'Is lettuce making Americans fat? ' - Obesogens (chemicals known as endocrine disruptors)

  • metta

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    May 24, 2013 2:15 AM GMT
    Is lettuce making Americans fat?

    (The article is not actually about lettuce...but Obesogens)


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    http://newhope360.com/health/lettuce-making-americans-fat?page=1
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    May 24, 2013 5:41 AM GMT
    Sure, and tap water makes french drunk ;-)
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    May 24, 2013 6:03 AM GMT
    maybe not lettuce so much as the number of people who think eating iceberg lettuce will balance out the rest of the crap they eat. Seriously? Get a bag of spring mix, friggen Muricans
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    May 24, 2013 6:08 AM GMT
    The article is from a website selling expensive information about natural food business.
    Like asking the bartender if the wine is good.

    It's the usual mix of true info mixed with false ones and exaggerated ones, in a tone making it looks like definitive and scientifically sound.
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    May 24, 2013 10:12 AM GMT
    metta8 saidIs lettuce making Americans fat?
    No, it's making Americans take a shit.

    Laziness makes people fat.
  • ATLANTIS7

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    May 24, 2013 4:12 PM GMT
    And cucumber makes men gay depending on it's size?
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    May 24, 2013 4:19 PM GMT
    No, cheap fast foods, diners and lack of exercise are making americans fat. I'd say lettuce is the least of the obesity problem...
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    May 24, 2013 4:24 PM GMT
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    minox saidThe article is from a website selling expensive information about natural food business.
    Like asking the bartender if the wine is good.

    It's the usual mix of true info mixed with false ones and exaggerated ones, in a tone making it looks like definitive and scientifically sound.


    I was going to say something similar, the term being "pseudoscience."

    Nevertheless, for some reason, human male sperm counts have been declining for decades, at least in developed nations. Concurrently, the testicular cancer rate has doubled. The exact cause is unknown, but environmental toxins seems to make the the most sense.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/scientists-warn-of-sperm-count-crisis-8382449.html


    Genetically modified foods, particularly GM corn, has been shown to reduce fertility in mice. By the third generation of mice eating genetically modified corn, the mice had become completely infertile.

    http://www.foodfirst.org/en/node/2336

    http://tampa.cbslocal.com/2012/08/04/roundup-herbicide-blamed-for-corn-crop-demise-vilsack-taylor-fda-usda-elizabeth-dougherty-food-nation-radio-network-gmos-pathogen/

    http://www.examiner.com/article/mounting-evidence-that-gmo-crops-can-cause-infertility-and-birth-defects

    http://english.ruvr.ru/2010/04/16/6524765/

    Considering these effects seem to compound over generations implicates that the mass sterilization and subsequent extinction of bloodlines that consume gm corn is only a generation or two away, if left unchecked.
  • Montague

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    May 24, 2013 4:26 PM GMT
    They probably think they can binge eat as long as they have a salad with it. hah
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    May 24, 2013 4:36 PM GMT
    Unintended saidAnimus;

    Thank you. Only the very foolish would believe that pesticides, livestock hormones and antibiotics and GM foods don't have side effects.

    On top of that, the pill-pushing by drug companies compounds the issue.


    No problem, and that point about the pharmaceutical industry is strong too. Instead of treating the causes failing health and illness, we've become accustomed to just managing the symptoms while allowing the underlying cause to fester until the point of no return. It's sad that the lust some humans have for profit has grown to outweigh any concern for true human wellness.
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    May 24, 2013 4:37 PM GMT
    Animus said
    Unintended said
    minox saidThe article is from a website selling expensive information about natural food business.
    Like asking the bartender if the wine is good.

    It's the usual mix of true info mixed with false ones and exaggerated ones, in a tone making it looks like definitive and scientifically sound.


    I was going to say something similar, the term being "pseudoscience."

    Nevertheless, for some reason, human male sperm counts have been declining for decades, at least in developed nations. Concurrently, the testicular cancer rate has doubled. The exact cause is unknown, but environmental toxins seems to make the the most sense.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/scientists-warn-of-sperm-count-crisis-8382449.html


    Genetically modified foods, particularly GM corn, has been shown to reduce fertility in mice. By the third generation of mice eating genetically modified corn, the mice had become completely infertile.

    http://www.foodfirst.org/en/node/2336

    http://tampa.cbslocal.com/2012/08/04/roundup-herbicide-blamed-for-corn-crop-demise-vilsack-taylor-fda-usda-elizabeth-dougherty-food-nation-radio-network-gmos-pathogen/

    http://www.examiner.com/article/mounting-evidence-that-gmo-crops-can-cause-infertility-and-birth-defects

    http://english.ruvr.ru/2010/04/16/6524765/

    Considering these effects seem to compound over generations implicates that the mass sterilization and subsequent extinction of bloodlines that consume gm corn is only a generation or two away, if left unchecked.


