Fruit-Flavored Drinks Are Not A Healthy Choice

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    Jun 04, 2013 2:37 AM GMT
    New York City wanted you to know:

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    New NYC Ad Campaign Targets Sweetened Teas, Fruit Drinks


    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/06/03/new-nyc-ad-campaign-targets-sweetened-teas-fruit-drinks/
  • HottJoe

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    Jun 04, 2013 3:13 AM GMT
    They're just trying to thwart the diabetes epidemic, which had become a national health crises. I'm surprised the U.S. Surgeon General doesn't do more.
  • calibro

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    Jun 04, 2013 4:35 AM GMT
    you mean to tell me purple stuff isn't healthy?
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    Jun 04, 2013 11:28 AM GMT
    HottJoe saidThey're just trying to thwart the diabetes epidemic, which had become a national health crises. I'm surprised the U.S. Surgeon General doesn't do more.


    So why don't they just stop subsidies to corn/HFCS? Nanny staters at their worst. More regulations and control for a problem they're largely responsible for. Convenient how that works.
  • Runner2233

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    Jun 04, 2013 12:32 PM GMT
    http://www.52kitchenadventures.com/2012/09/17/fifty-awesome-flavored-water-recipes/

    Great idea, super healthy, and really tasty.
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    Jun 04, 2013 12:47 PM GMT
    Runner2233 saidhttp://www.52kitchenadventures.com/2012/09/17/fifty-awesome-flavored-water-recipes/

    Great idea, super healthy, and really tasty.


    "The Health Education Council has launched the Rethink Your Drink campaign. They are encouraging healthy drink choices, like replacing sugar-sweetened beverages (think soda, sports drinks, and energy drinks) with water."

    Love the slogan of 'RETHINK YOUR DRINK'.

    THANKS, Runner2233, for posting this.
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    Jun 04, 2013 3:03 PM GMT
    riddler78 saidSo why don't they just stop subsidies to corn/HFCS? Nanny staters at their worst. More regulations and control for a problem they're largely responsible for. Convenient how that works.


    New York City subsidizes HFCS? That's news to me.

    Maybe you are thinking the Federal Farms Bill? But you wouldn't think that New York City is the same thing as the Federal government, would you?
  • HottJoe

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    Jun 04, 2013 3:13 PM GMT
    themachine said
    riddler78 saidSo why don't they just stop subsidies to corn/HFCS? Nanny staters at their worst. More regulations and control for a problem they're largely responsible for. Convenient how that works.


    New York City subsidizes HFCS? That's news to me.

    Maybe you are thinking the Federal Farms Bill? But you wouldn't think that New York City is the same thing as the Federal government, would you?


    Ignore Riddler. He doesn't know what he's talking about, or think anything needs to be done to rid the U.S. of toxic children's beverages.
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    Jun 04, 2013 3:24 PM GMT
    riddler78 said
    HottJoe saidThey're just trying to thwart the diabetes epidemic, which had become a national health crises. I'm surprised the U.S. Surgeon General doesn't do more.


    So why don't they just stop subsidies to corn/HFCS? Nanny staters at their worst. More regulations and control for a problem they're largely responsible for. Convenient how that works.


    I have to agree with Riddler on this one. It's a picture-perfect lesson in unintended consequences. They subsidize a product (corn), so more gets produced, and farmers/businesses don't just let excess go to waste. It gets used in other products where they can derive some kind of value, and beverages are a natural match for that. Cut down on the pure fruit juice portion and make up for it by adding high fructose corn syrup. It drives down costs and consumers aren't likely to notice. Then those consumers get accustomed to sweeter products, so it continues to encourage demand for them. Thank you subsidized corn. Monsanto must be proud.
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    Jun 04, 2013 3:30 PM GMT
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    riddler78 said
    HottJoe saidThey're just trying to thwart the diabetes epidemic, which had become a national health crises. I'm surprised the U.S. Surgeon General doesn't do more.


    So why don't they just stop subsidies to corn/HFCS? Nanny staters at their worst. More regulations and control for a problem they're largely responsible for. Convenient how that works.


    I have to agree with Riddler on this one. It's a picture-perfect lesson in unintended consequences. They subsidize a product (corn), so more gets produced, and farmers/businesses don't just let excess go to waste. It gets used in other products where they can derive some kind of value, and beverages are a natural match for that. Cut down on the pure fruit juice portion and make up for it by adding high fructose corn syrup. It drives down costs and consumers aren't likely to notice. Then those consumers get accustomed to sweeter products, so it continues to encourage demand for them. Thank you subsidized corn. Monsanto must be proud.


    I'm not sure what you're agreeing with here. No one has argued that this human made problem isn't a human made problem... I think we need to get toxic beverages off the shelf because it's causing the biggest public health crisis in America. Riddler thinks those beverages should stay. No one is arguing that corn subsidies do or don't exist. We already know they exist.
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    Jun 04, 2013 3:31 PM GMT
    MileHigh, don't drink the koolaid, er, flavoured drinks a la Riddler.
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    Jun 04, 2013 3:31 PM GMT
    I didn't mean that NY is subsidizing it. They are trying to address the issue, but the federal government (who is subsidizing it) is not. I would be thrilled to see the US use less sugar in things and drink more water vs sweetened beverages. But the subsidies are a valid part of the problem. People make money off our sugar addiction, and they do not want to see that revenue stream diminished. They have a vested interest in making sure people keep consuming all that HFCS they make, and they lobby accordingly.
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    Jun 04, 2013 3:35 PM GMT
    Tobacco subsidies:

    http://farm.ewg.org/progdetail.php?fips=00000&progcode=tobacco

    ...so using someone's extremely flawed logic, there should be no bans or ads discouraging smoking in any place by any form of gov't, federal, state, or municipal?
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    Jun 04, 2013 3:44 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    Ignore Riddler. He doesn't know what he's talking about, or think anything needs to be done to rid the U.S. of toxic children's beverages.


