MoveOn.Org wants to know if they should speak up in support of No On Prop 8...

  • metta

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    Oct 28, 2008 4:54 PM GMT

    please tell them yes...





    http://pol.moveon.org/prop8/in.html?id=14748-1151871-ghFQQ4x&t=1


    Thanks
  • metta

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    Oct 28, 2008 4:57 PM GMT
    Here is the email they sent me:

    (note....I have not included the link to vote no)

    MoveOn.Org
    Opponents of same-sex marriage in California are resorting to blackmail to win.

    Proposition 8 would change the California Constitution to eliminate the right of same-sex couples to marry—reversing this spring's state Supreme Court decision.1 Polls show that the vote on Prop 8 will be very close.2

    Just last week, the Yes on Prop 8 campaign sent a letter threatening to smear the reputations of businesses that have given money to defeat Prop 8—unless they make an identical donation to Yes on Prop 8.3


    We think it's important for MoveOn to step in here—but before we do, we want to make sure that members are on board. What do you think?


    Yes, MoveOn should oppose Prop 8.
    http://pol.moveon.org/prop8/in.html?id=14748-1151871-ghFQQ4x&t=1

    No, MoveOn should not get involved with Prop 8.

    The New York Times reports:

    [R]eligious conservatives have cast the campaign in California as the decisive last stand, warning in stunningly apocalyptic terms of dire consequences to the entire nation if Proposition 8 does not pass.

    California, they say, sets cultural trends for the rest of the country and even the world. If same-sex marriage is allowed to become entrenched there, they warn, there will be no going back.4


    Thank you for all you do.

    –Wes, Joan, Carrie, Mari, Ilyse, and the rest of the team

    Sources:
    1. "Prop 8 Initiative Constitutional Amendment," Official California Voter Information Guide 2008
    http://www.moveon.org/r?r=31289&id=14748-1151871-ghFQQ4x&t=3


    2. "No on 8 lead is eroding in polls," Los Angeles Times, October 23, 2008
    http://www.moveon.org/r?r=31288&id=14748-1151871-ghFQQ4x&t=4

    3. "California gay marriage ban backers target businesses," Associated Press, October 23, 2008
    http://www.moveon.org/r?r=31287&id=14748-1151871-ghFQQ4x&t=5


    "Threatening Letters Spark New Prop 8 Controversy," KFMB-TV CBS, October 23, 2008
    http://www.cbs8.com/stories/story.144185.html

    4. "A Line in the Sand for Same-Sex Marriage Foes," New York Times, October 26, 2008
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/27/us/27right.html
  • metta

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    Oct 28, 2008 5:07 PM GMT
    I just wanted to say thank you for the help guys!!!! icon_biggrin.gif
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    Oct 28, 2008 5:27 PM GMT
    You know a cause is lost when MoveOn gets behind it.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Oct 28, 2008 5:53 PM GMT
    I hope the people of California show their progressive streak by soundly defeating that horrendous proposition 8. Since I don't live and pay taxes in California, I feel that I have nothing to say about the outcome on 11-04-08. I can only hope and pray for defeat of proposition 8.
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    Oct 28, 2008 9:59 PM GMT
    Be glad you don't live here, the commercials we have to put up with are full of lies and show so much prejudice.
  • OutdoorAdvent...

    Posts: 361

    Oct 28, 2008 10:24 PM GMT
    Hey roadbikeRob,
    You can do more than hope and pray that Proposition 8 doesn't pass, you can ask MoveOn to take a stand against it, as Metta8 suggested, and send the organizations working against it money, among them...
    No on Prop 8: http://www.noonprop8.com/
    A lot of out-of-state money from both sides is funding the debate, and its outcome will affect everyone who believes in equality and fairness by the impact the result will have on the national and global debate. Call MoveOn, and get out your credit card.
  • olden

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    Oct 28, 2008 10:38 PM GMT
    If they have to ask which way they should go, they are just holding another Clintonesque Focus Group to determine which option will alienate the lease number of contributors.

    I have more respect for Phelps, who is out there in favor of Prop 8 than I have for MoveOn who won't go one way or the other until they have put their toe in the water to make sure it isn't too hot for them. At least Phelps has the guts to go out there and campaign for what he believes in, just as many of us have been out there campaigning for our beliefs.

    My advice to MoveOn.org is take a stand or move on and get out of my way.
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    Oct 28, 2008 11:00 PM GMT
    samerphxaz saidSorry I don't support Prop. 8. I only support Prop. 102.


    WTF
    is prop 102 just like prop 8 but in arizona? And if you support prop 102 it means gays won't be able to marry in arizona (not that they are allowed now)?

    Are you sure you're gay?


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    Oct 28, 2008 11:00 PM GMT
    samerphxaz saidSorry I don't support Prop. 8.

    Nothin' to be sorry for; nobody but the whacked out right supports Prop 8.

    allgoodinhwood saidBe glad you don't live here, the commercials we have to put up with are full of lies and show so much prejudice.

    How bad are the signs in your area? Over here the nutbags will literally put 5 of 'em in one spot; it's the signage equivalent of screaming louder to make your point. I've actually had to take a walk on my lunch breaks to "thin the weeds."icon_twisted.gif
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    Oct 28, 2008 11:36 PM GMT
    metropolitan said
    WTF
    is prop 102 just like prop 8 but in arizona? And if you support prop 102 it means gays won't be able to marry in arizona (not that they are allowed now)?

    Are you sure you're gay?

    He's basically saying he's pissed that Prop 8 is the one getting all the attention, so instead of drumming up attention and support to help knock down 102 and recognizing that this is a common fight spreading across multiple states (Florida's 2 is another), he's being a Bitter Betty and pissing all over folks who are worked up about 8.
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    Nov 03, 2008 8:33 PM GMT
    From what I hear they have emailed California voters and urged them to vote no?
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    Nov 03, 2008 8:39 PM GMT
    sexysamer_hussein08 said
    metropolitan said
    samerphxaz saidSorry I don't support Prop. 8. I only support Prop. 102.


    WTF
    is prop 102 just like prop 8 but in arizona? And if you support prop 102 it means gays won't be able to marry in arizona (not that they are allowed now)?

    Are you sure you're gay?




    I meant I don't support gay marriage in California. I support NO on prop. 102 in Arizona. Yes, just like prop 8 but in Arizona.



    So you don't support gay people being able to wed in California even thou it would prolly lead to other states following along?

    As a gay Canadian I can only hope that other gay people no matter where they live have the same equal rights I have in Canada.