In need of a little advice

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    May 31, 2013 6:25 AM GMT
    I work for transportation corporation in the tri-state area. I originally interned while in college, then was hired as an Entry Level Analyst roughly 1.5 years ago, while the firm itself is large, our department is very small (a team of 7)...recently 2 guys retired and the other abruptly left, leaving us with a team of 4. In these past few weeks, those of us who remain have been evenly splitting the work loads, which has now indirectly resulted in a interesting opportunity. I've been offered a position which would take me from Analyst, to Principal Planner which is 2 steps away from a director (the only people ahead of me would be the Assistant Director, Executive Director then comes the Chief of Planning, which is the head of the dept)

    Today, me and the director went to lunch and he began to explain to me that a situation like this is extremely rare. However, HR along with my colleagues agreed that I would be great for the position, because of my age, knowledge and how I've been handling all the extra work loads (and the fact that everyone else who interviewed just weren't good fits). My director seemed to imply today, he personally feels that I am a bit too young for the position, not in a negative way though. I guess my fake public smiles aren't good enough, cause he somehow seems to know about my depression and other issues without me ever even talking about it. He feels I am qualified for the job and would love for me to take it, but doesn't want me to "throw my youth away", someone "my age" shouldn't be an office from 9 to 7 or sometimes longer etc and that just be a 23-year old's life. Ultimately he's correct about social situation but I honestly, I've been feeling this way for a while. On one hand I look at people my age who seem to not have a care in the world, work with people in their age group, have fun and "Do things young people do" My life consist of sleep, eating, working. Not many friends here, since I went to school so far away and even so, when I'M NOT at WORK, I'm home usually prepping something for work and yes that does get lonely. On the other hand, my salary would DOUBLE, I'd go from a cubical to an OFFICE and for some reason, moving to management also comes with the option of joining a country club that has a corporate account with our company (i'll learn to golf lol).To further complicate things, a contact from a firm we do business with made me an offer, which isn't good as the other one in terms of salary but has a lot of people closer to my age (which could potentially be beneficial).........WHAT SHOULD I DO?icon_confused.gif
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    May 31, 2013 2:59 PM GMT
    I admire that your manager has this kind of insight.

    But, it sounds like a solid job.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelsimmons/2013/05/13/is-the-70-hour-work-week-worth-the-sacrifice/

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505125_162-57585410/how-to-tame-your-work-week/

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    May 31, 2013 3:19 PM GMT
    One thing I've learned in life is decisions like this can't be broken down into 'right' and 'wrong' exactly. Usually it just isn't that clear cut because we never know exactly how things are going to work out. So, we make the decision we make based on our best understanding at the time and then we live with the consequences (sometimes wondering what would have happened had we decided differently).

    From the way you've described this situation, it sounds to me like you want to take this position. Yeah, you're sacrificing some things but gaining others. Personally, when faced with a decision like this, I try to do it with a mindset that regardless how it turns out, I'm not going to have any regrets. No looking back. I know its what I want *now* and so I go for it and if it doesn't work out the way I'd hoped down the line, then I deal with that.
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    May 31, 2013 3:28 PM GMT
    I think great opportunities in life are very rare. I would absolutely take the position being offered by your management.

    They obviously see something special in you, which is a huge benefit.

    The worst that could happen is that you don't enjoy the position, at which point you could leave with a nice addition to your resume.



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    May 31, 2013 3:33 PM GMT
    This sounds like a golden opportunity. I'd say you do it. If it doesn't work out, you can change jobs later, having the increased experience will only be good for your carrier.

    On a different thought. How much do you like your job? Is it fun? If it isn't then the increased hours and responsibilities will drive you nuts. Being that you are already depressed, that would not be a good situation.
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    May 31, 2013 3:44 PM GMT
    bhp91126 saidThis sounds like a golden opportunity. I'd say you do it. If it doesn't work out, you can change jobs later, having the increased experience will only be good for your carrier.

    On a different thought. How much do you like your job? Is it fun? If it isn't then the increased hours and responsibilities will drive you nuts. Being that you are already depressed, that would not be a good situation.


    creyente saidI think great opportunities in life are very rare. I would absolutely take the position being offered by your management.

    They obviously see something special in you, which is a huge benefit.

    The worst that could happen is that you don't enjoy the position, at which point you could leave with a nice addition to your resume.


    Having had a similar opportunity a few years ago, I agree with the advice you're getting: GO FOR IT! I wouldn't have been able to get where I am if I hadn't jumped at the opportunity then. I didn't, ultimately, follow that path exactly, but I used the opportunity to gain experience and add to my resume, and then I moved on after almost two years and finally got the great job I took last November, which is not exactly an evolution of that first opportunity, but those two years were pivotal in getting here.

    Great job, dude . . . keep it up!
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    May 31, 2013 3:50 PM GMT
    This is an amazing opportunity.

    Fucking being 23 and trying to live a life of a 23 year old...whatever that's supposed to mean. I guess he thinks you're supposed to be out, drinking, partying, dating, etc....

    U can still do that. I'm sure you'll have some days off every once in a while, but to double ur salary and get an office? You'd be insane NOT to take this opportunity. you'll be one of the most successful people in ur peer group, no doubt. Who knows where this opportunity could take u in 3 to 5 years...10 years, etc.

