Bring back Ken Starr to handle IRS probe?

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    May 23, 2013 3:56 PM GMT
    http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/Keller-Starr-IRS-prosecutor/2013/05/22/id/505798

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    NYT

    http://keller.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/05/21/bring-back-ken-starr/
  • rnch

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    May 23, 2013 4:06 PM GMT
    "Be careful of what you wish for".

    The GOP/TEAbaggers just may not like what is uncovered.


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    May 23, 2013 4:09 PM GMT
    rnch said"Be careful of what you wish for".

    I'm not "New York Times editor Bill Keller said. "

    The GOP/TEAbaggers just may not like what is uncovered.


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    Let's take that chance

  • rnch

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    May 23, 2013 4:51 PM GMT
    Aristoshark saidTrust me, it's not happening. The President is the only one who can name one, and given the bizarre persecution by Ken Starr of the Clintons (which turned up exactly nothing after millions spent). he is not about to voluntarily open that door.

    Dream on, righties.




    quoting the immortal bard: "Much a-do about nothing"
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    May 23, 2013 4:56 PM GMT
    "In August 1994 pursuant to the newly reenacted independent counsel law, Starr was appointed by a three-judge panel to continue the Whitewater investigation. He replaced Robert B. Fiske, a moderate Republican who had been appointed by Attorney General Janet Reno.[11] Although Starr and other independent counsels were later criticized as unaccountable and unstoppable, the statute gave the attorney general and the Special Division the authority to remove an independent counsel"
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    May 23, 2013 4:58 PM GMT
    Aristoshark saidTrust me, it's not happening. The President is the only one who can name one, and given the bizarre persecution by Ken Starr of the Clintons (which turned up exactly nothing after millions spent). he is not about to voluntarily open that door.

    Dream on, righties.


    Is this guy a rightie, leftie?

    "New York Times editor Bill Keller "
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    May 23, 2013 5:27 PM GMT
    btw,

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_prosecutor

    "A special prosecutor generally is a lawyer from outside the government appointed by an attorney general or, in the United States, by Congress to investigate a government official for misconduct while in office. A reasoning for such an appointment is that the governmental branch or agency may have political connections to those it might be asked to investigate. Inherently, this creates a conflict of interest and a solution is to have someone from outside the department lead the investigation. The term "special prosecutor" may have a variety of meanings from one country to the next, from one government branch to the next within the same country, and within different agencies within each government branch. Critics of the use of special prosecutors argue that these investigators act as a "4th branch" to the government because they are not subject to limitations in spending or have deadlines to meet.

    Federal government [edit]

    Attorneys in the United States may be appointed/hired particularly or employed generally by different branches of the government to investigate. When appointed/hired particularly by the Judicial Branch to investigate and, if justified, seek indictments in a particular judicial branch case, the attorney is called special prosecutor.[1] When appointed/hired particularly by a governmental branch or agency to investigate alleged misconduct within that branch or agency, the attorney is called independent counsel. [2] When employed by the state or political subdivision to assist in a particular Judicial Branch case when the public interest so requires, the attorney is called special counsel.[2]

    On January 3, 1983, the United States federal government substituted the term independent counsel for special prosecutor.[3] Archibald Cox was one of the most notable special prosecutors. However, special prosecutor Archibald Cox today would be called independent counsel Archibald Cox in the United States.

    The term is sometimes used as a synonym for Independent Counsel, but under the former law authorizing the Independent Counsel, the appointment was made by a special panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. The Independent Counsels law expired in 1999, and was effectively replaced by Department of Justice regulation 28 CFR Part 600, under which Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald was appointed to look into the Plame affair."
  • tazzari

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    May 23, 2013 5:51 PM GMT
    The IRS "scandal" is about a branch office misbehaving. That's bad, but the responsible person has been fired and an internal investigation, backed by the president is looking into it. It's been handled.

