Creatine supplements?

  • hartfan

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    Oct 30, 2008 11:21 AM GMT
    Hi everyone,

    How important are creatine supplements in a training regime for bulking up? I'm already taking whey protein supplements. Thanks.
  • twentyfourhou...

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    Oct 30, 2008 3:17 PM GMT
    Creatine - i started adding it to my protein shakes about 3 years ago.
    I may be biased and it may be all in my head but, i feel there is a + difference with it. I used micronized creatine as directed. I do not feel it gives me increase bulk or mass but do feel i am able to lift heaveir wts with it. And this is the psychological boost i need sometimes. I go off all supplements every few months for a week or so to try and "shock" my system. I also did not gain wt as some have reported with it.
    I also have experimented by just using the protein supplement alone. I seem to loose the benefit i have described.

    I would suggest you try it, give it at least 6-8 weeks and go from there.
    BTW - it does not replace healthy eating habits, getting enough sleep, and i guess is only good for wt lifting - not sure what it would do for aerobic endurance - i suspect very little.
  • UFJocknerd

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    Nov 28, 2008 8:14 PM GMT
    Creatine and protein do vastly different things. Here you go. http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/dimaggio2.htm
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    Nov 28, 2008 8:20 PM GMT
    If you've got the money, definitely use quality protein and creatine supplements because with good supplements you can achieve results in 19 months that takes someone not using supplements about 20 months to accomplish the same results! That saves you a full month of workouts over the course of about 2 years of working out, which is great.

    Cost-wise, however, it may not be great: $50/month x 20 months is about a thousand dollars. So if a thousand dollars is worth reducing that month, then go for it.

    Also, be VERY careful and do you research on quality supplements whereby ALL ingredients within them are made here in the USA or in northern European countries only. To save money, many import whey and other amino acid compounds from China or worse, and if you're been reading the news you know about all the deaths and disfigurements caused by China's milk thinning programs. So be careful.

    You may want to consider actually heating healthily rather than using supplements, such as eating actual eggs (e.g., omega-3 brown eggs), drinking actual milk, eating yogurt, fresh vegetables, fresh fruits, grilled salmon or other fishes, etc.

  • mikeeugene

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    Nov 28, 2008 8:22 PM GMT
    Do I currently take Creatine? yes
    Do I wonder if it will be safe over the long term? yes

    I did go to the site that UF recommended: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/dimaggio2.htm


    "Anybody over 200 pounds can take 10 grams quite safely provided that they drink sufficient fluids (to avoid cramping)."

    This may explain why I've had some problems cramping, including a crazy ab muscle cramp last week after lifting when I did a bunch of crunches. It kind of freaked me out.
  • josephmovie

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    Nov 28, 2008 8:26 PM GMT
    I tried it and it made no difference at all. In fact, it made me feel sick for an hour or so after taking. Stick to good old fashioned clean eating. I got more results when I started getting serious about my diet.

    Plus I'm always concened just how harmless these 'safe' supplements are.
  • UFJocknerd

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    Nov 29, 2008 6:56 PM GMT
    americanjustin saidIf you've got the money, definitely use quality protein and creatine supplements because with good supplements you can achieve results in 19 months that takes someone not using supplements about 20 months to accomplish the same results! That saves you a full month of workouts over the course of about 2 years of working out, which is great.

    Cost-wise, however, it may not be great: $50/month x 20 months is about a thousand dollars. So if a thousand dollars is worth reducing that month, then go for it.[...]


    Huh? Where on earth do you buy your supplements that they're costing you $50 a month? Supplementing with protein and creatine should cost a fraction of that. A 2-month supply of protein costs me about $40, and creatine costs about as much as its packaging.

    I've used creatine for a few years. I've had good experiences with it and nothing aversive. But you do have to drink lots of water.
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    Nov 29, 2008 7:02 PM GMT
    Creatine makes my face look like the man in the moon -- major bloating.

    My doctor actually insisted I stop taking it because of results of some blood work.
  • JohnDallas

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    Nov 29, 2008 7:37 PM GMT
    The purpose of creatine is to help the body to produce energy. It is required in the energy system utilized during intense exercise.

    Your body does produce it naturally however it will be more readily available if you supplement it.