    Can we please be a little nicer? Why does any other RJ member need you to tell them who to pay attention to and who to ignore?
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    Jun 04, 2013 3:51 PM GMT
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    HottJoe said
    Ignore Riddler. He doesn't know what he's talking about, or think anything needs to be done to rid the U.S. of toxic children's beverages.


    Can we please be a little nicer? Why does any other RJ member need you to tell them who to pay attention to and who to ignore?


    The Riddler uses smoke and mirrors in an attempt to distract us from what's at the heart of issue, which is that we've been consuming toxic food and beverages for 30 years, and it's led to an epidemic public health crises. Whether or not subsidies need to be looked at doesn't change the fact that people who consume toxic food get sick.
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    Jun 04, 2013 3:59 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    CallMeAnytime said
    HottJoe said
    Ignore Riddler. He doesn't know what he's talking about, or think anything needs to be done to rid the U.S. of toxic children's beverages.


    Can we please be a little nicer? Why does any other RJ member need you to tell them who to pay attention to and who to ignore?


    The Riddler uses smoke and mirrors in an attempt to distract us from what's at the heart of issue, which is that we've been consuming toxic food and beverages for 30 years, and it's led to an epidemic public health crises. Whether or not subsidies need to be looked at doesn't change the fact that people who consume toxic food get sick.


    And we need you to trumpet your interpretation of his posts as if we are incapable of deciding for ourselves? And we need to follow your decreed course of action and can't choose for ourselves?

    You've inadvertently patterned yourself after Mayor Bloomberg. Interesting parallel.


  • HottJoe

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    Jun 04, 2013 4:03 PM GMT
    CallMeAnytime said
    HottJoe said
    CallMeAnytime said
    HottJoe said
    Ignore Riddler. He doesn't know what he's talking about, or think anything needs to be done to rid the U.S. of toxic children's beverages.


    Can we please be a little nicer? Why does any other RJ member need you to tell them who to pay attention to and who to ignore?


    The Riddler uses smoke and mirrors in an attempt to distract us from what's at the heart of issue, which is that we've been consuming toxic food and beverages for 30 years, and it's led to an epidemic public health crises. Whether or not subsidies need to be looked at doesn't change the fact that people who consume toxic food get sick.


    And we need you to trumpet your interpretation of his posts as if we are incapable of deciding for ourselves? And we need to follow your decreed course of action and can't choose for ourselves?

    You've inadvertently patterned yourself after Mayor Bloomberg. Interesting parallel.




    You've inadvertently patterned yourself after socalfitness. Weird.
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    Jun 04, 2013 4:11 PM GMT
    "You've inadvertently patterned yourself after socalfitness."

    Even through smoke and mirrors a deceptive person can be seen for what he is.

  • LJay

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    Jun 04, 2013 4:17 PM GMT
    I really do not think that enabling HFCS or sugar is the problem. If there were more of a demand for drinks that are not sweet, there would be more of them. The soft drink industry has other ideas.

    I am a diabetic. Drinking sweet drinks is not a good thing for me because the sugar is so rapidly absorbed. As a matter of fact, I am told to not drink sugary stuff at all, whether is is soda, juice or whatever.

    So I go into the typical convenience store thirsty and try to find something to drink. I do not drink artificially sweetened stuff. It tastes icky and there is evidence that the sweet taste alone stimulates the sugar cycle. I look at the shelves and can't even find unsweetened iced tea. There are a couple of brands of it that are good, but stores just don't carry them. Out of the typical 12 foot long by 5 or 6 rows high drink case, I have the choice of water.

    There must be a way.

    In the meantime, the best strategy for me is to keep two or three bottels of water cold in the fridge and take them with me when I go out.

    Finding a restroom to deal with the results a diabetic faces after drinking anything is another post.





















  • ivymassivenyc

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    Jun 04, 2013 6:16 PM GMT
    Course not. Just gotta read the label. Freshly made is much better
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    Jun 04, 2013 6:25 PM GMT
    riddler78 said
    HottJoe saidThey're just trying to thwart the diabetes epidemic, which had become a national health crises. I'm surprised the U.S. Surgeon General doesn't do more.


    So why don't they just stop subsidies to corn/HFCS? Nanny staters at their worst. More regulations and control for a problem they're largely responsible for. Convenient how that works.


    That pretty much describes every Jimmy Neutron episode, oddly enough. It's good business too.
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    Jun 04, 2013 7:06 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    You've inadvertently patterned yourself after socalfitness. Weird.


    ROFL.
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    Jun 04, 2013 7:13 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    CallMeAnytime said
    HottJoe said
    CallMeAnytime said
    HottJoe said
    Ignore Riddler. He doesn't know what he's talking about, or think anything needs to be done to rid the U.S. of toxic children's beverages.


    Can we please be a little nicer? Why does any other RJ member need you to tell them who to pay attention to and who to ignore?


    The Riddler uses smoke and mirrors in an attempt to distract us from what's at the heart of issue, which is that we've been consuming toxic food and beverages for 30 years, and it's led to an epidemic public health crises. Whether or not subsidies need to be looked at doesn't change the fact that people who consume toxic food get sick.


    And we need you to trumpet your interpretation of his posts as if we are incapable of deciding for ourselves? And we need to follow your decreed course of action and can't choose for ourselves?

    You've inadvertently patterned yourself after Mayor Bloomberg. Interesting parallel.




    You've inadvertently patterned yourself after socalfitness. Weird.


    Nice dodge, but the nanny equivalency between you and Bloomberg is quite real.
  • JackDoyle

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    Jun 04, 2013 7:19 PM GMT
    That's common knowledge