Behind the Candelabra

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    May 27, 2013 2:10 AM GMT
    Did anyone watch this on HBO tonight? Thoughts?
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    May 27, 2013 2:34 AM GMT
    Rob Lowe is amazing, hilarious.
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    May 27, 2013 3:03 AM GMT
    OK, that was fun, just finished. Yeah, Lowe was positively comical, and Reynolds milked the relatively small role she had.

    Douglas was by turns campy and great. Damon was spectacular, and surprisingly believable as a teen at the beginning. My husband loved the show, too.

    And now... ENCORE!!! It's beginning again, for anyone who missed it.
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    May 27, 2013 3:32 AM GMT
    I had trouble enjoying that; I kept wanting to see Liberace so my brain wouldn't buy the portrayal. Oh well.
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    May 27, 2013 4:15 AM GMT
    Ignoring all above comments as I remembered I recorded it too. Can't wait to watch. icon_smile.gif

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    May 27, 2013 4:36 AM GMT
    theantijock saidI had trouble enjoying that; I kept wanting to see Liberace so my brain wouldn't buy the portrayal. Oh well.

    I thought all the performances were great and enjoyed the show, but I would agree that I didn't 'buy' Douglas in the role, despite doing a very good job.

    That's what makes Meryl Streep such an AMAZING actor; Iron Lady, Devil Wears Prada, Julia Childs - she EMBODIES the roles she takes on.
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    May 27, 2013 4:56 AM GMT
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    theantijock saidI had trouble enjoying that; I kept wanting to see Liberace so my brain wouldn't buy the portrayal. Oh well.

    I thought all the performances were great and enjoyed the show, but I would agree that I didn't 'buy' Douglas in the role, despite doing a very good job.

    That's what makes Meryl Streep such an AMAZING actor; Iron Lady, Devil Wears Prada, Julia Childs - she EMBODIES the roles she takes on.


    I know, that was weird. I couldn't put my finger on what was wrong but I kept saying to myself: this should be better. I also admire Meryl Streep's acting very much. Some people have this thing that pulls you right in. My last bud had it. I could watch him and forget that this was my bud. If I didn't know him, I'd think that acting was him in real life.

    That embodiment might be the issue here. and now that I think of it there was one moment during the show when I thought it looked too studied. Technically very good, just missing that chemistry.

    Sure did bring me back to that era though. And that might have been distracting me too.
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    May 27, 2013 7:16 AM GMT
    I really enjoyed the movie. I, too, thought Douglas did not embody Liberace in two ways: Liberace was more handsome, and he had a wider face. The Douglas portrayal looks-wise was like someone trying to be an Elvis impersonator where you can obviously tell the difference. His face was too narrow. But that was more makeup's fault, not his acting.

    Loved seeing Damon's thighs, especially in the pool straddle scene. I thought the two were awesome in their roles. I will say that it was very uncomfortable watching him as a creepy old man seducing Damon at the beginning.

    Yeah, Rob Lowe was hilarious. How scary, right?

    BTW: Here is the real Scott Thorson

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    May 27, 2013 10:49 AM GMT
    Damn, I missed the first half soI will have to catch it again. Interestingly, I still recall being in Las Vegas in Jan 1987 when the Review-Journal paper (THE major paper there not some rag) there had a front page plea for a "well known Vegas entertainer to seek medical help immediately OR it would publish his name and condition"...I had never seen anything like that before or since!
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    May 27, 2013 11:20 AM GMT
    Wow Thorson is a mess! See too: http://www.rgj.com/article/20130306/NEWS01/303060090/Alleged-ex-lover-Liberace-faces-burglary-charges-Reno
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    May 27, 2013 1:49 PM GMT
    Kwokpot said
    That's what makes Meryl Streep such an AMAZING actor; Iron Lady, Devil Wears Prada, Julia Childs - she EMBODIES the roles she takes on.

    And also an area where some critics complain, that she's doing an impersonation, not acting, being too technical. But then Lawrence Olivier was often dinged for that, too, so she's in good company, and I love her acting myself.

    I'm not sure what else Douglas could have done to look more like Liberace. He certainly had many of the gestures and body English down pat. The voice could have come up half an octave, and maybe a bit more nasal.

