'Falun Gong', discriminate against the gay community??!!

  • TommyBeast

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    May 30, 2013 1:16 AM GMT
    A few days ago, along with my new partner who have a strong interest in a kind of Chinese Qigong, 'Falun Gong', I followed online and read some information about it, it was discovered that Falun Gong has a strong hostility and discrimination on us gays, I do not know whether netizens are aware of this?

    The following content and links that I collected from the Internet some of the Falun Gong homophobic remarks, I'm so angry! ! !

    “People's moral standards have been perverted, they've gone through a change, all kinds of other messed-up things have come about, like homosexuality, free love, taking drugs, and all that.”—Zhuan Falun

    http://www.falundafa.org/book/eng/zfl_new_9.html

    "When I talked about homosexuality while giving classes in the West, I said, 'These wanton sexual practices in the West have gotten almost as bad as incest.' Someone then brought up that 'homosexuality is legally protected by the state.'...I told them [the students in the West], 'To be perfectly frank, your government may approve of it, but your Lord does not!' Each time mankind has reached this point, it has in fact been in grave danger and out of control. Now that it has become what it has, if it goes further, what will it be like next?!"-- Zhuan Falun Volume Ⅱ

    http://www.facts.org.cn/Feature/hand/Morality/200904/t90522.htm

    “Repulsive homosexual behavior meanwhile bespeaks of a filthy, deviant state of mind that lacks rationality.” -- Zhuan Falun Volume II

    http://forum.rickross.com/read.php?5,76913,76966

    “If you look at today's society you can see that drug use, drug trafficking, drug making, sex changes, homosexuality, sexual freedom, organized crime, etc., emerge in an endless stream.”-- Falun Buddha Fa Lectures in the United States (April 6, 1997)

    http://psychicfocus.blogspot.com/2013/04/what-is-divineuniverse-take-on-gays-is.html

    Here below is a verbatim record of Li's replies to his followers' questions when he held a Fa-teaching conference in Swiss (Geneva) on September 4 to 5, 1998.
    Question: Why is homosexuality considered immoral?
    Teacher: Think about it, everyone: Is homosexuality human behavior? Heaven created man and woman. What was the purpose? To procreate future generations. A man being with a man, or a woman with a woman—it doesn’t take much thought to know whether that’s right or wrong. When minor things are done incorrectly, a person is said to be wrong. When major things are done incorrectly, it’s a case of people no longer having the moral code of human beings, and then they are unworthy of being human.
    Question: Why is it that homosexuals are considered bad people?
    Teacher: Let me tell you, if I weren’t teaching this Fa today, gods’ first target of annihilation would be homosexuals. It’s not me who would destroy them, but gods. You know that homosexuals have found legitimacy in that homosexuality was around back in the culture of ancient Greece. Yes, there was a similar phenomenon in ancient Greek culture. And do you know why ancient Greek culture is no more? Why are the ancient Greeks gone? Because they had degenerated to that extent, and so they were destroyed.

    http://www.cultnews.com/index.php?paged=6
  • TommyBeast

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    May 31, 2013 12:48 AM GMT
    anyone heard of it?
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    May 31, 2013 12:51 AM GMT
    Never heard of it, but it sounds like you got sucked into something that hates you.
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    May 31, 2013 1:03 AM GMT
    Damn shame. I thought Falun Gong is illegal doing in China. Some of them are tortured and killed in China
  • TommyBeast

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    May 31, 2013 2:34 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidNever heard of it, but it sounds like you got sucked into something that hates you.


    yeah, it sucks me off, and we should suck it back!! gigi
  • TommyBeast

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    May 31, 2013 2:35 AM GMT
    Turin saidDamn shame. I thought Falun Gong is illegal doing in China. Some of them are tortured and killed in China


    and that's the reason to discriminate us gays?

    fuck off falun gong!!!!!
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    Jun 02, 2013 1:33 PM GMT
    TommyBeast said
    Turin saidDamn shame. I thought Falun Gong is illegal doing in China. Some of them are tortured and killed in China


    and that's the reason to discriminate us gays?

    fuck off falun gong!!!!!


