell, and other assorted Republican office holders & celebrities like McCain, Palin, Romney, Cantor, Graham, Jindal, Scott, Perry, Bachmann, Priebus, Rove... well, it's a very long list, comprising the majority of prominent Republicans.
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    May 10, 2013 9:01 PM GMT
    Does that mean less people will want to come to Canada to get married?
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    May 10, 2013 9:07 PM GMT
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    Obama will do anything for votes, including use gay people
    How blind are you guys? Gays get used so much, it's no wonder they can't trust ppl


    So what's next if same sex marrage is legalized? Everyone packs up their picket signs and rainbow flags and goes home to their board and marks another win for the gay people?


    Uh huh. Why don't you read about how it happened in Canada and then you might understand what Obama is up to. icon_lol.gif

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    May 10, 2013 9:11 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    Joeyphx444 said



    Obama will do anything for votes, including use gay people
    How blind are you guys? Gays get used so much, it's no wonder they can't trust ppl


    So what's next if same sex marrage is legalized? Everyone packs up their picket signs and rainbow flags and goes home to their board and marks another win for the gay people?


    Uh huh. Why don't you read about how it happened in Canada and then you might understand what Obama is up to. icon_lol.gif


    And you think he can read? He sure can't think. And why are you thinking a Republican has the capacity to care about anyone but himself?
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    May 10, 2013 9:18 PM GMT
    Destinharbor said
    meninlove said
    Joeyphx444 said



    Obama will do anything for votes, including use gay people
    How blind are you guys? Gays get used so much, it's no wonder they can't trust ppl


    So what's next if same sex marrage is legalized? Everyone packs up their picket signs and rainbow flags and goes home to their board and marks another win for the gay people?


    Uh huh. Why don't you read about how it happened in Canada and then you might understand what Obama is up to. icon_lol.gif


    And you think he can read? He sure can't think. And why are you thinking a Republican has the capacity to care about anyone but himself?


    lol, ...well yes I do, actually. (we have Republican friends and family in the US who protest-voted for Obama twice now.) icon_wink.gif

    Some Republicans are extremely, extremely angry with their Party and their Party's little slave, the tea party.



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    May 10, 2013 9:40 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    Some Republicans are extremely, extremely angry with their Party and their Party's little slave, the tea party.

    Is the Tea Party the slave, or the tail wagging the dog? From down here it seems like the Teabaggers have got the Republican Party by the balls, in concert with the Christian fundamentalists and corporate interests.

    To the extent that the GOP is now merely a front organization for something else much more sinister, whose model was the Fascism of the 1920s & 30s. So that "some Republicans" may indeed feel alienated by this radical swing to the extreme Right. But until those Republicans turn their backs on a party that has turned their backs on them, and stop giving blind loyality to neo-Fascists, the Republican Party will continue to enjoy a winning formula in many parts of the US.
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    May 10, 2013 10:04 PM GMT
    meninlove saidSome Republicans are extremely, extremely angry with their Party and their Party's little slave, the tea party.


    Yup. I am one (technically I'm a registered independent voter, but normally lean right on a lot of things).
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    May 10, 2013 10:06 PM GMT
    @Art:

    the "neo-fascist" label is misleading, unless you also apply it to the democrats as well, who shape policy for their corporate and union backers above that of the common people about as often as the GOP does for its corporate backers.
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    May 10, 2013 10:21 PM GMT
    metta8 said

    ^
    speaking of....

    Tell John Boehner: Remove Michele Bachmann from the House Intelligence Committee

    http://share.credoaction.com/4/84?action_id=113654541&akid=7873.847485.7HBm7o&ar=1&rd=1&taf=1


    GOP Lawmaker, Rep. Peggy Scott : ‘My Heart Breaks’ Because Thousands Of Same-Sex Couples Will Be Able To Marry


    http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/gop-lawmaker-my-heart-breaks-because-thousands-of-same-sex-couples-will-be-able-to-marry/politics/2013/05/10/66734


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    Oddly enough, I had a crystal clear image of what she looked like before clicking the link. Is it just me or do all these fundamentalist women look alike? Teased fake hair, loaded with hairspray and a fake smile.