Considering to turn my body into a T-girl...

  • BloodFlame

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    Jun 04, 2013 10:22 PM GMT
    People would seriously think I'm joking but I'm not. While I'm not 100% sure that I'd want to, I won't lie because I honestly have thought about it. This might be a little long...

    I don't know what is wrong with me but I'm just tired of being in a 100% male body. Being perceived as "less then desire" for certain things I lack like masculinity or lack of body (I like the size I am but I understand it's not every gay man's cup of tea* or the clothes I wear or just, over all who I am. I think it's safe for me to say that my time being openly gay hasn't been so positive but hey what can you do right? I just... I want to not associate with gay men anymore. It's bad to say as I try to be open to everyone, including bigot racists but I don't know. I feel all this negativity really tore me down as each year passed.

    Even though, I wouldn't want to get my penis cut off or turned into a vagina, I wouldn't mind growing the fake breast and altering my look to appear even softer than I already am. I feel like this little transformation would make me happy. No more having to worry about not being masculine enough (biggest one) or wearing androgynous clothes. I know I'd still be perceived as a freak but I don't care, we all can't be society's perfect people and if taking a chance to be happy makes me a freak/disgusting, so be it. I already feel like I fit in as a freak anyway. My mannerisms are not typical masculine, some of my favorite idols are female (albeit rock singers but still), and people already say I look like some "black ghetto chick". So it seems like the cards are forming. The only thing I don't have going is the high pitched valley girl voice (don't like it anyway).

    I know I'm going to get lots of flak and shit thrown at me here for saying this but whatever, just being honest. I know you can't just magically change your gender mentally as you usually have to be born with it (gender identity disorders, etc.) but could it be possible that you realize these feelings later in life?

    Anyway, I'm not sure whatelse to say. So don't feel obliged to reply. If you don't like this, simply don't respond.
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    Jun 04, 2013 10:30 PM GMT
    That change won't necessarily guarantee happiness. Being happy is a choice that must be made daily. Try to resolve all things before you make such a change. However your path is yours and ultimatly if you find freedom in that choice ... Then go for it.
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    Jun 04, 2013 10:34 PM GMT
    Hillie saidThat change won't necessarily guarantee happiness. Being happy is a choice that must be made daily. Try to resolve all things before you make such a change. However your path is yours and ultimatly if you find freedom in that choice ... Then go for it.


    I guess but that's why I definitely won't act on the change right away. I'm still going to think and see how things turn out but at this point, I would start right away haha. Because well, life as a gay male right now feels unbearable.
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    Hillie saidThat change won't necessarily guarantee happiness. Being happy is a choice that must be made daily. Try to resolve all things before you make such a change. However your path is yours and ultimatly if you find freedom in that choice ... Then go for it.


    I guess but that's why I definitely won't act on the change right away. I'm still going to think and see how things turn out but at this point, I would start right away haha. Because well, life as a gay male right now feels unbearable.


    I'm sure you can ask any member here if at anytime in their life til present have they felt life was unbareable and if honest you'll get a firm yes. How you handle life in crisis will define who you are. The beauty that you present to the wrld is unique and although it might not be well received by some, others will revel in your presence simply because you're you.
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    Jun 04, 2013 11:10 PM GMT
    Hillie said
    Nirvana_Fan1991 said
    Hillie saidThat change won't necessarily guarantee happiness. Being happy is a choice that must be made daily. Try to resolve all things before you make such a change. However your path is yours and ultimatly if you find freedom in that choice ... Then go for it.


    I guess but that's why I definitely won't act on the change right away. I'm still going to think and see how things turn out but at this point, I would start right away haha. Because well, life as a gay male right now feels unbearable.


    I'm sure you can ask any member here if at anytime in their life til present have they felt life was unbareable and if honest you'll get a firm yes. How you handle life in crisis will define who you are. The beauty that you present to the wrld is unique and although it might not be well received by some, others will revel in your presence simply because you're you.


