Best to cut or bulk up first?

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    Oct 28, 2008 5:44 PM GMT
    coz i heard its not possible to build muscle while cutting fat, as building muscle requires calorie surplus while cutting fat requires calorie deficit? any suggestions?
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    Oct 28, 2008 8:56 PM GMT
    I'm still up in the air about this one. Exercise Physiology is still a relatively new science, so things go back and forth all the time. But, I just cut a lot of fat off of my body and managed to build some muscle while doing it. In fact, I'm stronger now (at my new body composition %) than I ever have been. I think that it strongly (no pun intended) depends on micro-managing your dietary intake. This is definitely only my opinion based on my own experience. There are a million and one scientists that would dispute this and a million others that might back me up.
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    Oct 28, 2008 9:28 PM GMT
    I'm sure there are countless conflicting opinions on this issue from people far more knowledgeable than me. Will that stop me from tossing out a theory? Hell no!

    One thing to consider: as you add muscle mass, your basal metabolic rate will increase and you will burn more calories at rest. So it should be easier for you to shed fat after gaining muscle.

    Even if it weren't the case, consider what you wrote: it's generally agreed that it is tough (not impossible, but tough) to simultaneously gain muscle without gaining some fat. So if, as you mention, you want to cut up, you're going to have to do it after gaining regardless, no? icon_smile.gif
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    Oct 28, 2008 9:30 PM GMT
    its really according to what you like yourself to look like more. If you like looking ripped up then I would say cut then add lean muscle mass over a long period of time. If you do not mind the bulky look then I would say go big then cut up since it is easier to add overall mass than it is to add lean muscle.
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    Oct 28, 2008 9:48 PM GMT

    LOL, he's gay, he wants to be BIG and cut! ......the answer is obvious, start stuffin yer face.
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    Oct 28, 2008 9:52 PM GMT
    Uhh... for some of us the only option is to start bulking first. I mean, if I started cutting first, I'd slip through a crack in the floor.

    Which reminds me, time to eat some more.
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    Oct 28, 2008 10:03 PM GMT
    Brady527 saidUhh... for some of us the only option is to start bulking first. I mean, if I started cutting first, I'd slip through a crack in the floor.


    You're looking good...keep it up babe!
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    Oct 28, 2008 10:26 PM GMT
    Think of it this way....everytime you see olympians, such as Mr. Phelps....they are always in great condition physically. And then we hear about their eating habits where they eat anything and EVERYTHING. And yet they are toned and muscular. This is achieved through the right amount of cardio and weight lifting. You can do cardio to cut yourself down and stay down by eating the right foods. By eating the right foods you will also put on mass to your muscles.

    icon_smile.gif hope it helps sir!
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    Oct 29, 2008 5:22 AM GMT
    def bulk up first.
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    Oct 29, 2008 5:35 AM GMT
    I've always heard to bulk up first, then cut.
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    Oct 29, 2008 9:47 AM GMT
    thanx guys... but for me i hate the fact that my fat are hanging at the sides when im dancing topless! hahaha...so i guess if i have to choose i ll get cut 1st then when i reach my ideal bodyfat % then i ll bulk up again the right clean way.....
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    Oct 29, 2008 11:12 AM GMT
    I hate this topic ....

    It's misleading for guys esp guys who are new to working out
    The answer to your question is neither and its both

    Yes, your muscles need food and calories to grow
    but that doesn't mean you can go hog wild on your diet
    to see any muscle gains
    If you're wanting to lose some weight you need to have a clean "healthy" diet
    and you use your workouts to stoke the flames of your metabolism to burn even more calories