    But I remember Liberace as he was on mid-1950s TV, when my grandmother was a great fan, and always watched him. We only had 1 TV set then and she lived with us, so what she watched I watched. When she died in 1959 I never watched Liberace again, so I have only a vague idea how he was during these later years.
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    May 27, 2013 1:55 PM GMT
    With all fairness to Michael, he has made a successful career out of playing characters who look like Michael Douglas. I don't recall him ever playing a character who needed to have his appearance "morph" like, say, Meryl Streep. In order to look like Liberace (ie. a wider face), he'd have to be under a tremendous amount of make-up that would have made him look like The Joker -- and I mean the lackluster Jack Nicholson version.

    As well, Liberace always presented himself as more of a caricature than a character, so while you could say Michael played Liberace "campy", he played him like Liberace played himself.

    I really enjoyed the movie (I saw it as a special simulcast screening at the InsideOut LGBT Film Festival here in Toronto). Oh, and special mention can be summed up in three words: Matt. Damon's. Ass. THAT is a snack pack!
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    May 27, 2013 2:16 PM GMT
    xanadude saidWith all fairness to Michael, he has made a successful career out of playing characters who look like Michael Douglas.

    Very true, and also true of his father Kirk Douglas to a great extent. That's the tradition of the Hollywood Star, who play themselves, rather than the technical actor who immerses himself totally into character.

    In film history there have been few male stars who could or would do that, and not many more women, today Streep being the most well known of them all.

    Still, I gotta give Douglas credit, for tackling a flaming queen, when his own personal image, and his roles, are mostly uber-macho. And don't forget this is a guy who's still battling cancer, I believe, and may represent a very courageous & difficult effort by him.

    This may become Michael's swan song, which ironically Liberace could have played for him on the piano. He's now at the exact same age when Liberace died (67). icon_confused.gif
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    May 27, 2013 2:26 PM GMT
    I thought the movie was entertaining and campy. Hats off to Michael and Matt for putting themselves out for the performances they gave.
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    May 27, 2013 2:35 PM GMT
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    xanadude saidWith all fairness to Michael, he has made a successful career out of playing characters who look like Michael Douglas.

    Very true, and also true of his father Kirk Douglas to a great extent. That's the tradition of the Hollywood Star, who play themselves, rather than the technical actor who immerses himself totally into character.

    In film history there have been few male stars who could or would do that, and not many more women, today Streep being the most well known of them all.

    Still, I gotta give Douglas credit, for tackling a flaming queen, when his own personal image, and his roles, are mostly uber-macho. And don't forget this is a guy who's still battling cancer, I believe, and may represent a very courageous & difficult effort by him.

    This may become Michael's swan song, which ironically Liberace could have played for him on the piano. He's now at the exact same age when Liberace died (67). icon_confused.gif

    Plus the fact that Michael was naked and exposed for many scenes of the movie given his age and physical shape. Then again, how old was Brando when he did Last Tango in Paris?

    This is a movie I definitely wouldn't feel comfortable watching with my parents, especially the scene in the bookstore. Funny thing is I wouldn't necessarily feel that way if it was a sexually explicit film discussing/showing straight sex. I guess since it's more of a direct commentary on my own sexuality, it's more uncomfortable when the seamier sides are discussed in mixed company.
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    May 27, 2013 3:44 PM GMT
    Kwokpot said
    Plus the fact that Michael was naked and exposed for many scenes of the movie given his age and physical shape. Then again, how old was Brando when he did Last Tango in Paris?

    103, and 534 pounds

    Kwokpot said
    This is a movie I definitely wouldn't feel comfortable watching with my parents, especially the scene in the bookstore. Funny thing is I wouldn't necessarily feel that way if it was a sexually explicit film discussing/showing straight sex. I guess since it's more of a direct commentary on my own sexuality, it's more uncomfortable when the seamier sides are discussed in mixed company.

    Well I WOULD feel that way watching a straight sex scene with my parents. And did, when even fairly mild stuff, by today's standards, would appear on TV. We never, ever, ever discussed sexual matters. Just not what my family did, I never got the "talk" from my Father, nothing, not a word ever spoken.

    But would be curious if today's younger guys could sit through this with their parents. Or is it still too personal, too private?
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    May 27, 2013 3:55 PM GMT
    "Matt. Damon's. Ass. THAT is a snack pack!"

    So true.