The hookup generation

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    Jun 04, 2013 5:30 AM GMT
    I read the wsj a lot and I came across the message Rob LaZebnik (writer for the Simpsons) wrote for the class of 2013. Of course he satired the absurd amount of hookups college students have. After reading the article, I watched an interview he conducted with WSJ LIve where he talked about his message. He brought up an interesting observation. He noted that when he was in college in the 1990s, college students were "dating" more. He also notes how this generation is rampant with hookups because we know that we will have a hard life later on because of the rapid economic changes we have experienced in the past years as well as the tenuous Iraq War. He praises the new generation of college students and says they are the smartest and hardworking of any other generation and 75% of adults today would not get accepted to their alma maters.

    So, for those of you who went to college in the 1990s, was there a dating culture? Also, what is everyone's opinion about this generation of college students since I am a current undergrad myself icon_wink.gif

    P.S: sorry for grammatical errors, I am on my iPad.
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    Jun 04, 2013 6:18 AM GMT
    I think it's just a shift/evolution in cultural norms. Not sure about other countries/cultures, but it seems that American society is becoming less prudish about sex and relationships.
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    Jun 04, 2013 8:49 AM GMT
    I don't understand how rampant hookups correlate with a bad economy. But I was an undergraduate in the 90s and I was definitely more interested in dating. I didn't opposed hookups and I had my share of them.
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    Jun 04, 2013 8:58 AM GMT
    I could argue this multiple ways. I could say that hookups are more acceptable now. I could also say that hookups are easier and that college students want instant gratification instead of putting in the work required to date seriously. The truth is, I don't know. I don't think the economy has anything to do with it. I also disagree that the new generation is the smartest and hardest working. From what I've seen, classes have been dumbed down a lot and students don't even bother trying because they know the teacher will adjust their grades to get the right average for the class.
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    Jun 04, 2013 9:29 AM GMT
    It seems like the new generation is finally learning that dating in college is a bad idea...if you want good grades, that is. Hookups make it much easier to relieve your natural sexual urges and get back to studying, without emotions ruining your concentration.

    I started college in 2002, and never paid any attention to what others were doing. The entire purpose of college for me was to get the fuck out of Arkansas, and nothing was going to hold me back. So yeah, I hooked up whenever my sexual frustration would interfere with my concentration.
  • Amelorn

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    Jun 04, 2013 1:03 PM GMT
    From what I've witnessed, this rampant hook-up culture is grossly overrated. Yeah, casual sex happens for most people at some point/intermittently. However, this "different partner every Friday" seems to apply only to a few. The saying "20% of people are having 80% of the sex," in reference to college campuses, makes sense.
  • HottJoe

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    Jun 04, 2013 1:55 PM GMT
    We didn't have grindr in the 90s. The only way to meet people outside of school was by going to coffee shops. Everything that happened, happened irl. The internet was in its infancy. And, like you mentioned, there were no wars, except for what was then known as the culture wars, which gave birth to modern liberalism.
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    Jun 04, 2013 3:20 PM GMT
    DudeInNOVA saidI could argue this multiple ways. I could say that hookups are more acceptable now. I could also say that hookups are easier and that college students want instant gratification instead of putting in the work required to date seriously. The truth is, I don't know. I don't think the economy has anything to do with it. I also disagree that the new generation is the smartest and hardest working. From what I've seen, classes have been dumbed down a lot and students don't even bother trying because they know the teacher will adjust their grades to get the right average for the class.
    Better watch out. All the Generation Y and Z people will get their feelings hurt and will have to spend years in therapy.
  • WhoDey

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    Jun 04, 2013 3:26 PM GMT
    Sure, maybe hookups are easier today in the age of grindr and such, but don't act like the college students of the 70s, 80s, and 90s were Saints.
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    Jun 04, 2013 5:13 PM GMT
    Technology has simplified the chase
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    Jun 04, 2013 6:23 PM GMT
    http://www.sitemaker.umich.edu/eob/files/konrathetal2011.pdf
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    Jun 04, 2013 6:49 PM GMT
    xrichx saidBetter watch out. All the Generation Y and Z people will get their feelings hurt and will have to spend years in therapy.

    They won't be hurt. They don't have the attention span to get past the first sentence. icon_lol.gif
  • Hothouse

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    Jun 04, 2013 7:34 PM GMT
    I was in college in the 80s and hooked up way more than I dated.
    I also didn't have the time to date, really, just wanted to have some fun once in a while.
    It was just before the AIDS crisis, and that most likely had something to do with it also. The casual sex encounters dropped way off after that.
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    Jun 05, 2013 12:39 AM GMT
    theantijock saidhttp://www.sitemaker.umich.edu/eob/files/konrathetal2011.pdf


    Even though I read quite a bit of academic research papers, I just examined the graphs and read the abstract and conclusion for this one. Interesting observations though. Thanks for the read!
  • TheBizMan

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    Jun 05, 2013 1:41 AM GMT
    I only hook up with good boys.icon_evil.gif
  • Rhi_Bran

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    Jun 05, 2013 1:52 AM GMT
    After I broke up with my ex, I ended up having several hookups. None of them ever made me feel better.

