Slathering on Sunscreen Shows Results, Researchers Find

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    Jun 04, 2013 9:11 PM GMT
    http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/06/03/slathering-on-sunscreen-shows-results-researchers-find/?ref=health

    People who diligently use sunscreen every day can slow or even prevent for a time the development of wrinkles and sagging skin, a new study found. Although dermatologists have long told people to use sunscreen to prevent aging, this is the first research to show an actual effect on the appearance of skin, researchers said.

    The study involved 900 white people ages 25 to 55 in Australia, where intense sun exposure is a fact of life. Most had fair skin, and nearly all burned in the sun. Most were using sunscreen at least some of the time, and two-thirds wore hats in the sun.
  • HottJoe

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    Jun 04, 2013 9:57 PM GMT
    I've been using it every day for the last ten years, and it's worked. Lol, I haven't had even the slightest tan since I was in my early 20s.... I only wish I had started sooner.
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    Jun 04, 2013 10:03 PM GMT
    No duh.

    I wish I'd started sunscreen/avoiding tanning and burning when I was in my teens. Maybe I'd have avoided the skin cancer.

    Whatever, even at my advanced age with Retin A + sunscreen my skin looks better now than it did 5 years ago.
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    Jun 05, 2013 12:30 AM GMT
    Always wear protection! icon_twisted.gif
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    Jun 05, 2013 12:55 AM GMT
    I never go outside without sunscreen on my face. The sun in Australia is very harsh...
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    Jun 05, 2013 1:02 AM GMT
    I wear an SPF 15 on my face every day and generally wear long sleeves.

    If I'm going to be out in the sun, I'll wear at least an SPF 30 pretty much everywhere, exposed or not.
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    Jun 05, 2013 4:55 AM GMT
    I have become much better about sunscreen, but then I read somewhere else that some of them are harmful too.

    I really like Neutragena's mist product which emerged a few years ago. Dries quickly, protects for a long time and it's harder to miss a spot. I have always had good luck with their other products; guess I need to do some more reading and make sure it's safe for daily use.
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    Jun 05, 2013 11:27 AM GMT
    Yeah there is a lot of controversy now over this. Some proponents say a that some sunscreens actually cause cancer later in life. I haven't actually scoped it out, but i have read that formulations of skin and hair products are different in Europe for that reason, because of banned substances there. I've used sunscreen for years...so who knows. One thing that I have found is Aloe Vera applied on any type of burns really does a quick repair.
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    Jun 05, 2013 11:43 AM GMT
    HottJoe saidI've been using it every day for the last ten years, and it's worked. Lol, I haven't had even the slightest tan since I was in my early 20s.... I only wish I had started sooner.


    Me too ! I think back to those childhood days on the beach with hardly any sunscreen on and the resulting damage/blistering and I weep icon_lol.gif

    Now I'm SPF 30 everyday with hardcore UVA protection. If it were socially acceptable I'd probably walk around with a damn parasol too icon_lol.gif
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    Jun 05, 2013 12:09 PM GMT
    Yeah.. And sunscreen blocks Vitamin D synthesis as well.
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    Jun 05, 2013 4:25 PM GMT
    Big deal. If you moisturized and wore a hat you'd probably get the same results.
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    Jun 05, 2013 4:26 PM GMT
    Mcjr20 saidYeah.. And sunscreen blocks Vitamin D synthesis as well.


    You can have your vitamin D levels checked by a doctor, and if they're low you can take a supplement. Getting vitamin D from the sun isn't worth it. You don't want to have wrinkles when you're 30, especially since your peers who avoid the sun will be wrinkle free.
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    Jun 05, 2013 4:28 PM GMT
    eagermuscle saidBig deal. If you moisturized and wore a hat you'd probably get the same results.


    Use sunscreen with added moisturizer.icon_smile.gif
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    Jun 05, 2013 4:28 PM GMT
    Have been using it religiously for the past 5+ years. Wish I started when I was younger.
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    Jun 05, 2013 4:58 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    Mcjr20 saidYeah.. And sunscreen blocks Vitamin D synthesis as well.


    You can have your vitamin D levels checked by a doctor, and if they're low you can take a supplement. Getting vitamin D from the sun isn't worth it. You don't want to have wrinkles when you're 30, especially since your peers who avoid the sun will be wrinkle free.


    I agree that the sun can be damaging if you sunbath in excess. But really, moderation is the key to everything.

    The sun can be incredibly healing if you get 20-30 minutes of pure sunshine, after that, then just hide in the shade or something.
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    Jun 05, 2013 5:05 PM GMT
    Mcjr20 said
    HottJoe said
    Mcjr20 saidYeah.. And sunscreen blocks Vitamin D synthesis as well.


    You can have your vitamin D levels checked by a doctor, and if they're low you can take a supplement. Getting vitamin D from the sun isn't worth it. You don't want to have wrinkles when you're 30, especially since your peers who avoid the sun will be wrinkle free.


    I agree that the sun can be damaging if you sunbath in excess. But really, moderation is the key to everything.

