mocktwinkles saidAre you allergic to the word "gay" or something?
Iceblink saidgay
Aristoshark saidNot using the word "gay" is all the thing in right-wing circles now. They've pretty much banned its use on FreeRepublic.com. I'll bet FIF is a regular there.
charlitos saidIs there a thread regarding gay rights that does not turn into a flame war within the first 25 posts?
Aristoshark saidfreedomisntfree saidAristoshark saidNot using the word "gay" is all the thing in right-wing circles now. They've pretty much banned its use on FreeRepublic.com. I'll bet FIF is a regular there.
Actually, I hadn't read that site for years. Thanks for reminding me to get back to it once in a while.
However, I've found another good one for you.
http://startthinkingright.wordpress.com/
Give this a try for a while. You might like it.
It's hilarious. Thanks. Really delusional.
Whipmagic saidIsn't it weird how a good gay kid turns in the eyes of the Boy Scouts into a pervert that must be expelled the minute he turns eighteen?
topathlete saidAristoshark saidNot using the word "gay" is all the thing in right-wing circles now. They've pretty much banned its use on FreeRepublic.com. I'll bet FIF is a regular there.
I don't generally quote Wikipedia, but this is an interesting article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay
The term homosexual is from what I see the only term used by homophobes or those against gay marriage and I always sense a strong negative connotation. Being against the current, generally accepted term often but not always goes along with being against gay rights.
But - there are some who don't like the term gay because they think of some connotations, such as stereotypical and generally false behavior. So whatever floats your boat.
freedomisntfree said
I'm also quite uncomfortable with my grandson being a member in a troop with adult homosexual troop leaders,
Whipmagic saidfreedomisntfree said
I'm also quite uncomfortable with my grandson being a member in a troop with adult homosexual troop leaders,
That's prima fascia evidence for whose side he's on...
Aristoshark saidWhipmagic saidfreedomisntfree said
I'm also quite uncomfortable with my grandson being a member in a troop with adult homosexual troop leaders,
That's prima fascia evidence for whose side he's on...
You seriously doubted which side?
msuNdc saidThe BSA already has policies in place to fight against sex abuse from adults. Openly gay men do not prove to be anymore of a risk than a straight male.
There were 5000 complaints about abuse at one point. That was with only straight males allowed not gay men.
Upper_Cdn saidTo be more precise: the BSA has voted to no longer kick kids out of Scouts for being gay. There have always been gay kids in Scouts; we start in Cubs at about 8 years old, long before we know gay or straight.
The egregious practice is not vetting kids for homosexuality before accepting them, it is the practise of kicking the kids out who have been Scouts for years, for being gay.
Aristoshark saidfreedomisntfree saidAristoshark saidWhipmagic saidfreedomisntfree said
I'm also quite uncomfortable with my grandson being a member in a troop with adult homosexual troop leaders,
That's prima fascia evidence for whose side he's on...
You seriously doubted which side?
someone's pickin sides?
Oh come on, we all know the hit song was on the "A" side.
Did anyone ever actually listen to the "B" side?
calibro saidoh look, a new pocket of stupid opened up in the universe...
MileHighYo saidI wouldn't want to be involved as a leader because there is just too much potential for wrongful accusation. If someone accuses you of rape or molestation, you're going to be perceived as a rapist or molester regardless of innocence or guilt. That's just the world we live in. You really have to CYA, which would be hard under some circumstances.
I have immense respect for my scout leaders from when I was growing up, and I want to be supportive of the organization overall. I advocated for the acceptance and inclusion of gay scouts, and I will for gay leaders when they address that issue in the future. Society needs to change, but that won't happen overnight. I think they will be allowed eventually, but I don't think it's realistic to expect them to embrace it yet. Soon, but not yet.
Meanwhile, I can still be supportive of the young scouts via fundraisers and upholding the overall values that they taught me. It's a good organization. It's just that some overly socially conservative people are trying to use it to further their own objectives while disregarding its less convenient main purposes.
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