    "Scandal"? The only scandal is the amount of time and hot air being wasted on this that is NOT being spent on job, the infrastructure, GLBT right, Guantanamo - you name it. it's the old magician's trick: keep the eye busy on something else, then pull your trick. Maybe if lawmakers would stop the blame game and get some real work done, we could turn the country around. But I'm not holding my breath.
  • rnch

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    May 23, 2013 6:08 PM GMT
    I don't recall any Congress person demanding an "independent prosecutor" appointed to investigate the War Crimes of President Dubya Bush and Vice-President Cheney.....
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    May 23, 2013 6:08 PM GMT
    tazzari saidThe IRS "scandal" is about a branch office misbehaving. That's bad, but the responsible person has been fired and an internal investigation, backed by the president is looking into it. It's been handled.

    "Scandal"? The only scandal is the amount of time and hot air being wasted on this that is NOT being spent on job, the infrastructure, GLBT right, Guantanamo - you name it. it's the old magician's trick: keep the eye busy on something else, then pull your trick. Maybe if lawmakers would stop the blame game and get some real work done, we could turn the country around. But I'm not holding my breath.


    Plus I abhor the criminalizing of politics. It's always a big risk to either clear it up or possibly find something serious. Something minor, let it go.
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    May 23, 2013 6:35 PM GMT
    rnch saidI don't recall any Congress person demanding an "independent prosecutor" appointed to investigate the War Crimes of President Dubya Bush and Vice-President Cheney.....


    So Patrick Fitzgerald doesn't ring a bell? No, well then how about Scooter Libby?

    and regarding the 911 commission, here you go.

    http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/report/

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    May 23, 2013 6:36 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said.....Something minor, let it go.




    This IRS "Scandal" is indeed minor.

    Let It Go.

    Follow you own advice.

    WHY did you even start this dumbazzed thread icon_question.gif
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    May 23, 2013 6:38 PM GMT
    rnch said
    freedomisntfree said.....Something minor, let it go.




    This IRS "Scandal" is indeed minor.

    Let It Go.

    Follow you own advice.

    WHY did you even start this dumbazzed thread


    News

    http://keller.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/05/21/bring-back-ken-starr/


    Edit: And btw, Watergate break in ... minor ... let it go.
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    May 23, 2013 6:43 PM GMT
    Aristoshark said
    freedomisntfree said
    Aristoshark saidTrust me, it's not happening. The President is the only one who can name one, and given the bizarre persecution by Ken Starr of the Clintons (which turned up exactly nothing after millions spent). he is not about to voluntarily open that door.

    Dream on, righties.


    Is this guy a rightie, leftie?

    "New York Times editor Bill Keller "

    The special prosecutor law was permitted to expire. No more three-judge panels.


    As I posted a few posts above.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_prosecutor

    The term is sometimes used as a synonym for Independent Counsel, but under the former law authorizing the Independent Counsel, the appointment was made by a special panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. The Independent Counsels law expired in 1999, and was effectively replaced by Department of Justice regulation 28 CFR Part 600, under which Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald was appointed to look into the Plame affair.
  • musclmed

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    May 23, 2013 6:44 PM GMT
    rnch said
    freedomisntfree said.....Something minor, let it go.




    This IRS "Scandal" is indeed minor.

    Let It Go.

    Follow you own advice.

    WHY did you even start this dumbazzed thread icon_question.gif


    we do not all the facts to say if it is major or minor.

    What i will say what it has done is drawn bipartisan support for an investigation.

    The hearing yesterday showed that. Its ironic that Obama promised to be a post partisan president. Who would have thought that his administrations ineptitude would unite the congress that was so divided.

    As for the AP/ reporter scandal the NYTimes and Washington Post editorial page blasted the Obama administration for using the espionage act more times than any other president.
    NYT
    Accusing a reporter of being a “co-conspirator,” on top of other zealous and secretive investigations, shows a heavy tilt toward secrecy and insufficient concern about a free press.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/22/opinion/another-chilling-leak-investigation.html?ref=todayspaper&_r=1&
    Its pretty obvious what the theme is. You criticize the administration look for the government to come at you full force.

