I can't believe it

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    Oct 28, 2008 2:37 PM GMT
    I'm disgusted to say that the largest contributor to the yes on prop 8 campaign is from Pennsylvania and lives really close to me. Douchebag gave $1 million to the yes on prop 8 people. WTF

    http://www.philly.com/philly/news/local/20081028_Bryn_Mawr_couple_back_Calif__gay-marriage_ban.html
  • EricLA

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    Oct 28, 2008 5:00 PM GMT
    Sounds like a perfect opportunity to egg and TP his house. And maybe put some signs that say "BIGOT" on his front lawn.
  • Heart2Heart

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    Oct 28, 2008 5:14 PM GMT
    I'm still so confused on why people would want proposition 8 to pass. Is is really going to be THAT bad if we're allowed to marry?

    We just want equal rights here people! We're still human. Do we not bleed when we get cut? Do we not laugh when a joke is said? Do we not cry when the government says we're not allowed to marry?

    Yes. Yes indeed.
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    Oct 28, 2008 5:20 PM GMT
    why are conservative religious people always carved to look like muppets? (i've also noticed that their eyes are generally dead - they really do look like zombies... they don't look like they're at peace. they look miserable)
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    Oct 28, 2008 5:24 PM GMT
    Heart2Heart saidI'm still so confused on why people would want proposition 8 to pass. Is is really going to be THAT bad if we're allowed to marry?


    Remember how the world ended with a horrible explosion when MA let gays marry? 'Member how the world burned to a crisp after melting in half when Connecticut did the same thing this last month?

    The world is going to be eaten by zombies and explode again if California lets it happen...again.
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    Oct 28, 2008 5:25 PM GMT
    dancerhussein saidwhy are conservative religious people always carved to look like muppets? (i've also noticed that their eyes are generally dead - they really do look like zombies... they don't look like they're at peace. they look miserable)


    they sold their soul. all that is left is a walking carcass
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    Oct 28, 2008 5:25 PM GMT
    dancerhussein saidwhy are conservative religious people always carved to look like muppets? (i've also noticed that their eyes are generally dead - they really do look like zombies... they don't look like they're at peace. they look miserable)


    It's because some are miserable but remember there are some really good religious folks out there too that truly care about all people no matter what their color, religion, or sexual orientation is.
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    Oct 28, 2008 5:28 PM GMT
    name 10, chizzad (who are well-known enough that everyone can say, "aaaaaaaaah! yeah, you're right..." so no, your mom and her friend from the bridge club don't count)
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    Oct 28, 2008 5:30 PM GMT
    I still find it hard to think that majority has a right to restrict a minority's ability to participate in society and the govenment that they pay for. Seems like this amendment would violate at least the equal protection clause....and if that is violated once, wouldnt the courts find that that nullified the equal protection clause for everybody and that that couldnt be done. Majority rule isnt absolute.
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    Oct 28, 2008 5:35 PM GMT
    i'll start the list:

    desmond tu tu.
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    Oct 28, 2008 5:44 PM GMT
    I know a lot of decent religious people and everytime I think of them I smile. You cant bundle everyone up into one big group, that is called stereotyping. Sound familiar?
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    Oct 28, 2008 5:44 PM GMT
    oh .. it's just another example.. when some_people "know" how others should live their lives .. icon_biggrin.gif Wankers!
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    Oct 28, 2008 5:47 PM GMT
    yep, pretty familiar.
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    Oct 28, 2008 5:48 PM GMT
    Chizzad saidI know a lot of decent religious people and everytime I think of them I smile. You cant bundle everyone up into one big group, that is called stereotyping. Sound familiar?



    for sure, there are loads of amazing religious people that are great and do so much to help others,

    i wish there were more secular organizations that did more to help others.



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    Oct 28, 2008 6:33 PM GMT
    CaslonHussein7000 saidI still find it hard to think that majority has a right to restrict a minority's ability to participate in society and the govenment that they pay for. Seems like this amendment would violate at least the equal protection clause....and if that is violated once, wouldnt the courts find that that nullified the equal protection clause for everybody and that that couldnt be done. Majority rule isnt absolute.


