Obama Morehouse Commencement Speech

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    May 22, 2013 3:33 AM GMT
    A part of President Obama's Morehouse speech really struck a tone with me. Even though the speech was wasn't focused on the gay community I thought was pretty applicable to younger gays today.

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/19/politics/obama-morehouse-commencement

    President ObamaNobody cares how tough your upbringing was. Nobody cares if you suffered some discrimination. And moreover, you have to remember that whatever you've gone through, it pales in comparison to the hardships previous generations endured -- and they overcame them. And if they overcame them, you can overcome them, too,
  • ADL14

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    May 22, 2013 3:38 AM GMT
    Yes, that is a great quote. But I personally like a few other things he said in the speech. Overall, it was very good!
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    May 22, 2013 3:51 AM GMT
    There are way more inspirational Black men in the country than Obama
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    May 22, 2013 3:58 AM GMT
    Joeyphx444 saidThere are way more inspirational Black men in the country than Obama


    Such as?
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    May 22, 2013 5:29 AM GMT
    MisfitToy said
    Joeyphx444 saidThere are way more inspirational Black men in the country than Obama


    Such as?


    Yeah. I'm waiting to hear some examples too.

    I find Nelson Mandela the most inspirational Black Man out there but he's not from this country.
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    May 22, 2013 5:38 AM GMT
    Joeyphx444 saidThere are way more inspirational Black men in the country than Obama


    Why is this even a necessary comment? Is it a competition? If he inspires one person to greatness, then he is inspirational. And gosh darn it, the first black President of the United States is pretty inspirational. This comment takes the cake for ill timed tripe.
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    May 22, 2013 5:48 AM GMT
    trbld saidIs it just me or is the first part of that quote borderline insensitive? lol


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    May 22, 2013 6:41 AM GMT
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    Suecer said
    Joeyphx444 saidThere are way more inspirational Black men in the country than Obama


    Why is this even a necessary comment? Is it a competition? If he inspires one person to greatness, then he is inspirational. And gosh darn it, the first black President of the United States is pretty inspirational. This comment takes the cake for ill timed tripe.



    I get your point but I get his point as well.
    The only examples of positive powerful black men are Obama and Mandela? Just two men?


    You won't find them in America. America likes showing the black males that are failures or the ones that are acting like (because they are) fools. If you go over seas, you'll find people: Damon Buffini, Mo Ibrahim, Tidjane Thiam, Trevor Faure, Stanley Musesengwa,
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    datscarf said
    Suecer said
    Joeyphx444 saidThere are way more inspirational Black men in the country than Obama


    Why is this even a necessary comment? Is it a competition? If he inspires one person to greatness, then he is inspirational. And gosh darn it, the first black President of the United States is pretty inspirational. This comment takes the cake for ill timed tripe.



    I get your point but I get his point as well.
    The only examples of positive powerful black men are Obama and Mandela? Just two men?


    There are most certainly more than two. People find inspiration in many places. There are inspiring spiritual figures, athletes, scientists, doctors, etc. Just off the top of my head I can name Governor Deval Patrick (MA), Justice Clarence Thomas, Attorney General Eric Holder, General Collin Powell, Kenneth Chenault (AMEX CEO), Don Thompson (McDonald's CEO), Jason Collins. The preceding were just in the US. Outside the US you have, Archbishop Desmond Tutu, Aliko Dangote (wealthiest African), etc.

    Suffice it to say, there are many black role models. However, the position of President certainly commands the most attention, whether we like it or not, and when the President says something it is amplified. As such, subjectively declaring that there are more inspirational black people than the President is at best an unsubstantiated opinion. On the only objective measure of "inspiration", reach, the President certainly has everyone beat. And merely by virtue of his position, as the most powerful man in the US and arguably the world, he is likely at the apex of inspiration for all humanity, let alone just black Americans.
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    May 22, 2013 2:16 PM GMT
    trbld saidIs it just me or is the first part of that quote borderline insensitive? lol


    it's not just you but there is no room for sensitivity when one is serving realness
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    May 22, 2013 3:06 PM GMT
    trbld saidIs it just me or is the first part of that quote borderline insensitive? lol


    no, in the context he's speaking to african american students about how they need to find a way to be successful in spite of the discrimination they face because the world at large doesn't care about the disenfranchisement those men are subjected too.
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    May 22, 2013 3:20 PM GMT
    MisfitToy said
    Joeyphx444 saidThere are way more inspirational Black men in the country than Obama


    Such as?


    Pretty much any other person at this point. I'm appalled by the lack of integrity this man has displayed. He campaigned night and day that he would be a president for the people, and that his administration would be the example of transparency. Now that he's in office, all we have are his broken promises and some of the most controversial and possibly treasonous actions and orders given by a president ever. And the only recourse Citizens get, whatever the civil liberty breach may be, is that it is for our safety.
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    May 22, 2013 4:03 PM GMT
    First i am only a U.S citizen thru marriage , second i share my life almost equally between my home country and America , third i am not smart enough to hold a conversation about politic ..I am not a Republican , or a Democrat or anything else , but when i look at how the economy in the U.S have improved in the last year , i am thinking , what all those Yankees have to complain about !.
    Coming back to the original thread , i think the speech was inspirational , Obama was quite direct and honest about his words ..
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    May 22, 2013 5:36 PM GMT
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    datscarf said
    Suecer said
    Joeyphx444 saidThere are way more inspirational Black men in the country than Obama


    Why is this even a necessary comment? Is it a competition? If he inspires one person to greatness, then he is inspirational. And gosh darn it, the first black President of the United States is pretty inspirational. This comment takes the cake for ill timed tripe.