    I'm just unsure right now. Usually, I'm able to hide my insecurities and I have been for years but I guess I'm started to explode from the influx. I'm just tired of being looked down upon for simply being me.
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    Jun 04, 2013 11:24 PM GMT
    Do you actually want to be a girl? Or are you doing it because you feel it would make you more attractive to a certain demographic?
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    Hillie said
    Nirvana_Fan1991 said
    Hillie saidThat change won't necessarily guarantee happiness. Being happy is a choice that must be made daily. Try to resolve all things before you make such a change. However your path is yours and ultimatly if you find freedom in that choice ... Then go for it.


    I guess but that's why I definitely won't act on the change right away. I'm still going to think and see how things turn out but at this point, I would start right away haha. Because well, life as a gay male right now feels unbearable.


    I'm sure you can ask any member here if at anytime in their life til present have they felt life was unbareable and if honest you'll get a firm yes. How you handle life in crisis will define who you are. The beauty that you present to the wrld is unique and although it might not be well received by some, others will revel in your presence simply because you're you.


    I'm just unsure right now. Usually, I'm able to hide my insecurities and I have been for years but I guess I'm started to explode from the influx. I'm just tired of being looked down upon for simply being me.


    Your a blk gay male and it wont be easy but find strength and as bad as you think things are for you, remember they can always be worse. That might not be comforting but in some parts of the wrld self made choices aren't an option. You have one think wisely as it is the key to your future.
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    Jun 05, 2013 12:01 AM GMT
    It sounds like you want to change more out a need to be accepted as effeminate rather than the feeling that you were born in the wrong gender. After all, you said you like your body, and honestly you have a body many people would kill for.... I also think you have a cool style and nothing to be ashamed of. Whether you stay as you are, or change your outward appearance, you should know that you have a lot going for you, and also society needs its "freaks". That's why I always act like a freak.icon_smile.gificon_wink.gif
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    Jun 05, 2013 12:04 AM GMT
    jmusmc85 saidDo you actually want to be a girl? Or are you doing it because you feel it would make you more attractive to a certain demographic?


    It's more like 50/50 on it. One half is because everyone already thinks I'm a girl or might as well be one before even meeting me. The other half is true what you. I won't lie. It just seems like men who like T-girls don't care if she is slim built. I feel this could stem from my own body issues. I love my build but it's such a turnoff for a large portion of men. And when they hear that I don't want to become big and burly, I can tell they are disgusted. This might also come from my gay twin brother. He's working out to become like those guys from Jersey Shore and everyone praises him for it but I never heard anything good said to me.

    QUOTE AUTHOR GOES HEREYour a blk gay male and it wont be easy but find strength and as bad as you think things are for you, remember they can always be worse. That might not be comforting but in some parts of the wrld self made choices aren't an option. You have one think wisely as it is the key to your future.


    I honestly thought I had strength. Ever since I came out, I held my head up high. Sure I had my down days but I tried to see the silver lining. But after all the negativity and hiding my feelings toward it, I think it's turning me rotten... icon_sad.gif
    Now I'm starting to hate the person I am and I wasn't like this at all. I loved being myself. But I understand what you're trying to say. I'll try..
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    Jun 05, 2013 12:05 AM GMT
    The changes you're considering would distance you even further from finding a mate.

    Just sayin'...
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    Jun 05, 2013 12:12 AM GMT
    HottJoe saidIt sounds like you want to change more out a need to be accepted as effeminate rather than the feeling that you were born in the wrong gender. After all, you said you like your body, and honestly you have a body many people would kill for.... I also think you have a cool style and nothing to be ashamed of. Whether you stay as you are, or change your outward appearance, you should know that you have a lot going for you, and also society needs its "freaks". That's why I always act like a freak.icon_smile.gificon_wink.gif


    Thank you...


    PaulFlexes The changes you're considering would distance you even further from finding a mate.

    Just sayin'...


    Why do you say that?
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    Jun 05, 2013 12:27 AM GMT
    If you're doing it for other people...
    it isn't a good idea.
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    Jun 05, 2013 12:41 AM GMT
    I'm getting a lot of contradictory things from your post and your profile. You post photos of guys you want to look like in your profile and they are all muscular/masculine types. But here in the thread you say something quite different. It's important to make such personal choices for you and not so you can attract other people. Sure, making sure you look nice when you walk out the door is largely for other people, but how you express yourself through your own body is another thing entirely. Even if it limits your choices in partners you have to be your own person and do what feels right to you. If you did somehow become the big burly macho guy you think people want you to be....what happens down the road when your parter discovers it's all a lie? Then what?

