Hollywood and Jewish descent

  • beaujangle

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    Jun 03, 2013 11:15 AM GMT
    This is interesting; I didn't realise that many of them have Jewish blood

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    Jun 03, 2013 11:43 AM GMT
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    Jun 03, 2013 11:45 AM GMT
    This thread has much potential for trolling, lulz, fail, and anti-semitism... (note the title of the movie clip, "Hollywood Jewish Control").
  • shawn06

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    Jun 03, 2013 11:50 AM GMT
    WHAT? Fran was Jewish?

    Oh and Robert De Niro is not Jewish, that's the only one I can point out for sure. I'm not just saying that because he is Italian, here is a link discussing his heritage http://www.jewornotjew.com/profile.jsp?ID=99
  • beaujangle

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    Jun 03, 2013 11:58 AM GMT
    AlphaTrigger saidThis thread has much potential for trolling, lulz, fail, and anti-semitism... (note the title of the movie clip, "Hollywood Jewish Control").


    Sorry, this is not intended
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    Jun 03, 2013 12:09 PM GMT
    beaujangle said
    AlphaTrigger saidThis thread has much potential for trolling, lulz, fail, and anti-semitism... (note the title of the movie clip, "Hollywood Jewish Control").
    Sorry, this is not intended
    You posted a "Jews control Hollywood" conspiracy theory video. What did you expect?
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    Jun 03, 2013 12:11 PM GMT
    Jewish blood? Is there Christian blood or Buddhist blood too? Judaism is a religion.

    Entertainment industry was in the Christian West slighted for a long time; until the nineteenth century, actors often did not receive a Christian burial and were deemed forever condemned. The film industry and Hollywood filled an employment niche for non-Christians, which in the late nineteenth century and early twentieth century meant persons of Jewish ancestry (in terms of religious background since orthodox Jews were equally against the dramatic arts especially any production in which male Jewish men over the age of 13 could see a woman perform on stage or sing).

    Today, in the USA there are actors and actresses from many demographic backgrounds, including those whose ancestors were devout Jews.
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    Jun 03, 2013 12:59 PM GMT
    Sam54 saidJewish blood? Is there Christian blood or Buddhist blood too? Judaism is a religion.




    The term "Jewish" may refer both to an adherent of Judaism (the religion) and to one's ethnic identity as a Jew (the demonym).

    Linguistically, the term derives from the religion and ethnicity of the Tribe (and later Kingdom) of Judah, which along with the Tribe of Levi outlasted the Northern Kingdom of Israel.

    The tribes of the northern kingdom of Israel were absorbed by the Assyrian Empire some time in the 7th century BCE and most of that population likely adopted the pagan religions of their captors, as they had already largely rejected the worship of YHWH centered in Jerusalem in the Kingdom of Judah.

    Judah was itself absorbed by the Babylonian Empire about 150yrs after (Northern) Israel was dissolved, and subsequently restored as a satrapy of the Medo-Persian Empire that succeeded Babylon.

    Hence the "staying power" of the word "Jew" and its related terms.
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    Jun 03, 2013 1:47 PM GMT
    The notion of Jewish control of Hollywood has some basis in fact. During Hollywood's Golden Age (1930-40s) most of Hollywood's major studios were owned and/or managed by Jews. How this came about is complex, going back to when the film industry began in New York City (thanks both to Thomas Edison and the Broadway theatre) but later migrating to Hollywood for the weather and open spaces, a subject for another post.

    So that many film project & production decisions were made by Jews. But the creative talent was largely non-Jewish - the directors, writers, actors, film editors, set & costume designers, lighting, etc. And especially with actors, who had to look, act & speak like their audiences, to relate & identify with them, have a personal bio that would sell in Kansas, to develop the star power and loyal fan following that was a vital part of the box office formula.

    It seems the Jewish film executives chose to hire talent & drawing power before any other consideration. And so while the "front office" may have been dominated by Jews, the movie sets were not. (I note, however, that many of the greatest film score composers, and many of my own personal favorites, were Jewish, and naturally there were individual exceptions throughout the movie crafts).

