Study: Belief in an angry God associated with variety of mental illnesses

  • metta

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    May 12, 2013 5:20 AM GMT

    Study: Belief in an angry God associated with variety of mental illnesses



    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/04/17/study-belief-in-an-angry-god-associated-with-variety-of-mental-illnesses/
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    May 12, 2013 6:34 AM GMT
    That's obvious, isn't it?
    for example, looking at Muslim, Hindu and christian extremists we can understand it.

    Those who think their god is demanding and violent they act violently.
    In truth, they just didn't understand what actually their religion tries to say.
  • Mitchell7665

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    May 12, 2013 6:43 AM GMT
    Disagree. Their religion DOES say the things they try to push. Religious extremists can be disregarded as idiots but most of the time they are practicing their religion exactly how it was written.
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    May 12, 2013 7:07 AM GMT
    Jye92 saidDisagree. Their religion DOES say the things they try to push. Religious extremists can be disregarded as idiots but most of the time they are practicing their religion exactly how it was written.


    Agreed...
  • heyom

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    May 12, 2013 7:08 AM GMT
    Most definitely. It needs to be balanced out with caring and mercy. What if you had a parent that was only ever angry? You would definitely grow up with a stress lol. Of course a parent will be angry at regular intervals, but it shouldn't be the "default" setting icon_smile.gif
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    May 12, 2013 7:21 AM GMT


    Yea...
  • He_Man

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    May 12, 2013 7:48 AM GMT

    It could also be argued that mental illnesses predispose people to believing in an angry God.

    Which came first: the chicken or egg? Same could be said with this study. Does belief in an angry god produce mental illnesses, or more likely, do mental illnesses predispose people to magical and religious thinking?
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    May 12, 2013 8:59 AM GMT
    Jye92 saidDisagree. Their religion DOES say the things they try to push. Religious extremists can be disregarded as idiots but most of the time they are practicing their religion exactly how it was written.


    potato/potAto....either way, they're idiots/mentally ill
  • Vaughn

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    May 12, 2013 9:28 AM GMT
    Nietzsche believed that people of religion justified their actions using their religion rather than their religion dictating their actions.
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    May 12, 2013 10:40 AM GMT
    I believe the character of the "God" is only a reflection of the believer.

    Violent people create or latch on to the violent God of retribution.

    Peaceful people connect with the forgiving God.

    Powerless people need an all powerful God.
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    May 12, 2013 12:44 PM GMT
    Psychiatrists never go beyond correlations...
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    May 12, 2013 3:14 PM GMT
    He_Man said
    It could also be argued that mental illnesses predispose people to believing in an angry God.

    Which came first: the chicken or egg? Same could be said with this study. Does belief in an angry god produce mental illnesses, or more likely, do mental illnesses predispose people to magical and religious thinking?
    good point
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    May 12, 2013 3:32 PM GMT
    Addy23 said
    Human personality has nothing to do with religion in most of the case.


    I find most people's concept of their god is just a reflection of their own personality. Stern, by-the-rules people tend to view god as a cold, angry god. Kind-hearted, generous people tend to believe in a merciful god.
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    May 12, 2013 3:34 PM GMT
    n8698u saidI believe the character of the "God" is only a reflection of the believer.

    Violent people create or latch on to the violent God of retribution.

    Peaceful people connect with the forgiving God.

    Powerless people need an all powerful God.


    Ah I see you beat me to it. It's obvious we have observed the same phenomenon.
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    May 12, 2013 3:35 PM GMT
    n8698u saidI believe the character of the "God" is only a reflection of the believer.

    Violent people create or latch on to the violent God of retribution.

    Peaceful people connect with the forgiving God.

    Powerless people need an all powerful God.


    *frank admiration*

    This is my thinking as well; the book has an uncanny ability to expose people for who they are.
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    May 12, 2013 3:40 PM GMT
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    Jye92 saidDisagree. Their religion DOES say the things they try to push. Religious extremists can be disregarded as idiots but most of the time they are practicing their religion exactly how it was written.

    Agreed...

    Wait a min!
    before you two disagree and agree, I would like to point out few observations anyone can see for themselves...
    1."Their religion does say"?
    That's the point I just said(see 3rd line).
    So, you disagree and agree at the same time?
    Anyway, I'll give you an ex:
    A famous misconception about the phrase "An eye for an eye" in Christianity.
    When people were told, 'an eye for an eye' for a simple translation anyone can say that it's insisting to do violence, well actually it's the very opposite.
    Its real meaning is, when you pullout an eye from your enemy, you should be ready to lose your eye too...which is a warning god said to people that if you act violence, you will be harmed in return by the same violence, so don't do it.

    This is the very simple concept of which all/most of all (both atheist and theist) missing to grasp in religion.



    2. "they are practicing their religion exactly how it was written"?
    I strongly disagree on this one...cause I'll give an example, this one is also a Christian example I'm giving, for most of you all are Christians I think.
    So, coming to the Ex: In bible it was said by Jesus "If anyone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also."
    Did you see any Christian following this?

    Note: I'm not a Christian. Just sating because, after reading all this you may think I'm defending Christianity.
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    May 12, 2013 4:13 PM GMT
    UndercoverMan said

    I find most people's concept of their god is just a reflection of their own personality. Stern, by-the-rules people tend to view god as a cold, angry god. Kind-hearted, generous people tend to believe in a merciful god.