    I highly suggest seeing a therapist so that you can sort your feelings out with someone who can guide you down the proper path. Just make sure they have experience with LGBT people.
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    Nirvana_Fan1991 said
    PaulFlexes The changes you're considering would distance you even further from finding a mate.

    Just sayin'...


    Why do you say that?
    If you think that lacking masculinity as a man is currently hindering you, just wait till you have boobs and a dick. The vast majority of people in "gender limbo" end up doing tranny porn cause they can't find anyone who'll be with them other than those with tranny fetishes.
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    Jun 05, 2013 12:48 AM GMT
    paulflexes said
    Nirvana_Fan1991 said
    PaulFlexes The changes you're considering would distance you even further from finding a mate.

    Just sayin'...


    Why do you say that?
    If you think that lacking masculinity as a man is currently hindering you, just wait till you have boobs and a dick. The vast majority of people in "gender limbo" end up doing tranny porn cause they can't find anyone who'll be with them other than those with tranny fetishes.


    I have to agree with this. However.....if that is how he/she truly feels inside, I think that's the route to go. Not all of our choices in life should revolve around how much dick we can get.
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    Jun 05, 2013 1:14 AM GMT
    Scruffypup saidI'm getting a lot of contradictory things from your post and your profile. You post photos of guys you want to look like in your profile and they are all muscular/masculine types. But here in the thread you say something quite different. It's important to make such personal choices for you and not so you can attract other people. Sure, making sure you look nice when you walk out the door is largely for other people, but how you express yourself through your own body is another thing entirely. Even if it limits your choices in partners you have to be your own person and do what feels right to you. If you did somehow become the big burly macho guy you think people want you to be....what happens down the road when your parter discovers it's all a lie? Then what?

    I highly suggest seeing a therapist so that you can sort your feelings out with someone who can guide you down the proper path. Just make sure they have experience with LGBT people.


    The guys in the pictures I posted, I chose because their bodies weren't significantly big and I was having trouble finding a good example... I'll probably edit that out though since it most likely is giving the wrong impression.

    And all the choices I have made, I did make for myself. My interest in clothing, my taste in music, wanting to become an artist, working out (okay, maybe this one initially started because I wanted to attract someone but I ended up liking the routines I came up with), etc. Everything I did was for me even if though I never ever got support for it. I guess I'm just getting worn out from being rejected for simply being myself. It's not like I kill or eat people lol.

    I'm going to try looking into a therapist. I know I need help because if I keep harboring these feelings, I know I'm going to turn crazy and possibly snap and kill myself in the most grotesque way I can think of.

    Paulflexes If you think that lacking masculinity as a man is currently hindering you, just wait till you have boobs and a dick. The vast majority of people in "gender limbo" end up doing tranny porn cause they can't find anyone who'll be with them other than those with tranny fetishes.


    I've heard about that... But sometimes I feel that maybe if I did turn into tranny and all people wanted from me was sex and nothing more. I'd probably do it. And if they cheated on me... I wouldn't leave them. This sounds horrible I know but at this point, I don't really believe in love. What's the point of it if the person is going to grow bored of you and chuck you out for someone better?
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    Nirvana_Fan1991 said I know I need help because if I keep harboring these feelings, I know I'm going to turn crazy and possibly snap and kill myself in the most grotesque way I can think of.

    But sometimes I feel that maybe if I did turn into tranny and all people wanted from me was sex and nothing more. I'd probably do it. And if they cheated on me... I wouldn't leave them. This sounds horrible I know but at this point, I don't really believe in love. What's the point of it if the person is going to grow bored of you and chuck you out for someone better?


    Wow. Okay you definitely need to talk to someone right away. For one, if you're even thinking about suicide you must get help NOW. And you need to talk about your idea that everyone will get bored with you and discard you. That's just not the case. I urge you to make an appointment immediately. Not sure what your budget is but there are therapists available on sliding scales (or even free) in most cities. You're a valuable human being and you deserve happiness just like everyone else. And if you're feeling suicidal, just drive yourself to the nearest ER or call 911. I can assure you they will get you the help you need. It's nothing to play with.
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    Jun 05, 2013 1:28 AM GMT
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    Nirvana_Fan1991 said I know I need help because if I keep harboring these feelings, I know I'm going to turn crazy and possibly snap and kill myself in the most grotesque way I can think of.