    Every year(Sept) they protest in front of The Waldorf Astoria hotel when The UN members in the city
  • TommyBeast

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    Jun 03, 2013 12:45 AM GMT
    let's launch a campaign to anti the evil cult falun gong!!!
  • TommyBeast

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    Jun 03, 2013 2:15 AM GMT
    Turin said
    TommyBeast said
    Turin saidDamn shame. I thought Falun Gong is illegal doing in China. Some of them are tortured and killed in China


    and that's the reason to discriminate us gays?

    fuck off falun gong!!!!!


    Every year(Sept) they protest in front of The Waldorf Astoria hotel when The UN members in the city


    yes and humiliate us gays in many public places!!! fuck them!
  • TommyBeast

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    Jun 05, 2013 3:39 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidNever heard of it, but it sounds like you got sucked into something that hates you.


    have you ever seen them in the street?
  • RJgun

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    Oct 29, 2013 5:46 PM GMT
    Hi Tommy Beast and others!

    I appreciate for your detailed post, however, you have understood things wrongly and I am sure about that. And sorry, if my English is poor.

    “Falun Gong has a strong hostility and discrimination on us gays”

    No. Never. Have you ever seen Falun Gong practitioners holding anti-gay rally or opposing gay marriage/rights? Have you ever seen a single Falun Gong practitioner discriminating or humiliating gay people?

    According to me, a true Falun Gong practitioner will never discriminate gay people or interfere with their freedom/rights in anyway. As a practitioner, I believe that homosexual habit is bad or wrong. But it doesn’t mean that I hate homosexual people. Practitioners would just treat homosexual people just like others. Falun Gong’s main principle in Truthfulness- Compassion-Tolerance and there is no room to develop hatred towards anyone.

    It is just like I believing smoking is bad and injurious to health but don’t hate people who smoke. Many of my friends smoke and drink. But I don’t hate them or interfere their habits. Everyone have rights to live their kind of life (as long as they don’t harm others) and so homosexual people.

    In my opinion, biologically, homosexual habit may not be wrong, but in terms of spirituality, it is wrong and it can affect your spirit and may impede the growth of Gong or energy. To attain the purpose of spiritual practice (like yoga, QiQiong), you need to follow the rules set forth higher plane and not the rules set by the modern people. Rules of higher plane or heaven are constant and it does not change like here. What we think right cannot essentially be right as per the law of higher plane. If you want to get the benefits of spiritual practice, you need to observe the rules of higher plane. Every authentic spiritual practice requires the practitioners to follow strict moral code. Anyway, I am stressing once again that this is my personal opinion.

    Here, I would also like to mention that many religions in the past addressed about sexual desires, sexual immorality. For example in Bible, If a man sleeps with a man as with a woman, they have both committed a detestable thing. They must be put to death; their blood is on their own hands. Leviticus 20:13. It is not just Christianity almost all ancient religion addresses sexual behaviors and sexual desires seriously. If you want to practice spiritual practice like Yoga, QiQong, you need to cut off certain things. Some practice may ask you to stop eating meat, while some ask you to cut off the secular world, etc.

    Tommy, it is really a good sign that you have some interest towards learning QiGong. Practice like QiQong is very different from modern exercises or conventional treatment. Its way of working is very different and it would be hard to understand to believe. But through constant practice and with proper guidance, you can catch up things and you would be able understand and get clear understanding as you proceed with the practice.

    Falun Dafa is really good and it really made me a good person. No Falun Dafa practitioner would treat or any homosexual people different and we don’t have nothing against homosexual people and I am sure about that. I also request you and others to read the Falun Gong books fully to draw the conclusion and not just reading the excerpts posted by some other website. I find some websites intentionally posting contents to malign Falun Gong. If you want to know exactly what Falun Gong is, just read the original Falun Gong book, it is simple!

    Thanks for Reading!