why do gay men base their tastes off stereotypes/models?

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    Jun 02, 2013 8:02 AM GMT
    for example this thread about arab men: http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/809132

    LOL, these guys are models or the pictures have undergone heavy editing to the point that they look perfect. Why no candid pics of Arabs? Lol, even the pics of the exiled prince have been heavily done to make him look absolutely perfect.

    even the blonde thread.... umm,no. full of photoshoped pics. the average blonde looks like simon pegg and is not hot.
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    Jun 02, 2013 11:14 AM GMT
    Because models are hotter.
  • calibro

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    Jun 02, 2013 2:58 PM GMT
    umm... welcome to society at large?
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    Jun 02, 2013 3:05 PM GMT
    Because those images are easily googlable and the ones which appear in searches first.
  • HottJoe

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    Jun 02, 2013 3:07 PM GMT
    Don't straight men do the same thing?icon_confused.gif
  • Generaleclect...

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    Jun 02, 2013 3:12 PM GMT
    Because we mistake pretty pictures for reality. This is why people think "all Brazilians are hot."
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    Jun 02, 2013 3:23 PM GMT
    I find myself far more attracted to real guys then models to be honest.

    Then again, I also find blue eyes creepy and find brown eyes super attractive.
  • rdberg1957

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    Jun 02, 2013 3:24 PM GMT
    Partially because gay men grow up in isolation, not knowing anyone else who is gay when they are kids. Sexuality is then totally based on fantasy rather than real people.
  • HottJoe

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    Jun 02, 2013 3:27 PM GMT
    Generaleclectic saidBecause we mistake pretty pictures for reality. This is why people think "all Brazilians are hot."


    I always hear that, and then I see pictures of hot Brazilian men, which seem to confirm it.icon_neutral.gificon_razz.gif
  • MikeW

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    Jun 02, 2013 3:30 PM GMT
    It's sort of like asking, "Why do people ask stupid questions?" or "Why are people attracted to glitz and not substance?" or "Why can't everyone just get along?" or "Why don't other people behave the way I want them to?" Etc., etc.

    The difference being these questions didn't begin with the presumption that being "gay" has anything to do with it.
  • Generaleclect...

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    Jun 02, 2013 3:39 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    Generaleclectic saidBecause we mistake pretty pictures for reality. This is why people think "all Brazilians are hot."


    I always hear that, and then I see pictures of hot Brazilian men, which seem to confirm it.icon_neutral.gificon_razz.gif


    Still skewed toward the hot ones, but yeah, I am saving up to go to the 2016 Olympics for a reason. icon_razz.gif
  • wesv

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    Jun 02, 2013 5:01 PM GMT
    Studies prove that people, especially men of all orientations, become stupid when they see something sexy.
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    Jun 02, 2013 5:19 PM GMT
    more attracted to people i see in everyday life
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    Jun 02, 2013 5:22 PM GMT
    Im pretty sure women ask the same question about straight men. I mean if straight guys didn't base off stereotypes/models either Victoria Secret angels, annual Victoria Secret fashion show and Kate Upton would cease to exist.
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    Jun 02, 2013 5:30 PM GMT
    rdberg1957 saidPartially because gay men grow up in isolation, not knowing anyone else who is gay when they are kids. Sexuality is then totally based on fantasy rather than real people.


    This is basically it. What men did I ever meet as a child? My father & relatives (the plain ones) and television stars (the beautiful ones). Television stereotypes were/are rampant. What, not all men look like Lee Majors? Look at the children in One Direction, carefully selected to appeal to nearly every under-14 girl demographic (I'm pretty sure that's only one demographic). I can imagine those girls won't entertain much diversity when they begin dating.

    MikeW saidThe difference being these questions didn't begin with the presumption that being "gay" has anything to do with it.


    Right. This is a pop-cultural effect, independent of gender or orientation.
  • TannerMasseur

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    Jun 02, 2013 5:30 PM GMT
    We epitomize the ideal archetypes, goes back to classical Greece, kouros sculptures with ideal male torsos & aquiline profiles thru the Renaissance with da Vinci's perfectly proportioned Vitruvian Man & Michelangelo's ignudos to the present with silver screen leading man idols like Valentino to full color archetypes like Clint Walker, Chris Evans, Henry Cavill.....
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    Jun 02, 2013 5:38 PM GMT
    why do gay men base their tastes off stereotypes/models?

    maybe because they're gay...
  • mobieus

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    Jun 02, 2013 5:51 PM GMT
    Generaleclectic said
    HottJoe said
    Generaleclectic saidBecause we mistake pretty pictures for reality. This is why people think "all Brazilians are hot."