    But sometimes I feel that maybe if I did turn into tranny and all people wanted from me was sex and nothing more. I'd probably do it. And if they cheated on me... I wouldn't leave them. This sounds horrible I know but at this point, I don't really believe in love. What's the point of it if the person is going to grow bored of you and chuck you out for someone better?


    Wow. Okay you definitely need to talk to someone right away. For one, if you're even thinking about suicide you must get help NOW. And you need to talk about your idea that everyone will get bored with you and discard you. That's just not the case. I urge you to make an appointment immediately. Not sure what your budget is but there are therapists available on sliding scales (or even free) in most cities. You're a valuable human being and you deserve happiness just like everyone else. And if you're feeling suicidal, just drive yourself to the nearest ER or call 911. I can assure you they will get you the help you need. It's nothing to play with.


    I don't really have much money which is why I never got a therapist... Like I said, I've had these feelings for 5 years and normally, I was able to keep them under control. But now all of a sudden, it's like a ton of bricks are falling and pulling me down. I'll try to look for one though... I really want one...
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    Nirvana_Fan1991 said I know I need help because if I keep harboring these feelings, I know I'm going to turn crazy and possibly snap and kill myself in the most grotesque way I can think of.

    But sometimes I feel that maybe if I did turn into tranny and all people wanted from me was sex and nothing more. I'd probably do it. And if they cheated on me... I wouldn't leave them. This sounds horrible I know but at this point, I don't really believe in love. What's the point of it if the person is going to grow bored of you and chuck you out for someone better?


    Wow. Okay you definitely need to talk to someone right away. For one, if you're even thinking about suicide you must get help NOW. And you need to talk about your idea that everyone will get bored with you and discard you. That's just not the case. I urge you to make an appointment immediately. Not sure what your budget is but there are therapists available on sliding scales (or even free) in most cities. You're a valuable human being and you deserve happiness just like everyone else. And if you're feeling suicidal, just drive yourself to the nearest ER or call 911. I can assure you they will get you the help you need. It's nothing to play with.


    I don't really have much money which is why I never got a therapist... Like I said, I've had these feelings for 5 years and normally, I was able to keep them under control. But now all of a sudden, it's like a ton of bricks are falling and pulling me down. I'll try to look for one though... I really want one...


    Don't let money stop you from getting the help you need. There are government programs in place to help people that need mental health care. Exhaust all of these numbers tomorrow and tell they up front that you're having suicidal thoughts and let them no you have no money. That will be the red flag words they need to hear to take you seriously. Call some of these numbers first thing tomorrow.

    (Sorry, the link button isn't working tonight so just copy and paste into your browser)

    https://www.google.com/search?q=henderson+nevada+mental+health+services&oq=Henderson%2C+Nevada+mental+health&aqs=chrome.1.57j0l3.12869j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
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    Jun 05, 2013 2:11 AM GMT
    Scruffypup said
    Nirvana_Fan1991 said
    Scruffypup said
    Nirvana_Fan1991 said I know I need help because if I keep harboring these feelings, I know I'm going to turn crazy and possibly snap and kill myself in the most grotesque way I can think of.

    But sometimes I feel that maybe if I did turn into tranny and all people wanted from me was sex and nothing more. I'd probably do it. And if they cheated on me... I wouldn't leave them. This sounds horrible I know but at this point, I don't really believe in love. What's the point of it if the person is going to grow bored of you and chuck you out for someone better?


    Wow. Okay you definitely need to talk to someone right away. For one, if you're even thinking about suicide you must get help NOW. And you need to talk about your idea that everyone will get bored with you and discard you. That's just not the case. I urge you to make an appointment immediately. Not sure what your budget is but there are therapists available on sliding scales (or even free) in most cities. You're a valuable human being and you deserve happiness just like everyone else. And if you're feeling suicidal, just drive yourself to the nearest ER or call 911. I can assure you they will get you the help you need. It's nothing to play with.