    Therefore who really controlled Hollywood? Those holding the pursestrings, or those actually making the movies? Obviously both had influence, but if "control" means the finished product that appeared on movie screens, I'd say the creative people had the edge.

    Today the old studio system is dead, plus television has become its own field with a different dynamic. Especially in acting, talent today seems more to percolate from the bottom up, rather than be recruited, "discovered" and promoted from the top down. Hence the old Hollywood models are obsolete, although that former image of Jewish control persists to this day. And if today you can name Jewish actors & entertainers, I think it has less to do with any Hollywood insider system than with individual ambition & talent.
  • calibro

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    Jun 03, 2013 1:49 PM GMT
    you do realize half those people aren't jewish?
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    Jun 03, 2013 3:36 PM GMT
    Is this really about Jewish stars or are yellow Magen Davids back in fashion?

    My family has been in entertainment continuously since Vaudeville before talkies including my line dancing grandma, a hall of famer, an Oscar and some Emmies, oh, and a minor role as one of the founders of ASCAP. Yes, all my family is Jewish. So fucking what. It's just a job like anything else. If we could dribble a basketball, we'd be doing that instead. But if I hear of any internal conversation about controlling the masses, I'll be sure to let you know.

    This is supposed to be about control? News flash: it's only entertainment. I don't believe this shit. I fucking hate this site sometimes. And while not denying any propaganda value to the biz at all (certainly during times of war) and my family was involved in the production of some enduring and endearing Americana out of that--mostly it doesn't direct but reflects society. Where do you suppose all their inspiration is from: the gentiles, haha. We find you people fascinating.

    Meanwhile, hey, Mr. Beaujangles. Do us a favor, Dance!

    Oh look, a non jewish guy exerting mind control over his audience....

    Quick, someone sew a star on front his shirt so we know to keep a suspicious eye on him.
  • SomeSiciliano...

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    Jun 03, 2013 3:39 PM GMT

    There is a good documentary called something like 'How the Jews Created Hollywood' based Neal Gabler's book 'An Empire of Their Own'.

    In a nutshell he claims that the film industry of the 1920s was the internet of the 1990s. Institutionalized antisemitism in the US limited access to traditional professions like finance, medicine and law. Jewish immigrants from Eastern Europe embraced this new medium of film entertainment, first in Chicago and later in Hollywood. So yea....there is a strong correlation between entertainment and people of Jewish descent....but has more to do with sociology than conspiracy.

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    SomeSicilianoGuy said
    There is a good documentary called something like 'How the Jews Created Hollywood' based Neal Gabler's book 'An Empire of Their Own'.

    In a nutshell he claims that the film industry of the 1920s was the internet of the 1990s. Institutionalized antisemitism in the US limited access to traditional professions like finance, medicine and law. Jewish immigrants from Eastern Europe embraced this new medium of film entertainment, first in Chicago and later in Hollywood. So yea....there is a strong correlation between entertainment and people of Jewish descent....but has more to do with sociology than conspiracy.

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    Obito Uchiha
    Obito Uchiha 2 months ago
    I hate that the Jews are brainwashing the youths to believe the holocaust BS.

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    Iraelive 1 month ago
    maybe you guys will understand us germans a bit more now.you know what i mean.
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    Illyripower1
    Illyripower1 1 week ago
    why all the people hated , hates and will hate the jews ???? there is a reason !
    They are evil people !


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    Jun 03, 2013 4:57 PM GMT
    This topic is nothing but pure, unadulterated anti-semitism. The next time someone tries to convince you the Jews are taking over and must be suppressed or exterminated, bear in mind the facts about the world populations of various religions:

    Christian 33.39%
    Muslim 22.74%
    Other 10.95%
    Hindu 10.8%
    Non-religious 9.66%
    Buddhist 6.77%
    Ravidassia 2.80%
    Atheist 2.01%
    Sikh 0.35%
    Jewish 0.22%
    Baha'i 0.11%

    EDIT: Don't feel left out if your faith/lack of faith isn't included. I didn't create the categories -- just reported them. (Source: The CIA's World Factbook)
  • HottJoe