    You are sadly correct, but that prevailing attitude [majority rule] is one that has been promoted by the current administration. When you look backward to the founding of this country, one of the tenants was that the majority shouldn't limits the rights of the minority. This was essential in order to maintain freedom. A purely 'majority rules' approach was known even then to have serious drawbacks and they wrote the laws and structure the government to address this. Separation of church and state is a significant example of this. The problem in the present is that so many of the checks and balances have been ignored, overridden, or even eliminated by the current administration.
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    Oct 28, 2008 7:16 PM GMT
    Chizzad said
    dancerhussein saidwhy are conservative religious people always carved to look like muppets? (i've also noticed that their eyes are generally dead - they really do look like zombies... they don't look like they're at peace. they look miserable)


    It's because some are miserable but remember there are some really good religious folks out there too that truly care about all people no matter what their color, religion, or sexual orientation is.


    i totally agree chad! i look at my own family and think that. my grandparents are really involved with their church and such, and they still call me and invite me to family dinner on saturday. my grandmom is always on my case about bringing boys over to meet her. She just wants me to be happy.

    I don't necessarily believe religion equals hatred, stupidity equals hatred!
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    Oct 28, 2008 7:21 PM GMT
    danielryan saidI'm disgusted to say that the largest contributor to the yes on prop 8 campaign is from Pennsylvania and lives really close to me. Douchebag gave $1 million to the yes on prop 8 people. WTF


    On a positive note, as observed on another Forum thread, Apple Computer has publically stated it is recommending a No on 8 vote and donated $100,000 to the No on 8 campaign.

    And...this appears on the Advocate.com page:

    "...Hollywood producer and real estate tycoon Steve Bing will donate the largest sum to fight California's proposed gay marriage ban from the entertainment industry. Bing will give $500,000 to No on Proposition 8, according No on 8 political strategist Chad Griffin. His donation will also be the largest non-LGBT gift to the campaign...."
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    Oct 28, 2008 8:28 PM GMT
    What I don't understand is why campaigns need so much money. Why not just put the info out in the simplest of terms and let the people make their decisions based on the truth of things.
    If someone came up to me and asked if I would vote for another persons constitutional rights to be taken away, I would probably laugh at them and ask them when they planned to take MY rights away.
    Maybe someone should propose to take another minorities right to bear arms away or a groups right to freedom of religion. Maybe take away some religions right to assemble?
    Maybe these "nuts" need a refresher course on the 14th amendment. It might have been originally pointed at former slaves, but the wording should apply to all citizens.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
  • Delivis

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    Oct 28, 2008 9:24 PM GMT
    FirefighterBlu3 said
    Heart2Heart saidI'm still so confused on why people would want proposition 8 to pass. Is is really going to be THAT bad if we're allowed to marry?


    Remember how the world ended with a horrible explosion when MA let gays marry? 'Member how the world burned to a crisp after melting in half when Connecticut did the same thing this last month?

    The world is going to be eaten by zombies and explode again if California lets it happen...again.


    Canada practically ceased to exist as a country when they allowed gay marriage here.
  • Delivis

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    Oct 28, 2008 9:25 PM GMT
    danielryan said
    Chizzad said
    dancerhussein saidwhy are conservative religious people always carved to look like muppets? (i've also noticed that their eyes are generally dead - they really do look like zombies... they don't look like they're at peace. they look miserable)


    It's because some are miserable but remember there are some really good religious folks out there too that truly care about all people no matter what their color, religion, or sexual orientation is.


    i totally agree chad! i look at my own family and think that. my grandparents are really involved with their church and such, and they still call me and invite me to family dinner on saturday. my grandmom is always on my case about bringing boys over to meet her. She just wants me to be happy.

    I don't necessarily believe religion equals hatred, stupidity equals hatred!


    Very true, the trouble is stupidity and religion often have a large overlap so people paint all the religious with the same big brush.
  • RSportsguy

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    Oct 28, 2008 10:33 PM GMT
    Delivis said
    FirefighterBlu3 said
    Heart2Heart saidI'm still so confused on why people would want proposition 8 to pass. Is is really going to be THAT bad if we're allowed to marry?


    Remember how the world ended with a horrible explosion when MA let gays marry? 'Member how the world burned to a crisp after melting in half when Connecticut did the same thing this last month?

    The world is going to be eaten by zombies and explode again if California lets it happen...again.


    Canada practically ceased to exist as a country when they allowed gay marriage here.


    Don't they allow you to marry sheep or any other animals now since they allowed gay marriage?

    I never understood that argument. "If we allow gays to marry then that would lead to people marrying animals next"!! icon_mad.gif
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    Oct 28, 2008 11:24 PM GMT
    If you don't believe in gay marriage, your choice is simple.
    Don't marry a dude.
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    Oct 28, 2008 11:30 PM GMT
    Ikaros saidIf you don't believe in gay marriage, your choice is simple.
    Don't marry a dude.


    Amen