    At least one of those studies implicates the glyphosate herbicide for the observed reproductive issues, not the GMO's themselves. It would be interesting to know if the GMO corn used in all these experiments was all heavily dosed with glyphosate and also if these animals were fed diets of exclusively corn. The warnings of these studies should be heeded, but to fix the problem the true cause needs to be identified and we must be careful not to get caught up in unfounded demonization of GMO's.
  • Pyre85

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    May 24, 2013 5:06 PM GMT
    Animus said
    Unintended said
    minox said
    Genetically modified foods, particularly GM corn, has been shown to reduce fertility in mice. By the third generation of mice eating genetically modified corn, the mice had become completely infertile.

    http://www.foodfirst.org/en/node/2336

    http://tampa.cbslocal.com/2012/08/04/roundup-herbicide-blamed-for-corn-crop-demise-vilsack-taylor-fda-usda-elizabeth-dougherty-food-nation-radio-network-gmos-pathogen/

    http://www.examiner.com/article/mounting-evidence-that-gmo-crops-can-cause-infertility-and-birth-defects

    http://english.ruvr.ru/2010/04/16/6524765/

    Considering these effects seem to compound over generations implicates that the mass sterilization and subsequent extinction of bloodlines that consume gm corn is only a generation or two away, if left unchecked.


    Is it messed up that that makes me kinda happy? The world is headed for overpoulation so damn fast maybe we could use a few less virile breeders.
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    May 24, 2013 5:20 PM GMT
    This article is about as unbiased as a gun violence report from the NRA.
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    May 24, 2013 6:43 PM GMT
    There are so many varieties that it could be possible. But here's a great substitute: kale

    Give it a try!
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    May 24, 2013 6:59 PM GMT
    Unintended said
    Nevertheless, for some reason, human male sperm counts have been declining for decades, at least in developed nations. Concurrently, the testicular cancer rate has doubled. The exact cause is unknown, but environmental toxins seems to make the the most sense.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/scientists-warn-of-sperm-count-crisis-8382449.html

    Actually I've seen research that suggests (but hasn't proven) the real culprit for sperm count issues, decreased motility (sperm propulsion or "swimming"), and testicular cancer may be modern male clothing styles. In the form of tight underwear and snug pants. As well as a sedentary sitting lifestyle, things that raise the scrotal temperature, compared to free-balling as Nature intended. Or these may be contributing factors, that could indeed include environmental causes, as well.

    So up boxers, and down balls! icon_biggrin.gif
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    May 24, 2013 11:44 PM GMT
    11 out of 22 hamburguers and wraps (whatever) at McDonalds have lettuce. So there you go: lettuce is actually making not only americans fat, but the whole world!......
  • Whipmagic

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    May 24, 2013 11:49 PM GMT
    dicasu said11 out of 22 hamburguers and wraps (whatever) at McDonalds have lettuce. So there you go: lettuce is actually making not only americans fat, but the whole world!......


    I think you're onto something. It's not the burgers and fries that make people fat, but the few shreds of lettuce on them!
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    May 25, 2013 1:46 AM GMT
    Iceberg lettuce adds texture and moisture. But, it is basically a salad-dressing delivery mechanism with miniscule food value.

    I've switched to spinach or dark leafy greens.
  • The_Guruburu

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    May 25, 2013 5:06 PM GMT
    Unintended said
    In addition, there are other environmental factors having a profound effect on wellness, many of which are ignored by conventional medicine, or scoffed at by many.

    The best example -- computer monitors as a cause of or exacerbating stress, anxiety and insomnia.

    There are many, many others...


    There is a recent Harvard Medical School study suggesting blue light negatively affects sleep and health.
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    May 25, 2013 5:11 PM GMT
    It's the radishes, I tell ya!!! icon_eek.gif
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    May 25, 2013 5:27 PM GMT
    Whipmagic said
    dicasu said11 out of 22 hamburguers and wraps (whatever) at McDonalds have lettuce. So there you go: lettuce is actually making not only americans fat, but the whole world!......


    I think you're onto something. It's not the burgers and fries that make people fat, but the few shreds of lettuce on them!


    who'd have imagined, huh?
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  • The_Guruburu

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    May 25, 2013 7:39 PM GMT
    Unintended said
    The_Guruburu said
    Unintended said
    In addition, there are other environmental factors having a profound effect on wellness, many of which are ignored by conventional medicine, or scoffed at by many.

    The best example -- computer monitors as a cause of or exacerbating stress, anxiety and insomnia.

    There are many, many others...


    There is a recent Harvard Medical School study suggesting blue light negatively affects sleep and health.


    Absolutely. And that is not the first. I use amber glasses when looking at a monitor after 6 pm.

    More people suffer from light-related problems than is commonly recognized because symptoms are sub-clinical, for example winter weight gain or feeling a bit down but not enough for a SAD diagnosis.

    Interestingly, Summer SAD is even less recognized and its symptoms for most less severe: mild insomnia or even seen as positive: mild hypomania.

    However, if anyone have been lucky to be in St. Petersburg, Russia during White Nights, you will see an entire city suffering from insomnia and hypomania.

    And what do they do? Self-medicate with alcohol. I have not yet been there in the Winter but Winter SAD is a major public health issue. And what do they do? Self-medicate with alcohol.


    So, I guess spring is ideal? I hapen to LOVE summer. The weather makes me feel so happy, I could skip all over town!