    DO IT


  • May 31, 2013 4:07 PM GMT
    Go for it, man! work hard and play hard.

    It is an amazing opportunity, it's fine to work your ass off and then be able to live in a nice place, go wherever you want on your holidays, and start building a life.

    At least where I come from, I see people trying to make their teen years last much more than it should. On the other hand, we can see (even here on the website) a lot of older people who worked hard and now are enjoying it.

    Save some money along the way, and if you ever feel that this was not right, just start over again, with some extra cash on your bank account.
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    May 31, 2013 4:08 PM GMT
    Wow, that does sound like a rare situation, especially at times like this where the problem is with senior employees not retiring fast enough to make room for the intermediate level employees.

    The first question I would ask myself if I were you is: am I really ready for the position? Management-level positions have to deal with the level of problem-solving that require years of experience and solid understanding of not just the company's business but the whole industry as well. Sure, what people learn from their work vary depending on the input of their effort rather than just time, but do you really think you are ready for this new position? Everything may seem right on the paper, but I personally think it is in your best interest to ask around and see some of the difficult challenges the Principal Planner has had to deal with. I feel like a position of seniority like that will be less forgiving for mistakes and poor judgements.

    The second part of dealing with this dilemma is to figure out what you really want to do in your life. I notice a lot of people have said on here that you will be able to do the same things while you work or save them for sometime in the future, but I disagree. There are certain things that are better enjoyed as a youth, and this principal planner position - as implied by the tone of what your director said - sounds like something that will get in your way of going on extended trips and what not. If you are currently under depression, figure out what may be causing/complementing it, and then figure out what you haven't tried that you think might help you cope with your depression. For me, I did a bit more travelling in past year, which gave me a lot of alone time to be away from work, school stuff, family, friends, etc. and strategically determine the best ways to mitigate some of the triggers from depression, all the while enjoying the unfamiliar scenes of the place I was visiting. I feel like travelling is something extremely important to do while you are still young, so that you can apply what you've learned from it in your more mature years.

    All the same, best of luck in your decision making. This sounds like something you should take a weekend off observing it carefully and may be doing a quick research on the position as well. Keep us updated with how it goes.
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    May 31, 2013 9:49 PM GMT
    I think your boss is either insincere for some reason (sorry but I never in my life have seen a boss place an employee's personal happiness over productivity) or he's testing you.
    Maybe he wants to hear you say, "Hell no - I've had my fun and now I want to get serious with my career."
    Never pass up a promotion. You can always change your mind later. Be happy you have a boss who recognizes your superior potential.
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    May 31, 2013 10:16 PM GMT
    Given what you've said it seems like you should take it. My only question would be - do you want to be the director at this company one day ... or otherwise with this company/career long-term? If the answer is yes it's a no-brainer.

    If the answer is not yes, it might require a bit more thought on your part ... but that still doesn't necessarily mean you should say no. Best of luck and what a great situation to be in at your age!
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    May 31, 2013 10:43 PM GMT
    The world waits for no one, the opprotunity can and will change your life and possibly your career path. Ask yourself if you're up for the challenge and if you'll be able to show up and give 100% everday. If the answer is yes......
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    Jun 01, 2013 4:37 AM GMT
    It sounds like a great opportunity, OP. It's true that, in general, great opportunities like this don't come along often in life. But if you've been offered two such opportunities, perhaps you are talented enough to expect many more of them.

    If you like the second company better, you could always tell them, carefully, what you've been offered where you presently work. That bargaining chip could encourage them to make you a better offer.

    What JohnSpotter suggested may not be far from the mark. As an executive who has done more than his fair share of hiring and firing, I can tell you it's likely he was giving you an idea of his expectations of you. He may, of course, also be genuinely concerned with your well-being. But he wants to know if you are up to the task.

    If you decide you want to try, communicate to your director that you know you are young for the position, but you intend to grow into it.
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    Jun 01, 2013 12:53 PM GMT
    After pulling my hair out all of thursday night thinking about it, I maned up accepted the offer yesterday, Thanks for the input guys, truly appreciate it.
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    Jun 01, 2013 12:56 PM GMT
    WrestleMan saidAfter pulling my hair out all of thursday night thinking about it, I maned up accepted the offer yesterday, Thanks for the input guys, truly appreciate it.


    sweet, now u gotta take us all to dinner and drinks....your treat.
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    Jun 01, 2013 12:57 PM GMT
    WrestleMan saidAfter pulling my hair out all of thursday night thinking about it, I maned up accepted the offer yesterday, Thanks for the input guys, truly appreciate it.


    You did the right thing mate. As a transport worker who has battled with redundancy many times, I can say im proud of you.
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    Jun 01, 2013 1:22 PM GMT
    Congrats on taking the position.
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    Jun 01, 2013 1:25 PM GMT
    I am a bit slow...but it is a chance to get started on owning house etc....
    The hours may be long, but if they are getting you somewhere worthwhile then will be worth it.
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    Jun 02, 2013 12:25 AM GMT
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    WrestleMan saidAfter pulling my hair out all of thursday night thinking about it, I maned up accepted the offer yesterday, Thanks for the input guys, truly appreciate it.


    sweet, now u gotta take us all to dinner and drinks....your treat.


    lol you got it.