    The sun can be incredibly healing if you get 20-30 minutes of pure sunshine, after that, then just hide in the shade or something.


    Actually, you're wrong. People with minimal daily sun exposure have 25% more wrinkles than those who use sunscreen everyday. I'm 33, and people tell me I look like I'm in my 20s all the time. Not so for my peers who didn't wear sunscreen. My bff who is blond, like you, is two years younger than me, and literally everyone thinks he's a great deal older than me. It's not genetics either, as our parents look about the same.
  • Montague

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    Jun 05, 2013 5:13 PM GMT
    How many of you think I don't need to wear sunscreen?
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    Jun 05, 2013 5:16 PM GMT
    Montague saidHow many of you think I don't need to wear sunscreen?


    You should wear some sun protection too babe.icon_smile.gif
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    Jun 05, 2013 5:19 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    Montague saidHow many of you think I don't need to wear sunscreen?


    You should wear some sun protection too babe.icon_smile.gif


    oh babe! I'm trying to bait a color tone war!
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    Jun 05, 2013 5:21 PM GMT
    And it will be just a matter of time before "they" find that some chemical in the sunscreen causes liver cancer.

    eat eggs/don't eat eggs
    eat red meat/don't eat red meat
    milk is good/milk is bad

    Hell, at one time doctors actually encouraged their patients to smoke menthol cigarettes!

    Unless you wear a burqa 24/7 you are going to get sun damage. I don't know about you guys but I don't want to have to remember to slather on sunscreen every 20 minutes when in the sun (that is what "they" recommend now or is it every 20 seconds?).

    Anyway, I prefer my guys to look a little rugged and weathered not like some parlor maid who spends her time indoors doing needlepoint and never seeing the light of day.

    My grandmother never went out in the sun unless it was to go from the house to the car and from the car to indoors. She had beautiful skin, but guess what? She died just like the rest of us will, and at 88 she was still categorically, undeniably dead. With wrinkles I might add.
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    Jun 05, 2013 5:22 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    Mcjr20 said
    HottJoe said
    Mcjr20 saidYeah.. And sunscreen blocks Vitamin D synthesis as well.


    You can have your vitamin D levels checked by a doctor, and if they're low you can take a supplement. Getting vitamin D from the sun isn't worth it. You don't want to have wrinkles when you're 30, especially since your peers who avoid the sun will be wrinkle free.


    I agree that the sun can be damaging if you sunbath in excess. But really, moderation is the key to everything.

    The sun can be incredibly healing if you get 20-30 minutes of pure sunshine, after that, then just hide in the shade or something.


    Actually, you're wrong. People with minimal daily sun exposure have 25% more wrinkles than those who use sunscreen everyday. I'm 33, and people tell me I look like I'm in my 20s all the time. Not so for my peers who didn't wear sunscreen. My bff who is blond, like you, is two years younger than me, and literally everyone thinks he's a great deal older than me. It's not genetics either, as our parents look about the same.


    Don't you think you're exaggerating a bit? I personally don't care if I have a few wrinkles ( I'm not talking about like.. a lot of wrinkles but like 1-2 fine lines or something like that) As long as I'm healthy I'm good.

    Besides, what you describe as a result of minimal sun exposure sounds more like people who have been tanning for far longer than they should have.

    The sun isn't the horrible evil monster that people from other companies make it sound like. It has a lot of benefits if you as I said, only expose yourself in moderation or very little that is. The only thing you really care about is skin that starts to sag and gets all wrinkly but you forget that the sun has benefits as well.

    On a side note, there's a lot of chemicals in most people's sunscreen. And that isn't healthier for you than the sun is.
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    Jun 05, 2013 5:31 PM GMT
    Mcjr20 said
    HottJoe said
    Mcjr20 said
    HottJoe said
    Mcjr20 saidYeah.. And sunscreen blocks Vitamin D synthesis as well.


    You can have your vitamin D levels checked by a doctor, and if they're low you can take a supplement. Getting vitamin D from the sun isn't worth it. You don't want to have wrinkles when you're 30, especially since your peers who avoid the sun will be wrinkle free.


    I agree that the sun can be damaging if you sunbath in excess. But really, moderation is the key to everything.

    The sun can be incredibly healing if you get 20-30 minutes of pure sunshine, after that, then just hide in the shade or something.


    Actually, you're wrong. People with minimal daily sun exposure have 25% more wrinkles than those who use sunscreen everyday. I'm 33, and people tell me I look like I'm in my 20s all the time. Not so for my peers who didn't wear sunscreen. My bff who is blond, like you, is two years younger than me, and literally everyone thinks he's a great deal older than me. It's not genetics either, as our parents look about the same.


    Don't you think you're exaggerating a bit? I personally don't care if I have a few wrinkles ( I'm not talking about like.. a lot of wrinkles but like 1-2 fine lines or something like that) As long as I'm healthy I'm good.

    Besides, what you describe as a result of minimal sun exposure sounds more like people who have been tanning for far longer than they should have.

