Oct 30, 2008 1:09 PM GMT
I just read today's article on steroids and would like to increase my testosterone production. I've heard of going to Mexico to get them as they are illegal here in US. Thanks and good day to you.
the_spartan saidI just read today's article on steroids and would like to increase my testosterone production.
Sparkycat saidShrinking balls is a myth. I did one steroid cycle and had no shrinkage whatsovever. The shrinking myth is just one of the bogus reasons the anti-steroid crowd uses to discourage their use. Steroids are safe if you use then correctly. If you do roids or even testosterone for hormone replacement therapy you need to inject HCG (human chorionic gonadtrophin). It stimulates the testes to keep working normally. even though there is an external source of testosterone being injected. I used it - did not get it by prescription - and it worked just fine. My testes have not shrunk from the roids, but I used HCG as part of the post cycle therapy to make my tested start working at full speed again. You'll probably have trouble finding a doctor to prescribe it, as most doctors are flaming assholes with poor understanding of male hormone health.
I'm not an expert. Just a guy who likes needles.
JohnG16775 saidI am currently on prescription (Androgel) its working great. Love the energy and wood. :} ps I am healthcare provider and aware of the dangers but its worth it for me.
flex89 saidGet testim cream from the doc, you'll get more bang for your buck.
Red_Hussein_Vespa saidflex89 saidGet testim cream from the doc, you'll get more bang for your buck.
That's what I'm taking, rather expensive, and no results. Plus I always smell like cheap cologne from the scent of this topical gel.
chuckystud3 saidI'm afraid that AZStreaker has provided you with some faulty information.
I don't think so. I think what I said works. I take a simple ZMA by twinlabs and I have more strength and more muscle gain than I have with out it. I also burn fat and my testosterone is up 20% from my last record.....so tell me what faulty info I gave?? STEROIDS WORK?? Yeah...they do and they will shrink your balls...look at yours!
BTW...I do not lift weights. I do walking and hiking only. I do not over exercise and I keep my training light. My muscularity is genetic? Maybe...good living man!!
My advise on keeping testosterone levels up is a natural methood. Some just like chemicals and will never get off them. Yes, I mean steroids. I never have used them thank marry!!
I compiled my list from several good muscle mags and bodybuilder.com
Anabolic Mineral Support Formula
ZMA is the only non-steroidal, all natural dietary supplement that is 100% clinically proven to increase Testosterone levels and increase strength in athletes. Increased muscle tissue growth and recovery can only be accomplished if your body is kept in an anabolic state for a considerable length of time. ZMA will help your body to stay in this anabolic state thereby increasing your body's overall lean muscle mass.
In an eight week double blind, placebo controlled study with college football players, ZMA was found to increase total plasma testosterone levels by 32.4%, increase Insulin-Like Growth Factor by 3.6%, increase free testosterone levels by 33.5%, and increase muscle strength by 11.6%. This study is conclusive because the testosterone levels and IGF-1 levels actually dropped in the placebo group overnight, whereas with the ZMA group, it jumped considerably.
Intense weight lifting, along with heavy exercise will LOWER your testosterone levels to near zero if you train to frequently. Weight training is way more intensive than most folks realize. Moderate exercise will raise it a bit, but, exercise with intensity will, in fact, lower it. (The Discovery Channel series about the Superhuman.)
Testicular atrophy is a temporary effect, and subsides upon discontinuance. Most side effects of AAS / testosterone derivatives happen at very high dose levels, and are very managable. There's a lot of plain garbage floating around about side effects. In men, all side effects (if any) cease upon cessation of testosterone. Testosterone is, after all, natural to your body, and non-toxic, in any way, under about 5000 mg a week. (Typical doses for HRT would range from 200mg to 700mg a week, or even less, so....you'd have to be in the money to take that much...five grams.) A very high level competitive bodybuilder might take as high as 2000mg a weak in periods of heavy caloric intake, but, would often take much less. (Any qualified endo articles.)
Some things, like DHEA, as well, are falsely believed to be a testosterone pre-cursor. In fact, DHEA acts more like estrogen in its method, if you research the matter. (University studies)
I read tons of just plain bogus information on here. I encourage anyone giving advice to do research FIRST.
To address Spartan's issue, after about age 28, or so (earlier in some folks, and a bit later in others) natural test levels decline. Men become more like women. Much of diseases of aging is now thought to be ratios between estrogen and testosterone, rather than testosterone itself. Testosterone has a wide array of positive effects, especially in middle age, and beyond.
In this day and age, it's absolutely silly to not be on HRT therapy. Women have been doing it for decades, but under the premise of "the pill." Men decline on a more gradual curve, but, the benefits of AAS, and HRT, are widely known and documented, and are becoming more so as guys my age INSIST upon it. You'll find yourself protected from many diseases of aging, able to perform at a higher level sexually, and physically, enhanced recovery, less illness, and almost certainly will have a reduction in diseases of middle age, and require less medication (bp meds, cholesterol meds, etc.)
I'd encourage you to go get a testosterone test. If it's low, you can get a compounded prescription for as little as $35.00 monthly. (It's silly to take a patented drug mix and pay $300.00, or more for it, monthly.)
Millions of athletes, and thousands of HIV folks, can give you testimonial positive about the value of androgens.
I'd stay away from the OTC (over the counter) junk, and head straight to the doctor, or black market.
HRT will allow you to sustain a healthier, more active lifestyle for a longer period of time, and with a higher intensity than you could without supplements, and you'll enjoy enhanced mood, lower fat (one of the very most dangerous things), better sexual performance, and improved thought, vision, and BP. You should regard it like a vitamin regimen. Just part of your daily routine.
If you really want to dig into it, you should view any of a number of serious muscle boards that contain a wealth of information on anti-aging and the chemically enhanced athlete.
chuckystud3 saidThe personal attacks are typical of an individual that is not clear-thinking.
You make my point for me.
flex89 saidAzstreaker's what people in the forums community like to call a "flamer" LOL
chuckystud3 saidI'm sorry that you have such a fragile ego.
Quoting what you wrote:
"It's simple...there are many things you can do to increase your testosterone naturally.
1. Work out more..Walking, Biking, Weight training...etc.".
That's simply not true. Intense weight training LOWERS your testosterone.
I won't banter it further with you. Obviously, you refuse any insight, other than your own.
I will not lower myself to your level of decorum.