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    Jun 03, 2013 5:01 PM GMT
    shortbutsweet saidThis topic is nothing but pure, unadulterated anti-semitism. The next time someone tries to convince you the Jews are taking over and must be suppressed or exterminated, bear in mind the facts about the world populations of various religions:

    Christian 33.39%
    Muslim 22.74%
    Other 10.95%
    Hindu 10.8%
    Non-religious 9.66%
    Buddhist 6.77%
    Ravidassia 2.80%
    Atheist 2.01%
    Sikh 0.35%
    Jewish 0.22%
    Baha'i 0.11%


    Let's see if we can get that number up to 10!
  • Laurence

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    Jun 03, 2013 5:06 PM GMT
    Aren't Non-religious and Atheist the same thing?

    If so, we're already over 10.

    Loz
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    Jun 03, 2013 5:13 PM GMT
    ART_DECO saidThe notion of Jewish control of Hollywood has some basis in fact. During Hollywood's Golden Age (1930-40s) most of Hollywood's major studios were owned and/or managed by Jews. How this came about is complex, going back to when the film industry began in New York City (thanks both to Thomas Edison and the Broadway theatre) but later migrating to Hollywood for the weather and open spaces, a subject for another post.

    So that many film project & production decisions were made by Jews. But the creative talent was largely non-Jewish - the directors, writers, actors, film editors, set & costume designers, lighting, etc. And especially with actors, who had to look, act & speak like their audiences, to relate & identify with them, have a personal bio that would sell in Kansas, to develop the star power and loyal fan following that was a vital part of the box office formula.

    It seems the Jewish film executives chose to hire talent & drawing power before any other consideration. And so while the "front office" may have been dominated by Jews, the movie sets were not. (I note, however, that many of the greatest film score composers, and many of my own personal favorites, were Jewish, and naturally there were individual exceptions throughout the movie crafts).

    Therefore who really controlled Hollywood? Those holding the pursestrings, or those actually making the movies? Obviously both had influence, but if "control" means the finished product that appeared on movie screens, I'd say the creative people had the edge.

    Today the old studio system is dead, plus television has become its own field with a different dynamic. Especially in acting, talent today seems more to percolate from the bottom up, rather than be recruited, "discovered" and promoted from the top down. Hence the old Hollywood models are obsolete, although that former image of Jewish control persists to this day. And if today you can name Jewish actors & entertainers, I think it has less to do with any Hollywood insider system than with individual ambition & talent.



    What is weird is that Billy Wilder would completely disagree with this . He felt marginalized for being Jewish.
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    Jun 03, 2013 5:19 PM GMT
    beaujangle saidThis is interesting; I didn't realise that many of them have Jewish blood



    This is old news. Everyone knows Hollywood is Jew Central. The repetitive images in majority of the movies and tv shows reflect Jewish agenda's,
    1) Jews are Caucasians
    2) Everyone else isn't
    3) WASPS are only happy if they marry Jews (wishful thinking) exemplified in Charlotte's decision in sex and the city
    4) little to None middle eastern representation because we can't have people sympathizing with the middle easterners.
    5) My favorite one, minimize coverage of what most people in Israel look like because we can only view Jews on TV to be as similar to Caucasians as possible.
    6) Market the image of beauty to be as white as possible because the majority of Jews look up to Caucasian features as the image of beauty. (But this makes sense because if come from an ethnicity that was targeted and segregated in Germany for looking different you would look up to your captors features as superior ones.

    Its not right or wrong just a reflection of the powers in charge's perceptions.



  • TroyAthlete

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    Jun 03, 2013 5:22 PM GMT
    Laurence saidAren't Non-religious and Atheist the same thing?


    No. There are plenty of theists who don't subscribe to any specific religion.
  • thatirishbast...