    The sun isn't the horrible evil monster that people from other companies make it sound like. It has a lot of benefits if you as I said, only expose yourself in moderation or very little that is. The only thing you really care about is skin that starts to sag and gets all wrinkly but you forget that the sun has benefits as well.

    On a side note, there's a lot of chemicals in most people's sunscreen. And that isn't healthier for you than the sun is.


    You'll feel differently about wrinkles in a few years, especially as a model. People will treat you differently, regardless of how you feel about yourself. That's just the world we live in. The fact is, if you look at guys like me or alphatrigger you can tell we've avoided the sun. As for the chemicals in sunscreen, I'm not sure what effect they might have down the line, but, if it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario, I'd rather do, because the results are stunning.
  • HottJoe

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    Jun 05, 2013 5:36 PM GMT
    Unintended said
    Mcjr20 said
    HottJoe said
    Mcjr20 saidYeah.. And sunscreen blocks Vitamin D synthesis as well.


    You can have your vitamin D levels checked by a doctor, and if they're low you can take a supplement. Getting vitamin D from the sun isn't worth it. You don't want to have wrinkles when you're 30, especially since your peers who avoid the sun will be wrinkle free.


    I agree that the sun can be damaging if you sunbath in excess. But really, moderation is the key to everything.

    The sun can be incredibly healing if you get 20-30 minutes of pure sunshine, after that, then just hide in the shade or something.


    The sun requirement to produce Vitamin D are surprisingly and do not even require full-body exposure -- just 10 minutes per day in short pants and a short sleeve shirt.

    Since sunscreens, even the best Zinc or Titanium Dioxide sunblocks are not 100% effective and lose efficacy over time longer exposure with a sunblock will trigger Vitamin D production.


    I take a multivitamin and live like a vampire.
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    Jun 05, 2013 5:39 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    Mcjr20 said
    HottJoe said
    Mcjr20 said
    HottJoe said
    Mcjr20 saidYeah.. And sunscreen blocks Vitamin D synthesis as well.


    You can have your vitamin D levels checked by a doctor, and if they're low you can take a supplement. Getting vitamin D from the sun isn't worth it. You don't want to have wrinkles when you're 30, especially since your peers who avoid the sun will be wrinkle free.


    I agree that the sun can be damaging if you sunbath in excess. But really, moderation is the key to everything.

    The sun can be incredibly healing if you get 20-30 minutes of pure sunshine, after that, then just hide in the shade or something.


    Actually, you're wrong. People with minimal daily sun exposure have 25% more wrinkles than those who use sunscreen everyday. I'm 33, and people tell me I look like I'm in my 20s all the time. Not so for my peers who didn't wear sunscreen. My bff who is blond, like you, is two years younger than me, and literally everyone thinks he's a great deal older than me. It's not genetics either, as our parents look about the same.


    Don't you think you're exaggerating a bit? I personally don't care if I have a few wrinkles ( I'm not talking about like.. a lot of wrinkles but like 1-2 fine lines or something like that) As long as I'm healthy I'm good.

    Besides, what you describe as a result of minimal sun exposure sounds more like people who have been tanning for far longer than they should have.

    The sun isn't the horrible evil monster that people from other companies make it sound like. It has a lot of benefits if you as I said, only expose yourself in moderation or very little that is. The only thing you really care about is skin that starts to sag and gets all wrinkly but you forget that the sun has benefits as well.

    On a side note, there's a lot of chemicals in most people's sunscreen. And that isn't healthier for you than the sun is.


    You'll feel differently about wrinkles in a few years, especially as a model. People will treat you differently, regardless of how you feel about yourself. That's just the world we live in. The fact is, if you look at guys like me or alphatrigger you can tell we've avoided the sun. As for the chemicals in sunscreen, I'm not sure what effect they might have down the line, but, if it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario, I'd rather do, because the results are stunning.


    That may be, but I think it depends a lot where you live. I mean I live in Germany, it's pretty close to Scandinavia which is the nordic countries. now, I live in Hamburg which is close to the border of Denmark and I can tell you that where I live, I get moderate-to-little sun exposure during Autumn, Winter and Spring while it's not as bad during the summer as it is in Texas or Australia. If I lived in those two locations for example, I would probably also use sunscreen on my face since I'm a blond and I can burn up quite well, faster than my other friends who are brunettes and are slightly darker than me. But I don't live in a location where the majority of people uses sunscreen because.. The sun really isn't that powerful enough here to use it. So I don't have the same problem as you may do. ( I don't know where you live)

    But I think people in general are too quick to judge things for example the sun. Sure, if you continue to expose yourself to the sun you will get wrinkles but again. Moderation. I bet you could find tons of studies and articles about how healing the sun is. But as any other things, if you overdo it, the results won't be pretty.
  • HottJoe

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    Jun 05, 2013 5:41 PM GMT
    Unintended saidSame here. I am actually horrified that due to extensive sweating on Saturday's very long mountain bike ride, my neck and arms received much, much to sun.

    Keep in mind that effectively, all damage is oxidative and that by slathering on glycolic acid or similar after sun expose, damage and be mitigated.


    Yeah, just moisturizing helps.