    I don't really have much money which is why I never got a therapist... Like I said, I've had these feelings for 5 years and normally, I was able to keep them under control. But now all of a sudden, it's like a ton of bricks are falling and pulling me down. I'll try to look for one though... I really want one...


    Don't let money stop you from getting the help you need. There are government programs in place to help people that need mental health care. Exhaust all of these numbers tomorrow and tell they up front that you're having suicidal thoughts and let them no you have no money. That will be the red flag words they need to hear to take you seriously. Call some of these numbers first thing tomorrow.

    (Sorry, the link button isn't working tonight so just copy and paste into your browser)

    https://www.google.com/search?q=henderson+nevada+mental+health+services&oq=Henderson%2C+Nevada+mental+health&aqs=chrome.1.57j0l3.12869j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


    Thank you... I will
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    Jun 05, 2013 2:21 AM GMT
    Please do what Scruffy recommended above. Get all the help you can get to overcome your depression!!!!

    From reading through the thread I get the feeling that you have not fully accepted yourself the way you really are. Sounds as if you tried for years to butch yourself up and are now coming to the realization that it didn't work and are very frustrated. You feel as if you have to fulfill certain masculinity criteria to become desirable and datable.

    All the while you were date-less probably because you didn't come over as authentic but fake. You have to allow yourself to be yourself, no excuses. Develop your own style. If you want to soften your appearance there is a lot you can try with clothes, hair and make up before going under the knife. But don't change your appearance just because you think you should. From your pics I think you already have a great personal style. If you like what you see in the mirror, then go for it and be who you are. To hell with any perceived incongruences.
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    Jun 05, 2013 2:50 AM GMT
    Ok, Imma keep it real withchu!!!! Cuz dats what I do!!!

    It sounds like you have just been in a (long) rut because you are not comfortable in your own body. But you have to decide for yourself, do you think becoming more feminine will make you more happy? Or would being more masculine make you happier?

    If you ask me, I think you becoming a T-girl will only be a long and costly mistake. You are not as hopeless as you think. I think changing your sex is a extremely drastic and IMHO, illogical, choice.

    You are 21 years old. Start to act and dress like one. This goth look you have going on might have been cute at 16, but you are an adult now. It's time to start dressing your age. You can still show your personality without becoming a clone of everyone else, but dressing like you shop at the Hot Topic bargain bin is not going to get you any dick. Second, get a damn haircut son. Face it, you don't have the hair or genes to pull off what you have on your head. You are black, your hair is different than others. It's not a cute look what you have going on right now.

    I think with a little time and patience, and a gym membership, you can build come confidence. In the end, it will be a hella lot easier.


    P.S. Talk to a counselor. Sounds like you need to blow off some steam related to your brother and lack of social life.
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    You say you don't care, and yet you say that this would make you feel better/get you to be more accepted.

    First of all, accept yourself for whatever you are, not what you aren't. Once you've come to a full and complete acceptance of yourself, then think about ways you can make yourself better. Not necessarily have a sex change, but ways you better fit your ideal self. Like being more helpful and becoming a person others want to be around.

    JM above me also has some good points. Confidence is key.
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    Nirvana_Fan1991 said... if they cheated on me... I wouldn't leave them. This sounds horrible I know but at this point, I don't really believe in love. What's the point of it if the person is going to grow bored of you and chuck you out for someone better?
    You're associating love with sexual interest. If someone loves you, they love you, regardless of how you look. If someone wants to have sex with you, it means you make their dick hard. Every once in a blue moon, one person fits both sides.
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    Jun 05, 2013 4:09 AM GMT
    bhp91126 saidPlease do what Scruffy recommended above. Get all the help you can get to overcome your depression!!!!

    From reading through the thread I get the feeling that you have not fully accepted yourself the way you really are. Sounds as if you tried for years to butch yourself up and are now coming to the realization that it didn't work and are very frustrated. You feel as if you have to fulfill certain masculinity criteria to become desirable and datable.

    All the while you were date-less probably because you didn't come over as authentic but fake. You have to allow yourself to be yourself, no excuses. Develop your own style. If you want to soften your appearance there is a lot you can try with clothes, hair and make up before going under the knife. But don't change your appearance just because you think you should. From your pics I think you already have a great personal style. If you like what you see in the mirror, then go for it and be who you are. To hell with any perceived incongruences.


