Joe The Plumber

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    Oct 31, 2008 2:09 PM GMT
    It appears Joe The Plumber told a few lies to Barack Obama. He makes $40,000 a year, doesn't have a license to practice plumbing and has a tax lien against his house.

    Is Joe's 15 minutes fading?

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    Oct 31, 2008 2:17 PM GMT
    He never got 15 seconds of fame in my brain I can tell you. This is why I find elections can be so discouraging. Instead of serious discussions about the issues we get "Joe the Plumber". Politicians have become really cynical about the average intelligence of the voting public if using this character is any example.
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    Oct 31, 2008 5:19 PM GMT
    SurrealLife saidHe never got 15 seconds of fame in my brain I can tell you. This is why I find elections can be so discouraging. Instead of serious discussions about the issues we get "Joe the Plumber". Politicians have become really cynical about the average intelligence of the voting public if using this character is any example.


    For the GOP to be hauling out this nearly-fictional caricature is a big insult to the intelligence of the American voter.
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    Oct 31, 2008 5:22 PM GMT
    StanleyHusseinWilson said
    For the GOP to be hauling out this nearly-fictional caricature is a big insult to the intelligence of the American voter.


    You're 100% right. I have already said this before, but I can't help but think that McCain is stuck dragging this guy around now because no longer has a choice but to do so... after all, he invoked him in the first place. But still, I think it is also poetic justice that the GOP now has as a mascot a tax-evading, ill-informed, white, Christian, heterosexual male who not only sold himself and his fake-ass image out to the Man, but also one who failed to come when called in Ohio like the good doggie he was supposed to be to them. How perfectly fitting!

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    Oct 31, 2008 5:35 PM GMT
    Sadly, SurrealLife, I don't think politicians have become cynical about the average American's intelligence - I think they've become realistic. I mean, lots of people are being swayed by this sort of stuff, and in both political directions.

    Unfortunately, considering the average American reading level is something near 8th grade proficiency... politicians may be right, many American's aren't too bright. If this sort of tactic works - of course they use it.
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    Oct 31, 2008 5:41 PM GMT
    I still wonder if this man was a McCain plant. The whole premise of who he was was a lie. No plumber, way way to buy the company he claims. He was just a fraud.
  • auryn

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    Oct 31, 2008 5:54 PM GMT
    Who is this Joe the Plumber? Are you talking about Sam the Handi-man?
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    Oct 31, 2008 6:20 PM GMT
    I agree with all of the above, this is such an indicator of the level to which that campaign has sunk and remains. To make matters worse, the fact that he's travelling with McCain causes me to worry that, in fact, some people actually find it compelling and important.
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    Oct 31, 2008 6:52 PM GMT
    allencommon saidIs Joe's 15 minutes fading?


    No because you are clearly giving him even more attention by making a thread about him.

    I have no idea why this scenario even got blown out of proportion to begin with. Provided everything Joe the Dumber says is true (which it probably isn't), Obama said RIGHT THERE in front of him that WITH Obama's tax cuts, Joe would have been able to save more money in his current tax bracket and thus been able to start his business sooner.

    CASE CLOSED!

    Now I want to see some mother fucking naked pictures of Joe. He's kinda hot. And fat. I love kinda hot fat white guys.
  • OutdoorAdvent...

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    Oct 31, 2008 6:53 PM GMT
    Maybe he and McCain are lovers.
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    Oct 31, 2008 7:28 PM GMT
    HndsmKansan saidI still wonder if this man was a McCain plant. The whole premise of who he was was a lie. No plumber, way way to buy the company he claims. He was just a fraud.


    I think he's a plant. But what I (love/hate) about "Joe" is that he's a completely self-serving plant. He now has a nashville publicist and is currently aimming for a country music deal and a book deal. The man is cashing in on his 15 minutes. Whatever happened to that plumber business dream?

    So as much as I hate that this man is making money off of a lot of ignorant people...he symbolizes the current republican party manifested as a human. Morally pious, easily corrupt. Opportunistic. Full of lies.
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    Oct 31, 2008 7:34 PM GMT
    CollegeGuy2009 saidUnfortunately, considering the average American reading level is something near 8th grade proficiency... politicians may be right, many American's aren't too bright. If this sort of tactic works - of course they use it.


    Exactly, CollegeGuy. It has been working for 8 years, and there's no reason for the overconfident Republicans to sway away from the 1960's Donna Reed Show/Leave it to Beaver view of the world that Republicans not only seemed to have, but as you can tell from the posts on RJ, still do. They yearn for an America that exists only in their minds, and, if in reality, in very few households.

    So, if the Joe the Plumber doesn't meet that image in reality, well just create a bit of disinformation to make him fit.
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    Oct 31, 2008 7:36 PM GMT
    CollegeGuy2009 saidSadly, SurrealLife, I don't think politicians have become cynical about the average American's intelligence - I think they've become realistic. I mean, lots of people are being swayed by this sort of stuff, and in both political directions.

    Unfortunately, considering the average American reading level is something near 8th grade proficiency... politicians may be right, many American's aren't too bright. If this sort of tactic works - of course they use it.


    I completely agree. Although I would peg the average American reading level at around 5th or 6th grade. But I love it whenever one of those poster characters for the GOP backfires in its face. The so-called party of family values is a shameless sham.
  • joeindallas

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    Oct 31, 2008 8:58 PM GMT
    One his name is not JOE His name is SAM liek to make him SAM my B&tch bet he woudl be GREAT at it
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    Oct 31, 2008 9:43 PM GMT


    Diane Sawyer interviews Joe The Plumber.

    He claims no one contacted him - YEAH RIGHT!