    I always hear that, and then I see pictures of hot Brazilian men, which seem to confirm it.icon_neutral.gificon_razz.gif


    Still skewed toward the hot ones, but yeah, I am saving up to go to the 2016 Olympics for a reason. icon_razz.gif


    The fact is that white boys love Brazilians its something exotic to them and we see this in the media every single day and Brazilians love themselves even more . I notice there is also a big turn toward men of colour in the media . Does this make them hot ? Yes i guess it does i would say popular . But for me to be honest i think all ethnicities can be equally hot !! the very thought of the Segregation of this is rather stupid . Also we havent even skimmed the topic of what is beautiful or ugly .
  • Montague

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    Jun 02, 2013 5:59 PM GMT
    MOBIEUS said
    Generaleclectic said
    HottJoe said
    Generaleclectic saidBecause we mistake pretty pictures for reality. This is why people think "all Brazilians are hot."


    I always hear that, and then I see pictures of hot Brazilian men, which seem to confirm it.icon_neutral.gificon_razz.gif


    Still skewed toward the hot ones, but yeah, I am saving up to go to the 2016 Olympics for a reason. icon_razz.gif


    The fact is that white boys love Brazilians its something exotic to them and we see this in the media every single day and Brazilians love themselves even more . I notice there is also a big turn toward men of colour in the media . Does this make them hot ? Yes i guess it does i would say popular . But for me to be honest i think all ethnicities can be equally hot !! the very thought of the Segregation of this is rather stupid . Also we havent even skimmed the topic of what is beautiful or ugly .


    are you talking the whiter skinned brazilians or the darker ones? icon_surprised.gif
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    Jun 02, 2013 6:24 PM GMT
    Not all gay men.. just people in general. The media is a very strong control tool and most people unfortunately fall for it. Be it fashion mags or even the news.
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    Jun 02, 2013 6:33 PM GMT
    MOBIEUS said
    Generaleclectic said
    HottJoe said
    Generaleclectic saidBecause we mistake pretty pictures for reality. This is why people think "all Brazilians are hot."


    I always hear that, and then I see pictures of hot Brazilian men, which seem to confirm it.icon_neutral.gificon_razz.gif


    Still skewed toward the hot ones, but yeah, I am saving up to go to the 2016 Olympics for a reason. icon_razz.gif


    The fact is that white boys love Brazilians its something exotic to them and we see this in the media every single day and Brazilians love themselves even more . I notice there is also a big turn toward men of colour in the media . Does this make them hot ? Yes i guess it does i would say popular . But for me to be honest i think all ethnicities can be equally hot !! the very thought of the Segregation of this is rather stupid . Also we havent even skimmed the topic of what is beautiful or ugly .


    Well Really Brazillian is not a race, you can t look brazillian anymore than you can look American
  • BloodFlame

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    Jun 02, 2013 7:05 PM GMT
    The answer to that is pretty much rooted in what everyone else said. The multimedia of the world is what gives us the image of these guys. Not that there's anything wrong with them. I mean, why should you feel ashamed in finding a model attractive? We all have different tastes.

    But I do think it can get out of hand if the guy expects every guy he talks to, to look like the models in magazines/tv. I think you would set yourself up for failure unless you were "equally" good looking as them.

    Honestly, while I do enjoy looking at some of the handsome by default models/men that the media spews out, I like normal guys too, especially the ones who take of themselves. Same with race, I don't find one better then the other. I find beauty in all of them and I love diversity.

    The way I see it. It's like this. I have a thing for bodybuilders. However, I'm not attracted to the ones on the fitness magazines and competitions (the whole ultra defined, vein look). I'm much more attracted to the off season bodybuilder. While people like both types, a big lot would want to go for the vein/ultra defined one. Also with face. Sure, I can admit when I guy has a nice face like take... Hmm... I can't think of a good example of who to use at the moment. lol I guess Brad Pitt. All girls and a lot of gay guys find him incredibly handsome and sexy. I do think he is handsome but I'm more into someone like Taylor Lautner (I've used this example a lot I realize lol). I think the point I'm trying to convey is that I don't necessarily look for perfection. I think a guy with a bigger nose isn't "ugly" or a guy with brown eyes looks dull.

    Anyway, I rambled. Back to the question, it's really just the media. This is especially impressionable on kids and teenagers like how Mickey said.
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    Jun 02, 2013 7:08 PM GMT
    Humans are attracted to ideals.

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    Jun 02, 2013 7:47 PM GMT
    Photography as a medium can work this for any object it frames. It's a static one-dimensional representation which makes it easy for human consciousness to absorb easily. Combine that with mass distribution that crowds out less prolific imagery and whatever social drama is prevailing as a weak spot (like america as a decaying idea so the fetish is its opposite: hyper masculinity) and there's your cover photo for "men's fitness".
  • TannerMasseur

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    Jun 02, 2013 7:50 PM GMT
    spgem saidWe epitomize the ideal archetypes, goes back to classical Greece, kouros sculptures with ideal male torsos & aquiline profiles thru the Renaissance with da Vinci's perfectly proportioned Vitruvian Man & Michelangelo's ignudos to the present with silver screen leading man idols like Valentino to full color archetypes like Clint Walker, Chris Evans, Henry Cavill.....


    We objectify ideals .....