    I will be getting help, I assure that.

    As for your other comment. It's not so much that I was trying to be butch. Honestly, I feel I can have both qualities of masc and fem but I definitely slide more on the fem side. I'm much more in touch of my feelings. But for my personal style, I like dark colors. Black is my favorite color. Not because I want to fit in but because it's always been my favorite color. I do like what I see in the mirror. I think my challenge is to be okay with myself and not criticize myself too harsh. I am comfortable in myself. I like what I wear, I exercise, I never did and don't plan on doing drugs, I eat a lot better then I used to. I feel I'm on the right path. icon_smile.gif

    Thank you very much for your advice though.

    Jmusmc85 Ok, Imma keep it real withchu!!!! Cuz dats what I do!!!

    It sounds like you have just been in a (long) rut because you are not comfortable in your own body. But you have to decide for yourself, do you think becoming more feminine will make you more happy? Or would being more masculine make you happier?

    If you ask me, I think you becoming a T-girl will only be a long and costly mistake. You are not as hopeless as you think. I think changing your sex is a extremely drastic and IMHO, illogical, choice.

    You are 21 years old. Start to act and dress like one. This goth look you have going on might have been cute at 16, but you are an adult now. It's time to start dressing your age. You can still show your personality without becoming a clone of everyone else, but dressing like you shop at the Hot Topic bargain bin is not going to get you any dick. Second, get a damn haircut son. Face it, you don't have the hair or genes to pull off what you have on your head. You are black, your hair is different than others. It's not a cute look what you have going on right now.

    I think with a little time and patience, and a gym membership, you can build come confidence. In the end, it will be a hella lot easier.


    P.S. Talk to a counselor. Sounds like you need to blow off some steam related to your brother and lack of social life.

    To answer your first part. I definitely feel like I am ore tied to my sensitive side. I've always been. Not to say, I go all blonde cheerleader how I act but I feel when people hear me talk, I can come across as shy/feminine/artsy. I don't want to turn myself into a man's man. In the sense where I hide my emotions and whatnot. This is why art is good to me. I get to draw my emotions out when I'm having a bad day.

    To answer your second part, my style is darkly inclined. I LOVE dark colors (black being my favorite color). Now, I have toned down my appearance since my high school days. I wear dress shirts and all that jazz. Goth isn't a teenage phase. It is for some but it is a legitimate lifestyle.After thinking about it, this could be the reason for my lack of social life but I honestly don't care. I'm not hurting anyone and I am respectable and polite to people, especially elders. If you really think they are only for teenagers, if you have an open mind, look up the style "Corporate Goth", that could give some insight of what I mean. For my hair, I like having my hair straight. I'm not trying to be white or anything like that, I just like it straight. I hated it when it was in afro form lol. But I am going to get it trimmed, that I do agree with.

    Really, I appreciate your crit but I think the thing I'm going to work on is defiinitely seeing that therapist and fixing up my mind. I also want to do volunteer work for animals and youth so I'm going to look into that too. icon_smile.gif

    Thanks nonetheless for your output, it's appreciated. icon_smile.gif


    [quote][cite]Waytodawn [/cite] You say you don't care, and yet you say that this would make you feel better/get you to be more accepted.

    First of all, accept yourself for whatever you are, not what you aren't. Once you've come to a full and complete acceptance of yourself, then think about ways you can make yourself better. Not necessarily have a sex change, but ways you better fit your ideal self. Like being more helpful and becoming a person others want to be around.

    JM above me also has some good points. Confidence is key.

    Hopefully with the counseling, I'll have a better understanding of myself. Definitely going to look into volunteering. Help a person or even a furry critter sounds like a good idea and I always wanted to help someone. icon_smile.gif

    Thank you for the advice. I remember it. icon_smile.gif

    [quote][cite] Paulflexes [/cite] You're associating love with sexual interest. If someone loves you, they love you, regardless of how you look. If someone wants to have sex with you, it means you make their dick hard. Every once in a blue moon, one person fits both sides.


    Maybe... I'll definitely need to work on my perception of this as well.