    One common misconception is that your body needs it to recover. That is a myth. It is only used during exercise therefore only supplement prior to your workout.

    It will give you added energy during you workout and help you get your final reps.

    Some people do have side effects such as water retention. But I have never experienced that.

    I recommend No Xplode or Hyper Shock. They also contain nitrogen which is needed in a separate energy system during exercise.
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    Dec 03, 2008 5:10 PM GMT
    Been there, tried it, realized I didn't need it.

    It can actually have some adverse side effects, something about how hard it is on kidneys to process it, and that you need to cycle taking it if you are going to, to give said organs a rest.

    http://www.menshealth.com/cda/article.do?site=MensHealth&channel=nutrition&category=vitamins.supplements&conitem=c0f0e0b1002b3110VgnVCM10000013281eac____

    I'm with the article though, if you don't NEED it, don't take it.
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    Dec 09, 2008 9:27 PM GMT
    hmm, well I use the ce 2 product on and off for two yrs and I believe it does help to an extent to increase strength but without all the other factors, this wouldnt even benefit
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    Dec 16, 2008 12:59 AM GMT
    I used No Xplode, and it seemed to work for a while. I prefer products that don't require a loading period. Drink plenty of water and as said before make sure to cycle so that your kidneys can rest.
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    Dec 23, 2008 4:07 AM GMT
    Use an ethyl ester based creatine and you will not have the water retention, as mentioned, compared with a monohydrate creatine product. NoXplode isn't considered a "creatine" product.

    I take Cell Mass after my workputs to boost back up my ATP levels and I use NoXplode prior to lifting for energy.

    A good friend of mine is a physician and he states that there is really no need to cycle on and off of creatine if you use an ethyl ester product. The creatine/kidney issue is somewhat of a myth unless a person already has kidney issues.
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    Dec 23, 2008 4:16 AM GMT
    Creatine is pricey, makes you bloaty, gives you gas, and expensive urine.

    Just eat more, you'll make better gains.
  • Hammer89

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    Jan 15, 2009 5:23 PM GMT
    Creatine is a great supplement to help you bulk up, especially if you are taking Whey Protein, or have taken it and just want to try something different. I just have to say though, I am a Type 1 Diabetic for almost 15 years(was diagnosed at 5 years old) and I've spoken with several Nutritionists and Dietitians the past 4 or 5 years to help me with diets to help me build muscle in a reasonable amount of time. Every single one of them warned me, "too much protein/protein supplements in your diet can damage your kidney." Not saying don't take anything, just putting it out there. I find EAS Myoplex works extremely well after a work out, along with a balanced diet. Hope this helps someone.
  • gsh1964

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    Jan 15, 2009 5:40 PM GMT
    ad2mac saidI used No Xplode, and it seemed to work for a while. I prefer products that don't require a loading period. Drink plenty of water and as said before make sure to cycle so that your kidneys can rest.


    I agree with ad2mac

    I use NO-Xplode too. It contains creatine.

    Just remember to follow the directions and drink on an empty stomach and 30-45 minutes before your workout.

    You will get amazing energy and an awesome pump.

    He is also correct about drinking plenty of water, 3 liters (3/4 gallons) of water a day. This will also help in getting rid of extra body fat.

    Go to Bulknutrition.com to get it at a cheaper price than at GNC or any other store.
  • adidas0783

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    Jun 06, 2009 6:29 PM GMT
    I do incorporate protein supplements into diet, along with Kre-Alkalyn 1500 by Sci-Fit....its is a creatine in pill form. There is no pre-loading, bloating, GI upset of any negative effects. It gets digested for maximum absorption into your blood stream.

    As mentioned before, you have to drink plenty of water. I have noticed that I have gained some size and have more powerful pumps when lifting.

    However, I can not stress how important it is to get protein from a healthy, balanced diet - do not nix your veggies, dairy and fruits. Complex carbs and fats (heart healthy) are also a big component.

    Eat more and get plenty of sleep in addition to what you are going to supplement.

    Did I miss anything guys?
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    Jun 07, 2009 12:33 AM GMT
    Gaspari's Size On Creatine in Lemon Artic Ice. I really noticed the difference after the switch to some other micronized creatines that I had been using for a few years. Its pricey but worth it. Have had no side effects