Black Man in Portugal

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    May 11, 2013 1:53 AM GMT
    When I get the chance to study abroad i'm thinking maybe Portugal, in the Lisbon metro area. How are gay men and black men or a combination of both perceived their. Are their many wealthy or better off black guys their, I'm just wondering about travel and living conditions. Also is the discrimination very bad?
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    May 11, 2013 5:41 AM GMT
    If there's one thing I've learned, it's that being black is way more fun in virtually every other country. Even extremely xenophobic societies like japan don't really treat you differently. You'll get discriminated against maybe for being American, but racial identity is not going to be nearly as much of a factor in 90% of the rest of the world for you as it will be in the US.
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    May 11, 2013 10:30 AM GMT
    I guess there must be a lot of black people in Portugal since they had many colonies in Africa.
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    May 11, 2013 10:47 AM GMT
    if this has any insight, my Portuguese friend told me that they don't even consider themselves as being White in Portugal quote-unquote.
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    May 11, 2013 6:56 PM GMT
    Isugemi saidI guess there must be a lot of black people in Portugal since they had many colonies in Africa.


    This is true. I have been in Portugal on vacation four times. I believe they recently passed a marriage law for gays but there is some discrimination every where in the world, although probably not as much in Lisboa.
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    May 11, 2013 7:01 PM GMT
    Dekiruman said it perfectly...

    I am studying in Antwerp, Belgium right now. I've been to Hungary, Slovenia, Croatia and Italy... Not only will you not be discriminated, you will actually be a rare commodity. especially in Budapest, Reijka, and Slovenia
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    May 11, 2013 10:02 PM GMT
    They are perceived very well there as long as they do not mix their "there" with "their."Now you are graduating from what?
  • Aodhan

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    May 11, 2013 10:08 PM GMT
    Portugal has a high population of people of African descent, don;t worry! They are very open minded so you're sorted icon_biggrin.gif
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    May 12, 2013 1:57 AM GMT
    Thanks for your support and information it helps a lot. Also the their and there who is there? they are their, there and their are an illogical pear, if they wanted to different meanting's then they shouldn't of had the same words. This trend in our language must tear, because we are cheating are own words and that is not fair. How are you doin' up there? icon_wink.gif

    My mix up of their and there is an accident sorry, and this a sarcastic attitude or a "smart-mouthed" attitude?
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    May 12, 2013 2:10 AM GMT
    Dekiruman saidIf there's one thing I've learned, it's that being black is way more fun in virtually every other country. Even extremely xenophobic societies like japan don't really treat you differently. You'll get discriminated against maybe for being American, but racial identity is not going to be nearly as much of a factor in 90% of the rest of the world for you as it will be in the US.


    That's very true. In Europe, you are often better off being a black American than a white American because of the association of white American culture with extreme political points of view (including very racist ones), patriotism, anti-Europeanism, and far more pro-international war, which in the general European viewpoint are extremist right, like how the KKK is comparable to neo-Nazi-ism.

    Edit: also, they are highly fascinated with black American musical culture (jazz, blues, soul, disco, funk, hiphop) and kind of look at black American's as an exotic representative of that fascinating culture.
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    May 12, 2013 3:07 AM GMT
    Knowing the difference between there and their is more important than the amount of pigment in your skin.
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    May 22, 2013 3:06 PM GMT
    Dekiruman saidIf there's one thing I've learned, it's that being black is way more fun in virtually every other country. Even extremely xenophobic societies like japan don't really treat you differently. You'll get discriminated against maybe for being American, but racial identity is not going to be nearly as much of a factor in 90% of the rest of the world for you as it will be in the US.


    I agree with most of this. When I was in Spain I was seen as a rare commodity, and a lot of guys treated me as a piece of sexual meat. And I was ok with that icon_wink.gif
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    May 22, 2013 3:29 PM GMT
    McAllister saidThey are perceived very well there as long as they do not mix their "there" with "their."Now you are graduating from what?


    +1
  • mascmuscle35

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    May 22, 2013 3:45 PM GMT
    Portugal had several African colonies and a BIG one -- Brazil. I think you will be perceived as American more so than black. How is your Portuguese?
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    May 22, 2013 3:45 PM GMT
    Dekiruman saidIf there's one thing I've learned, it's that being black is way more fun in virtually every other country. Even extremely xenophobic societies like japan don't really treat you differently. You'll get discriminated against maybe for being American, but racial identity is not going to be nearly as much of a factor in 90% of the rest of the world for you as it will be in the US.



    This is true. In all the countries i've been in South America is pretty much the same.
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    May 22, 2013 4:04 PM GMT
    McAllister saidThey are perceived very well there as long as they do not mix their "there" with "their."Now you are graduating from what?


    ha! thank you! icon_smile.gif
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    May 22, 2013 4:47 PM GMT
    Hey

    Skin tone or race are not an issue here, at least I don't feel like they are. I have never seen any blatant descrimination against gay guys either, but truth is it's not like you see public displays all the time. But honestly, I could not assure you there would be none: as somebody said, it is everywhere, unfortunately.

    About wealthy black gay guys.. Sorry, I am not Internal Revenue Service! Hehe

    Now if your goal is to study, and depending on what your degree is, there are other cities that have leading universities, for some particular areas. But mind that the further away you get from Lisboa or Porto, the fewer offers for entertainment and social life in general (gay or not) there will be.

    Get back to me if you need any further help!

    Cheers,

    João