I want some opinions on these sketches

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    Jun 02, 2013 5:25 AM GMT
    So I've been working with this idea about an Alice in Wonderland story where all the characters are based off of movie monster characters in Victorian Times. I want give off too much of the story but I want some opinions on the sketches. I draw things out as I see them in stage cause they help me write. I was experimenting with some new designs and a twist on my usual style:

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    http://i.imgur.com/zS4WtFF.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/ajAtIhd.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/vlIM6WX.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/a78zwyB.jpg
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    Jun 02, 2013 5:28 AM GMT
    Dang, does she lift weights or what? icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jun 02, 2013 5:37 AM GMT
    xrichx saidDang, does she lift weights or what? icon_biggrin.gif


    That is the idea behind her design yes. Alice is a sort of punk rock 80's style lesbian tough girl despite living in Victorian Times. The monsters seeing as they are shunned from mainstream society are typical chronologically ahead of the humans in terms of fashion and technology.
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    Jun 02, 2013 10:44 AM GMT
    Ah! You can draw!
    Those are really good.
    Can you name the Victorian characters?
    I'll suggest some.
    Mad Hatter.. Oscar Wilde
    Dee and Dum.. Gilbert and Sullivan
    Queen of Hearts.. Queen Victoria
    You have to work Lewis Carroll and Darwin in there somehow.
  • calibro

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    Jun 02, 2013 2:53 PM GMT
    i'd say do some research... you're confusing victorianism with other periods of time.
  • MadeinMich

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    Jun 02, 2013 4:17 PM GMT
    Your faces are creative. They remind me of Tim Burton Princess Bride. The figures or bodies of the characters need a little work. I understand they're just caracatures but they look more like a ten year old drew the bodies. Although, that could be what you're going for.
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    Jun 02, 2013 4:29 PM GMT
    MadeinMich saidYour faces are creative. They remind me of Tim Burton Princess Bride. The figures or bodies of the characters need a little work. I understand they're just caracatures but they look more like a ten year old drew the bodies. Although, that could be what you're going for.

    I agree that they remind me of Tim Burton - creepy in that cartoony way. But I don't think your bodies need much further improvement. It's the style - every cartoon has it's own unique and distinct style. Surely you wouldn't say a show like The Fairly Odd Parents needs to work on the bodies...
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    Jun 02, 2013 4:32 PM GMT
    IceBuckets said
    MadeinMich saidYour faces are creative. They remind me of Tim Burton Princess Bride. The figures or bodies of the characters need a little work. I understand they're just caracatures but they look more like a ten year old drew the bodies. Although, that could be what you're going for.

    I agree that they remind me of Tim Burton - creepy in that cartoony way. But I don't think your bodies need much further improvement. It's the style - every cartoon has it's own unique and distinct style. Surely you wouldn't say a show like The Fairly Odd Parents needs to work on the bodies...


    *nod* they're fine as they are, if that's what you're aiming for, because once they're in motion and there is story and dialogue it'll flesh them out.
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    Jun 02, 2013 4:40 PM GMT
    Nice drawings Isaiah!
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    Jun 02, 2013 5:15 PM GMT
    MadeinMich saidYour faces are creative. They remind me of Tim Burton Princess Bride. The figures or bodies of the characters need a little work. I understand they're just caracatures but they look more like a ten year old drew the bodies. Although, that could be what you're going for.


    The bodies are kind of supposed to have that storybook look so of should look very primary. I tried to be as detailed as possible to get the whole monster vibe across.
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    Jun 02, 2013 5:19 PM GMT
    JohnSpotter saidAh! You can draw!
    Those are really good.
    Can you name the Victorian characters?
    I'll suggest some.
    Mad Hatter.. Oscar Wilde
    Dee and Dum.. Gilbert and Sullivan
    Queen of Hearts.. Queen Victoria
    You have to work Lewis Carroll and Darwin in there somehow.


    Lol actually I already did:

    The first zombie girl you see is Alice.

    The boy on the last page is Lewis Carroll. He's supposed to be like a loner monster otaku fan or whatever the equivalent is. I didn't go into a lot of detail because I had to hurry up and leave. He's actually in the story. He meets up with our heroine after she trades away her fathers estate for humanity.
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    Jun 02, 2013 5:21 PM GMT
    Whoa these are great! Nice going :-)
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    Jun 02, 2013 5:22 PM GMT
    I think it's a fun take on a classic tale. This could get legs.
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    Jun 02, 2013 5:27 PM GMT
    stratavos said
    IceBuckets said
    MadeinMich saidYour faces are creative. They remind me of Tim Burton Princess Bride. The figures or bodies of the characters need a little work. I understand they're just caracatures but they look more like a ten year old drew the bodies. Although, that could be what you're going for.