    I get your point but I get his point as well.
    The only examples of positive powerful black men are Obama and Mandela? Just two men?


    There are most certainly more than two. People find inspiration in many places. There are inspiring spiritual figures, athletes, scientists, doctors, etc. Just off the top of my head I can name Governor Deval Patrick (MA), Justice Clarence Thomas, Attorney General Eric Holder, General Collin Powell, Kenneth Chenault (AMEX CEO), Don Thompson (McDonald's CEO), Jason Collins. The preceding were just in the US. Outside the US you have, Archbishop Desmond Tutu, Aliko Dangote (wealthiest African), etc.

    Suffice it to say, there are many black role models. However, the position of President certainly commands the most attention, whether we like it or not, and when the President says something it is amplified. As such, subjectively declaring that there are more inspirational black people than the President is at best an unsubstantiated opinion. On the only objective measure of "inspiration", reach, the President certainly has everyone beat. And merely by virtue of his position, as the most powerful man in the US and arguably the world, he is likely at the apex of inspiration for all humanity, let alone just black Americans.


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    May 22, 2013 5:59 PM GMT
    Animus said
    MisfitToy said
    Joeyphx444 saidThere are way more inspirational Black men in the country than Obama


    Such as?


    Pretty much any other person at this point. I'm appalled by the lack of integrity this man has displayed. He campaigned night and day that he would be a president for the people, and that his administration would be the example of transparency. Now that he's in office, all we have are his broken promises and some of the most controversial and possibly treasonous actions and orders given by a president ever. And the only recourse Citizens get, whatever the civil liberty breach may be, is that it is for our safety.


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    May 22, 2013 6:47 PM GMT
    That was just some tough love. According to his bio, Obama had a pretty hectic upbringing himself, and we can still see the discrimination he faces even presently. I think his intention was to empathize and empower, not to insult or minimize anything.
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    May 23, 2013 12:57 AM GMT
    Joeyphx444 saidThere are way more inspirational Black men in the country than Obama


    Your point?
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    May 23, 2013 2:21 AM GMT
    Animus said
    MisfitToy said
    Joeyphx444 saidThere are way more inspirational Black men in the country than Obama


    Such as?


    Pretty much any other person at this point. I'm appalled by the lack of integrity this man has displayed. He campaigned night and day that he would be a president for the people, and that his administration would be the example of transparency. Now that he's in office, all we have are his broken promises and some of the most controversial and possibly treasonous actions and orders given by a president ever. And the only recourse Citizens get, whatever the civil liberty breach may be, is that it is for our safety.



    Uh oh, they gonna call you a south bitch soon if you keep writing stuff like that.

    I thought the part of his speech where he said that "At some point in life as an African American you have to work twice as hard as anyone else if you want to get by" was insulting.
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    May 23, 2013 2:31 AM GMT
    rugbyplayer90 saidA part of President Obama's Morehouse speech really struck a tone with me. Even though the speech was wasn't focused on the gay community I thought was pretty applicable to younger gays today.

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/19/politics/obama-morehouse-commencement

    President ObamaNobody cares how tough your upbringing was. Nobody cares if you suffered some discrimination. And moreover, you have to remember that whatever you've gone through, it pales in comparison to the hardships previous generations endured -- and they overcame them. And if they overcame them, you can overcome them, too,


    Glib. Plenty of people care deeply about the disadvantaged. They're called Democrats.
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    May 23, 2013 2:34 AM GMT
    Joeyphx444 saidThere are way more inspirational Black men in the country than Obama


    But they aren't sitting Presidents. The fact that the guy who is saying this quote is The President Of The United States of America, is why this quote is inspirational. Totally get what you mean. My father, grandpa and several other men are more inspirational to me, in many ways.
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    May 23, 2013 2:44 AM GMT
    Myol said
    Joeyphx444 saidThere are way more inspirational Black men in the country than Obama


    But they aren't sitting Presidents. The fact that the guy who is saying this quote is The President Of The United States of America, is why this quote is inspirational. Totally get what you mean. My father, grandpa and several other men are more inspirational to me, in many ways.


    Being President doesn't automatically make you God. I'd show respect if I met him in public but I wouldn't swoon and gawk over him like a lot of people.

    Geez even Morgan Freeman would have been better. Condoleezza or Colin Powell SAMUEL L JACKSON!!
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    May 23, 2013 11:00 PM GMT
    rugbyplayer90 saidA part of President Obama's Morehouse speech really struck a tone with me. Even though the speech was wasn't focused on the gay community I thought was pretty applicable to younger gays today.

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/19/politics/obama-morehouse-commencement

    President Obama

    Nobody cares how tough your upbringing was.

    Nobody cares if you suffered some discrimination.

    And moreover, you have to remember that whatever you've gone through, it pales in comparison to the hardships previous generations endured -- and they overcame them.

    And if they overcame them, you can overcome them, too,


    Nobody Cares?

    Mr. President,

    In the 1960s, in the Black community--not the one in Hawaii or Islamic Indonesia, our brothers and sisters of Abraham--we know a song sung in Christian Black Baptist Churches in the United States called "God Cares."

    What Black people went through in the 1950s and 1960s, we overcame and got over having zero tolerance for "not caring."

    We read the Bible!

    1 Peter, 5:7
    Give all your worries and cares to God, for he cares about you.

    We sang songs!

    http://youtu.be/r3uDX2II4Z4



    http://youtu.be/7fve4PoR5Zw