    Ken Starr would be a bad choice. It needs to have bipartisan support.
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    May 23, 2013 6:47 PM GMT
    musclmed said
    rnch said
    freedomisntfree said.....Something minor, let it go.




    This IRS "Scandal" is indeed minor.

    Let It Go.

    Follow you own advice.

    WHY did you even start this dumbazzed thread icon_question.gif


    we do not all the facts to say if it is major or minor.

    What i will say what it has done is drawn bipartisan support for an investigation.

    The hearing yesterday showed that. Its ironic that Obama promised to be a post partisan president. Who would have thought that his administrations ineptitude would unite the congress that was so divided.

    As for the AP/ reporter scandal the NYTimes and Washington Post editorial page blasted the Obama administration for using the espionage act more times than any other president.
    NYT
    Accusing a reporter of being a “co-conspirator,” on top of other zealous and secretive investigations, shows a heavy tilt toward secrecy and insufficient concern about a free press.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/22/opinion/another-chilling-leak-investigation.html?ref=todayspaper&_r=1&
    Its pretty obvious what the theme is. You criticize the administration look for the government to come at you full force.

    Ken Starr would be a bad choice. It needs to have bipartisan support.


    I think Starr would refuse, but remember, of the 'three judge panel' who picked Starr, two were Clinton appointees and one a Reagan.
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    May 23, 2013 7:00 PM GMT
    No.
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    May 23, 2013 7:01 PM GMT
    msuNdc saidNo.


    Then Patrick Fitzgerald ?
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    May 23, 2013 7:13 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    msuNdc saidNo.


    Then Patrick Fitzgerald ?



    Anyone except Ken Starr. He's too busy filling lawsuits over every little thing about poor Baylor.
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    May 23, 2013 7:18 PM GMT
    msuNdc said
    freedomisntfree said
    msuNdc saidNo.


    Then Patrick Fitzgerald ?



    Anyone except Ken Starr. He's too busy filling lawsuits over every little thing about poor Baylor.


    As I said, real sure Ken Starr wouldn't do it. Last time (Clinton investigation) delayed him several years making it out to Malibu as Dean of Pepperdine Law School. Beautiful place so I'm sure Starr regrets losing those years.
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    May 23, 2013 7:50 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    msuNdc said
    freedomisntfree said
    msuNdc saidNo.


    Then Patrick Fitzgerald ?



    Anyone except Ken Starr. He's too busy filling lawsuits over every little thing about poor Baylor.


    As I said, real sure Ken Starr wouldn't do it. Last time (Clinton investigation) delayed him several years making it out to Malibu as Dean of Pepperdine Law School. Beautiful place so I'm sure Starr regrets losing those years.


    Probably so but he does sure like causing trouble.
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    May 23, 2013 8:42 PM GMT
    msuNdc said
    freedomisntfree said
    msuNdc said
    freedomisntfree said
    msuNdc saidNo.


    Then Patrick Fitzgerald ?



    Anyone except Ken Starr. He's too busy filling lawsuits over every little thing about poor Baylor.


    As I said, real sure Ken Starr wouldn't do it. Last time (Clinton investigation) delayed him several years making it out to Malibu as Dean of Pepperdine Law School. Beautiful place so I'm sure Starr regrets losing those years.


    Probably so but he does sure like causing trouble.


    By doing his job?
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    May 23, 2013 10:23 PM GMT
    Aristoshark saidPepperdine? I thought he was involved with Pepperidge Farm.


    http://www.pepperdine.edu/
  • Webster666

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    May 23, 2013 10:49 PM GMT
    Are you out of your fucking mind ?

    Kenneth Starr was brought in to investigate "Whitewater."
    He couldn't find much there, so he went down a bunch of other dead end streets until he finally found a blow job.