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    Jun 03, 2013 5:24 PM GMT
    Yes, and my mother's people, the gypsies, control oil, blood diamonds, Apple, and Old Navy, and we were the defining force behind the success of both Oprah and Beanie Babies.
    And despite this, we're all permanently depressed because 1. We're not white, 2. the Porajmos, 3. The only Disney film featuring gypsies had Jason Alexander in it.
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    Jun 03, 2013 5:31 PM GMT
    It's quaint that in 2013 some people still use the term "blood" as a synonym for DNA/genes/genetic code.
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    Jun 03, 2013 5:31 PM GMT
    shortbutsweet saidThis topic is nothing but pure, unadulterated anti-semitism. The next time someone tries to convince you the Jews are taking over and must be suppressed or exterminated, bear in mind the facts about the world populations of various religions:

    Christian 33.39%
    Muslim 22.74%
    Other 10.95%
    Hindu 10.8%
    Non-religious 9.66%
    Buddhist 6.77%
    Ravidassia 2.80%
    Atheist 2.01%
    Sikh 0.35%
    Jewish 0.22%
    Baha'i 0.11%


    Yes, that's what this topic is and it often seems on this frequently God damned forum that you can't mention Jewish without anti-Semites spewing, but, likely there is a plurality of Jewish people in entertainment. Hey, we're a very amusing race. In fact, whenever the world gets a chance they use us as a piñata.

    So while we might not be a majority, and I don't know, haven't counted--and I do hate when people do--we do tend towards pluralities in the arts, finance, education, Nobel laureates, et. al. because our mothers never wanted us to break a nail playing basketball. It isn't rocket science; it's cosmetic.
  • Buddha

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    Jun 03, 2013 5:36 PM GMT
    Hahahaha this is so pathetic icon_biggrin.gif I thought this mindset about the jews died 50 years ago. It's similiar to "the gay agenda", the idea that a minority have some kind of hivemind and are always plotting to overwhelm "the poor and innocent normal person".

    Yes, gays have an ability to organize. Guess what fucktard, it's because we're a minority and it happens when we feel we're treated with injustice. "Dem homos rally up to get equal rights? DEY BE TAKING OVER DE TV AND BRAIN-WASHING MAH BOY AND PERCHUPDEYTOOKARJAWRBZ"

    Laurence saidAren't Non-religious and Atheist the same thing?

    If so, we're already over 10.

    Loz


    I personally say that atheism is a bit more strict, based on "a" which is a negation and "theism" that defines a certain type of belief-system with a theistic god. So I'd say it's the rejection of this specific belief-system (and really stress the fact that it's a lack of belief and not that atheists believe that there is no god). Having that said, there seems to be a bit of different opinions of what atheism entails. Just looking at the word, it does open up for a person to be an atheist while still believing in the supernatural, spiritual or gods that are of non-theistic nature. Some, however, argue that atheists reject any kind of supernatural or spiritual ideas, but I'd personally put that in a subcategory of atheists.

    Non-religious seems a bit more of a gray-area when it comes to believing in a theistic god. I'd say it ranges from agnosticism, to deism, to just having one own's concoction of ideas about spirituality, etc.
  • metta

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    Jun 03, 2013 6:00 PM GMT
    There is nothing wrong with turning this thread into a celebration of Jewish people in the entertainment industry. I would be curious to know if the Jewish religion encourages creativity and empathy. That could be a distinct possibility and a positive attribute. Imagine what Hollywood would be like without them. Imagine what Hollywood would be like without gay people.


    A little off-topic....yesterday I stumbled upon an interview with Michael Feinstein. I just found it to be interesting to hear his experience of becoming an assistant to Ira Gershwin.

    I was not familiar with him. I saw his name and was curious to see if he was related to my Senator. I did not find out about that. Then I found the interview. I think he is handsome. icon_smile.gif I hope that I can look that good at 56. Turns out he is gay and married.




    His man is very lucky! Totally dreamy! Crush worthy! lol icon_wink.gif







    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=michael+feinstein&oq=michael+feinstein&gs_l=youtube.3..35i39j0l9.1599.4326.0.4844.17.17.0.0.0.0.88.1226.17.17.0...0.0...1ac.1.11.youtube.lqiHcUvWGeg



    I <3 a lot of this old music!
  • metta

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    Jun 03, 2013 6:30 PM GMT
    He has recorded with Concord Records. I should have guessed that. icon_smile.gif
    Concord Records is owned by Norman Lear. One of my ex-neighbors is the CFO for Concord. Awesome, caring, progressive, passionate people! icon_smile.gif