Concerning Eating Habits

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    Jun 02, 2013 6:02 AM GMT
    I should begin by stating that some of the fittest people I know (my sister included) emphatically recommend not eating the morning prior to my workout.

    To me, this seems too problematic, as these same people suggest not eating after dinner before I go to bed... That's what? At least 12-15 hours without eating, and I'm starved in the morning to begin with.
    So when I actually do work out, by the end I feel so sick and disoriented and weak, I could vomit.

    Is this normal? And if not, what are some good alternatives to this eating schedule? It's taking its toll on me and I would like fifteenth opinion, so to speak.

    Thanks!
  • calibro

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    Jun 02, 2013 2:54 PM GMT
    if your goal is to be anorexic, then yeah, do what she suggests
  • MikeW

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    Jun 02, 2013 2:59 PM GMT
    Just to make sure I understand, you're not asking about diet and eating habits in general but specifically about whether or not one 'should' eat a meal prior to a *morning* work out. Do I have that right?

    What you've not told us is what your health/fitness level is now and what your goals are.

    However, if you're feeling depleted prior to and nauseous after your morning workout, *you* (regardless of what other 'fit' people might say) most likely *should* eat before your workout. Your body type may be completely different from your sister's or any other 'fit' person you know. Most likely you should be eating a portion of protein (meat, eggs, why shake, etc.) and a portion of complex carbs for fuel, probably about 1 hour prior to your workout.

    There are all kinds of guidelines for what to do out there in the 'fitness' world. The problem is although we're all alike in many ways, we're also all quite different, especially in terms of our current fitness level, goals, metabolism, genetics, so on and so forth. Each of us has to learn the basics about nutrition and working out and then we each need to experiment to find what works best *for us*. So, experiment with your morning routine. What works better *for you* eating or not eating prior to your workout? Maybe *for you* it needs to be more simple carbs rather than complex ones because your body needs that energy spike. Or maybe not! Only you can tell through experimentation.


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    Jun 02, 2013 11:14 PM GMT
    You got it right bro. And thanks so much for your input guys, it helps a lot.
    My sister and I share a German heritage... That being said, anything we eat goes immediately to our ass. Some days, I just fast and don't eat anything if
    othing nutritious is immediately available.
    I also cannot eat any carbs or anything with even the smallest amount of gluten as my body cannot process it properly, according to my nutritionist.

    As for my fitness level... Is "pear-shaped" an appropriate answer?


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    Jun 03, 2013 1:30 AM GMT
    Ajjax saidYou got it right bro. And thanks so much for your input guys, it helps a lot.
    My sister and I share a German heritage... That being said, anything we eat goes immediately to our ass. Some days, I just fast and don't eat anything if
    othing nutritious is immediately available.
    I also cannot eat any carbs or anything with even the smallest amount of gluten as my body cannot process it properly, according to my nutritionist.

    As for my fitness level... Is "pear-shaped" an appropriate answer?

    I think a few of us on RJ started as pear-shaped. Welcome to RJ. You may be making the same mistakes I have made. Germin/Irish/Scott if it helps.

    We set ourselves back when we randomly fast. You train your body to conserve energy instead of consuming energy. Consistent daily calorie/carb intake helped me significantly, along with cutting out wheat products to a point.

    http://www.amazon.com/Flat-Belly-Diet-Men-Vaccariello/dp/B005FOEMIW

    I have learned that I get impatient with the diet progress and cut back on complex carbs. But, I need to eat a substantial lunch on workout day to have energy at 5pm at the gym. Worst case, I have few nausea problems if I eat at least 60 to 90 minutes before I work with a trainer.

    The first time I tried the Paleo diet, the "GU" energy gel packets you find at a sports stores helped give me a temporary energy boost. May have discovered my coffee habit with no-cal sweetner can actually cause drowsiness unless I substitute real sugar.
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    Jun 03, 2013 4:30 AM GMT
    I'm a total nerd - when I saw the title of your thread, the first thing I thought of was "Concerning Hobbits," a chapter from "Lord of the Rings." icon_lol.gif

    Anyway, on to your question...

    I've always been skeptical about that "don't eat after dinner" advice. Maybe it would hold true if you ate dinner at 6:00 and went to bed around 9:00, but for most people, they would be mighty uncomfortable going without food for 5 or 6 hours in an evening. From what I've read, that advice isn't completely true anyway, and in some cases, counter-productive. It's better to eat a small healthy snack in the evening than starve yourself.

    If you work out in the morning, do what feels right for you. If exercising on an empty stomach makes you feel weak or unwell, don't do it. Maybe eat an apple, some crackers or make a smoothie beforehand... something to get a little fuel in your system.

    Listen to your body - if you are hungry, eat something because you'll probably get a better (and safer) workout if you don't feel like you're about to pass out. icon_smile.gif
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    Jun 03, 2013 6:27 PM GMT
    Daily calories matter. When you eat them (no carbs after 6pm .. etc) doesn't matter. However in order to get benefit of your calories would be to have them mostly around your workout. Preferable get most cals after your wo. What macros in your cals? depends on what your wo is like and your goals.

    As for not eating in the morning, if you are the type that feels hungry in the morning then by all means eat. If you are like me, who isnt hungry in the morning, then you could skip breakfast.

    This protocol, called 'Intermittent Fasting' has been popularized by Martin Berkhan in recent years. www.leangains.com You dont actually workout on an empty stomach. He recommends BCAA prior a workout, if you are working out in the morning. Or 1-2 meals prior workout in your workout in the evening. See that site for his recommendations.