    I've learned that I can't do sex unless both I and the person I'm having sex with have bared our hearts to each other to some degree. Of course, that means ones heart is that much easier to break, but no risk, no reward. Leastwise, not in my case.
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    Jun 05, 2013 1:54 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidSo yeah, I hooked up whenever my sexual frustration would interfere with my concentration.

    You make it sound so easy.
  • calibro

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    Jun 05, 2013 4:21 AM GMT
    gays have always been hooking up. dating is only a recent thing
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    Jun 05, 2013 4:33 AM GMT
    Grindr is the new wide stance.
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    Jun 05, 2013 4:37 AM GMT
    sonicpower19 saidI read the wsj a lot and I came across the message Rob LaZebnik (writer for the Simpsons) wrote for the class of 2013. Of course he satired the absurd amount of hookups college students have. After reading the article, I watched an interview he conducted with WSJ LIve where he talked about his message. He brought up an interesting observation. He noted that when he was in college in the 1990s, college students were "dating" more. He also notes how this generation is rampant with hookups because we know that we will have a hard life later on because of the rapid economic changes we have experienced in the past years as well as the tenuous Iraq War. He praises the new generation of college students and says they are the smartest and hardworking of any other generation and 75% of adults today would not get accepted to their alma maters.

    So, for those of you who went to college in the 1990s, was there a dating culture? Also, what is everyone's opinion about this generation of college students since I am a current undergrad myself icon_wink.gif

    P.S: sorry for grammatical errors, I am on my iPad.


    I still hook up in my 30's . Not as much dating. So things really are not that different. I think they way the media shows sex as being something so casual has had an impact on the new generation. It's also only getting more acceptable to hook up without dating.

  • JohnDoe9688

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    Jun 05, 2013 4:48 AM GMT
    xrichx said
    DudeInNOVA saidI could argue this multiple ways. I could say that hookups are more acceptable now. I could also say that hookups are easier and that college students want instant gratification instead of putting in the work required to date seriously. The truth is, I don't know. I don't think the economy has anything to do with it. I also disagree that the new generation is the smartest and hardest working. From what I've seen, classes have been dumbed down a lot and students don't even bother trying because they know the teacher will adjust their grades to get the right average for the class.
    Better watch out. All the Generation Y and Z people will get their feelings hurt and will have to spend years in therapy.


    Hey now...my generation of college students is pretty damn hard working. I have no idea how smart or driven people in the 80s/90s were but there's a shit ton of incredibly gifted students, at least at my university.
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    Jun 05, 2013 4:55 AM GMT
    JohnDoe9688 said
    Hey now...my generation of college students is pretty damn hard working. I have no idea how smart or driven people in the 80s/90s were but there's a shit ton of incredibly gifted students, at least at my university.

    Thanks to helicopter parents and participation trophies, everybody is "gifted" now (=no one really is)
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    Jun 05, 2013 5:02 AM GMT
    Macaque said
    JohnDoe9688 said
    Hey now...my generation of college students is pretty damn hard working. I have no idea how smart or driven people in the 80s/90s were but there's a shit ton of incredibly gifted students, at least at my university.

    Thanks to helicopter parents and participation trophies, everybody is "gifted" now (=no one really is)


    ummm...I would have to disagree. I think there's a lot of young people that have that mindset that they are something special (from getting too many "participation" trophies, as you said it) but those aren't the people that I'm talking about. Have you been to a university lately? There's a lot of really interesting research going on by undergrads. Not all of us have the brains of Snookie and DJ Pauly D icon_razz.gif
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    Jun 05, 2013 5:03 AM GMT
    Hook ups (one-nighters we called them in the 80's) were just something we did to get off when we were between dates, or were not seeing any particular boyfriends. Hook ups served their purpose and were fun..............until I did them too much and then they became less than amazing. Like dessert - - - - if you eat too much of it, you get tired of it.
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    Jun 05, 2013 5:11 AM GMT
    Macaque said
    JohnDoe9688 said
    Hey now...my generation of college students is pretty damn hard working. I have no idea how smart or driven people in the 80s/90s were but there's a shit ton of incredibly gifted students, at least at my university.

    Thanks to helicopter parents and participation trophies, everybody is "gifted" now (=no one really is)


    actually, that's not it at all. the problem is your generation felt everyone should/must go to college. it watered down the bachelors degree. so whereas university used to be just for the academically driven, now students have to work extra hard to compete against the gluttony of students in academia as a result of your policies.

    and if i hear that participation trophy crap one more time, i'm going to throw someone in acid. seriously, no one thinks they're amazing because they get a participation trophy. the problem with entitlement started with the reagan generation, which is to say everyone who was in their 20s and 30s in the 80s is responsible for the way kids are now. go suck on that.