Baby = dog or a cat ?

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    Oct 31, 2008 9:03 PM GMT
    So I watch a peta video, since someone on another topic posted a video from peta. What I find shocking is that they compare a babies life to that of an animal. WTF. Does anyone think they comparison is okay or correct?icon_mad.gif




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    Oct 31, 2008 10:23 PM GMT
    frankly, i'm shocked that you're shocked. the first video makes an excellent point. what's the problem? (i would add in, however, that humans DO, in fact, breed interminably and rather indiscriminantly) as a species we really aren't any better than dogs/cats in heat (actually they're probably better than us as a species, given their comparitive carbon footprints).

    the second video can be corelated to humans insisting on thinking their dna is so valuable that they have to make more of themselves, rather than adopt a child out of poverty/neglect. what's the point of waxing poetic over abortion if there aren't any homes for the children that are kept? again... what's the problem?

    i think human ego keeps us from recognizing exactly how important we are when compared to anything else on this planet: not very.

    so, i guess that answers your question: i think the comparison is both okay and correct.
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    Oct 31, 2008 10:33 PM GMT
    ...an animal doesnt have feelings? ....an animal doesnt suffer?

    I think they show a very valid point: You wouldnt toss a baby out, you shouldnt toss an animal out too. ...Animal lives are valid, too!

    The thought of either of my cats suffering is sickening to me.

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    Oct 31, 2008 10:45 PM GMT
    Agreed with Caslon and Dancer.

    Humans put themselves on a huge pedestal. The natural world would be a better place without us. The fact that we have domesticated dogs and other animals for our own purposes has taken them out of nature. Therefore they can't just exist. If they're born in the wild, humans take them, lock them in cages, and kill them for no larger a crime than not having a human home to go to. Nothing that we do has a positive effect on the environment at all unless we're thinking consciously about it.
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    Oct 31, 2008 10:46 PM GMT
    tru dat!

    let a muthafucka mess with my pussy, and see if i don't go ape shit on them! i like my cat better than i like my cousins... make a video about THAT. mnah! icon_wink.gif

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    Oct 31, 2008 10:46 PM GMT


    We did this surgery to our cat so she can't give birth anymore .. and I found lot's of people who disagree and start blubing about : "this is the way of nature you musn't stop it " , "you are just a human , you are not allowed to decide for the animals how to live or breed " ...

    And I just can't convince them how important is this .. my cat gave birth twice , now only one of her kittens is alive .. people can't understand that preventing something before it happens is better that kill it after it happens ...icon_sad.gif

    sad..
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    Oct 31, 2008 10:59 PM GMT
    As much as I could care less about animals, had a few bad experiences when I was younger, some of the posters above me(not the video) made some valid points. Mainly that all life is sacred and second that we, the human race, are wrapped in the same animal skin the rest of the animal kingdom is wrapped in. We are NOT gods because we are still subject to natural law, same as every other living creature on this planet. An inflated sense of superiority will not make you invulnerable to death/disease/harm.

    I disagree with the video because it sets out to compare the human INTELLECT, that is our ability to think and reason as comparative to that of an unreasoning animal. The very thing that sets us apart from animals is are ability to THINK and REASON. That's why people can keep it in their pants or live day to day in civilized society. We're able to come to the conclussion that our actions and behaviors benefit not only ourselves but the rest of society as well.

    Overinflated sense of superiority = unfounded.

    Ability to think/reason on a significantly higher level than an animal = valid
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    Oct 31, 2008 11:34 PM GMT
    at least this time they didnt compare the murdered jews in the holocaust to murdered non-human animals.

    id say peta finally demonstrated some tact for once in the above ad




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    ugh, i hate peta
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    Oct 31, 2008 11:35 PM GMT


    Hmmm, the video is really comparing a pregnant woman to an unfixed dog or cat. That is completely different than the original suggestion of comparing a dog or cat to a baby.

    They are however equating a kitten or puppy to a baby and are correct. They all are babies.

    This is an excellent video. We know people who go on and on to their kids about getting unfixed pets pregnant and some do so the kids can see the 'miracle of life'. We dryly point out that those kids will then get to experience the 'miracle of death' when all those unwanted babies are euthanized.
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    Nov 01, 2008 1:11 AM GMT
    while comparing the Holocaust to animal slaughter may be not the most senstive comparison, everyone should be see where their food comes from and the suffering those animals go through. I bet a lot of people would become vegetarians.
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    Nov 01, 2008 1:24 AM GMT
    Both videos are excellent and make valid points. The first is meant to shock you...it is supposed to make you think.
    My dog was found by a friend, shivering under his porch in the middle of a rainstorm. He tried for weeks to find her owners, but to no avail. When I adopted her one of the first things I did was take her to the vet to have her spayed. It is the only responsible thing to do.