    I agree that they remind me of Tim Burton - creepy in that cartoony way. But I don't think your bodies need much further improvement. It's the style - every cartoon has it's own unique and distinct style. Surely you wouldn't say a show like The Fairly Odd Parents needs to work on the bodies...


    *nod* they're fine as they are, if that's what you're aiming for, because once they're in motion and there is story and dialogue it'll flesh them out.


    I always really saw it as a stage thing but drawing them helps me write. I can see it being a bomb animated musical. The songs I'm writing for it are like a mix of 80's new wave and classical music. It's taken about 4 years to write the songs.

    Also if anyone is confused in order these are the different classic movie monsters represented also there's some Alice in Wonderland characters and mythological English characters thrown in:

    Zombie
    Cheshire Cat
    Dr. Jekyll and Mr, Hyde
    The Mummy
    Dracula
    The Bride of Frankenstein
    Frankenstein's Monster
    The Creature from the Black Lagoon
    The White Queen
    The Hunchback of Notre Dame
    The Phantom of the Opera
    The Lady of the Lake
    Lewis Carroll
    And although he's not shown Merlin is in the mix as well

    I did one today with Twiddle Dee, Twiddle Dum, a mole person, Sherlock Holmes and a fortune teller character.

    I'm stumped on how to come up with a good Jabberwocky design so if anyone has any good suggestions I'm so open.
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    Jun 02, 2013 5:33 PM GMT
    Ah ha. I didn't see the names there at first because I was surprised that yet another jocker could draw so well.

    I wonder why gay people have a noticeably higher degree of talent.

    (Which reminds me of the ELLEN joke: God made gays so that talented people would not be burdened with children. Ha!)

    Most of the the bodies are fine but (excuse the art lesson you didn't ask for) even simple drawings must look firmly planted in the ground. One or two look like they would fall over. Just a small adjustment.

    These simple drawings are perfectly balanced.

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    It's subtle but these drawings offend my eye. The right feet don't look like they're in the right place to keep the figure standing.

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    Jun 02, 2013 5:36 PM GMT
    JohnSpotter saidAh ha. I didn't see the names there at first because I was surprised that yet another jocker could draw so well.

    I wonder why gay people have a noticeably higher degree of talent.

    (Which reminds me of the ELLEN joke: God made gays so talented people would not be burdened with children. Ha!)

    Most of the the bodies are fine but (excuse the art lesson you didn't ask for) even simple drawings must look firmly planted in the ground. One or two look like they would fall over. Just a small adjustment.


    Which ones? I'm always open to criticism.
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    Jun 02, 2013 5:48 PM GMT
    Lewis Carol and Bride of Frankenstein are going over for sure. icon_wink.gif
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    Jun 02, 2013 5:51 PM GMT
    JohnSpotter saidLewis Carol and Bride of Frankenstein are going over for sure. icon_wink.gif


    Okay yeah definitely. Now that you point it out I see it.

    With the bride I was so concerned about 1: getting her measurements right because I never do and 2: getting her done so I could move onto to her husband that I kind of let her form slip a bit.
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    Jun 02, 2013 7:27 PM GMT
    I know what you mean. If I get a lot of ideas, I try to get them all down in a hurry and then forget that I have to go back to perfect them.
    Here's another piece of imperfect artwork. Someone asked me to Photoshop him but his profile picture was not clear. I tried quite a few bodies but none matched:

    batistar.jpg
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    Jun 02, 2013 7:44 PM GMT
    The rest of the concept art:

    http://i.imgur.com/dTtkREt.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/Z7kbziO.jpg
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    Jun 02, 2013 8:13 PM GMT
    Those are really good and, more importantly, you have a style of your own. Few artists have that and it's what you need to be recognized.
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    Jun 02, 2013 8:21 PM GMT
    Look at Keith Haring. His art work was not even good but he had a unique style that made people want to look at his art.

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    Jun 02, 2013 8:25 PM GMT
    JohnSpotter saidLook at Keith Haring. His art work was not even good but he had a unique style that made people want to look at his art.

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    Ughhh....his art always repelled me!
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    Jun 02, 2013 8:25 PM GMT
    I think you have talent MisFit. Are you going to art school?
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    Jun 02, 2013 8:27 PM GMT
    Harding's art is crap and the same thing over and over again.
    But I love it. It's unique, happy, and exciting to look at. Also, I'm a little color blind so I'm very attracted to bold colors.