    That is a very interesting theory and extremely worthy of psychological research....
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    May 12, 2013 4:42 PM GMT
    Jye92 saidDisagree. Their religion DOES say the things they try to push. Religious extremists can be disregarded as idiots but most of the time they are practicing their religion exactly how it was written.


    ...And missing the whole point of their religion in the process. This is the reason why taking religious texts literally is problematic. The Bible is a dense book filled with a mix of stories, history and parables. Taken out of context, you can find support for almost anything, even behavior that is in direct opposition to the central points the book/verse is trying to make.

    Harry makes a couple of great points above.

    Love for God, love for self and love for others are the three overarching themes in the Bible (and I would assume, in many religious texts). If one claims to be religious and is promoting hatred/violence/bigotry... the person likely took a major detour somewhere in the understanding of their religion.

    I also agree with n8698u above - people often find what they are looking for/need when practicing religion. Usually for the better, but occasionally for the worse.
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    May 12, 2013 4:42 PM GMT
    Vaughn saidNietzsche believed that people of religion justified their actions using their religion rather than their religion dictating their actions.

    One could certainly be persuaded to that view regarding Christian fundamentalists, who cherry-pick the Bible to support what they believe, and ignore what they find inconvenient & contradictory.

    It's often noted by others how fundamentalists cite many Biblical condemnations of gays, but overlook condemnations of diet, clothing, gender roles, and countless other prohibitions that they openly violate.

    But hey, if they wanna mow their lawn on the Sabbath, then shave to go out later for some shrimp while wearing a polyester & cotton shirt, taking along their wife who's having her period, later coming home to post a gay bashing on a blog as directed by God's holy & indisputable word, I guess we have to allow them. But I think old Nietzsche had them pegged, selectively using religion as excuse, not enlightenment.
  • HottJoe

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    May 13, 2013 2:54 PM GMT
    Isn't belief in any God a mental illness, regardless of whether it's an angry god or a happy go lucky god????

    Personally I believe in a slutty God. That's why I say, oh God, over and over again while in the throes of passion.icon_razz.gif
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    May 13, 2013 3:05 PM GMT
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    n8698u saidI believe the character of the "God" is only a reflection of the believer.

    Violent people create or latch on to the violent God of retribution.

    Peaceful people connect with the forgiving God.

    Powerless people need an all powerful God.


    *frank admiration*

    This is my thinking as well; the book has an uncanny ability to expose people for who they are.


    Yep even Satan found scriptures to suit his purpose. A disjointed history of a few thousand years has a context to suit every occasion. And as the wise men above pointed out, the passages on which you choose to focus says a lot more about you than the organization you claim to represent.
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    May 13, 2013 3:13 PM GMT
    NJShiftyJK said
    meninlove said
    n8698u saidI believe the character of the "God" is only a reflection of the believer.

    Violent people create or latch on to the violent God of retribution.

    Peaceful people connect with the forgiving God.

    Powerless people need an all powerful God.


    *frank admiration*

    This is my thinking as well; the book has an uncanny ability to expose people for who they are.


    Yep even Satan found scriptures to suit his purpose. A disjointed history of a few thousand years has a context to suit every occasion. And as the wise men above pointed out, the passages on which you choose to focus says a lot more about you than the organization you claim to represent.


    Did somebody say Satan???icon_twisted.gif
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    May 13, 2013 3:28 PM GMT
    Hmmm, have known quite a few secular people who suffer from the same psychological problem mentioned in the article. In general, people drawn to negativity invent lots or reasons for thinking that way. So it isn't surprising that religion could be misused by them.
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    May 13, 2013 3:30 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    NJShiftyJK said
    meninlove said
    n8698u saidI believe the character of the "God" is only a reflection of the believer.

    Violent people create or latch on to the violent God of retribution.

    Peaceful people connect with the forgiving God.

    Powerless people need an all powerful God.


    *frank admiration*

    This is my thinking as well; the book has an uncanny ability to expose people for who they are.


    Yep even Satan found scriptures to suit his purpose. A disjointed history of a few thousand years has a context to suit every occasion. And as the wise men above pointed out, the passages on which you choose to focus says a lot more about you than the organization you claim to represent.


    Did somebody say Satan???icon_twisted.gif


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    May 13, 2013 3:30 PM GMT
    Just one more anecdote to throw into the pile:

    http://www.nj.com/middlesex/index.ssf/2013/05/autopsy_shows_pathmark_shooter.html

    QUOTE AUTHOR GOES HEREAutopsy shows Old Bridge Pathmark shooter's tattoo: 'God loves violence'

    Etched in black cursive across Terence Tyler’s torso was the disturbing mantra of a killer.

    "If there is a God he loves violence," the tattoo read. "It is his gift to mankind. It is truly magnificent and for this I am thankful."

    The chilling words were detailed in an autopsy report filed by the Office of the Middlesex County Medical Examiner and released to The Star-Ledger Sunday, nearly nine months after Tyler opened fire at the Pathmark in Old Bridge, killing two employees and then taking his own life.

    The autopsy report also revealed there were no drugs or alcohol in Tyler’s system at the time of the shooting.

    The medical examiner found little physically wrong with Tyler, a 23-year-old former U.S. Marine. The cause of death was suicide from a gunshot to the right side of his head. It was previously unclear whether Tyler was struck by police gunfire or took his own life.

    The tattoo, however, presents a window into his mindset.

    "The victor has always been the one who brings the most death and destruction," the last line of the tattoo reads.