McCain Supporters.....this is for you!

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    Oct 31, 2008 10:46 PM GMT
    I think this guy covers all the basics of why some people will not vote for Obama.

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    Oct 31, 2008 10:50 PM GMT
    Here is another one and no matter which side you are for I support this guy for voicing strongly, his opinion.

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    Oct 31, 2008 11:00 PM GMT
    i really think we need more than two parties... he was just as ridiculous as any other talking head i've ever seen. i was at least listening to him until the end when he started undermining himself with apples to oranges comparisons from hollywood and looney tunes. i just wish this whole election were over already.

    i think i'm going to vote for the green party afterall. obama doesn't need me.
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    Oct 31, 2008 11:11 PM GMT
    just watched the second video... he's no better than anyone else really... i'm so exhausted of "a vs b" and "black vs white..." life is so much more complicated than the polarities our two-party system espouses. it's divisive, uninformed, anti-creative, and oversimplistic. there is no gradient anymore. neither republicans nor democrats speak for me. the parties/candidates that would be the best for us are the very ones who can't even get interviews with the press.
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    Oct 31, 2008 11:52 PM GMT
    dancerjack saidjust watched the second video... he's no better than anyone else really... i'm so exhausted of "a vs b" and "black vs white..." life is so much more complicated than the polarities our two-party system espouses. it's divisive, uninformed, anti-creative, and oversimplistic. there is no gradient anymore. neither republicans nor democrats speak for me. the parties/candidates that would be the best for us are the very ones who can't even get interviews with the press.


    Well there's a ton of third parties out there. Mind pointing to any particular ones you favor and offer reasons to support that party, its leaders, and how they've impacted people's lives?
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    Nov 01, 2008 12:02 AM GMT
    By the way, I profess to be a Libertarian-Market supporting-Democratic-Constitutionist-Socialist. So even though I support Obama, I don't like being pegged as a democrat (democrat with a small d) or even an "anarcho-socialist".

    Do I support what that guy believe in? Sure. Do I think he's a dumbass (even if this was just satire)? Yes.
  • Barricade

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    Nov 01, 2008 2:31 AM GMT
    icon_rolleyes.gif I wonder if he's an actor?
  • alleykatt

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    Nov 01, 2008 2:52 AM GMT
    Libertarians and socialists are polar opposites.

    Is that what you meant, CitizenSol? That you have opinions held from the full spectrum?

    I wish there were viable options in this two party system. Sadly I know a green party vote is a vote against Obama and a libertarian vote is a vote against McCain.

    I'm a libertarian.... for some I like people to know that.
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    Nov 01, 2008 3:25 AM GMT
    Chizzad, didn't we agree not to post more political threads?icon_evil.gif
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    Nov 01, 2008 3:51 AM GMT
    Chizzad saidHere is another one and no matter which side you are for I support this guy for voicing strongly, his opinion.



    Yeah. I am glad he has an opinion and is expressing it. But I think he is so wrong on so many things. Just because Republicans are Pro Life does not mean they care for the woman and or baby any more than a non republican.

    not to be racist in any way. I feel removed from the Black experience and this election shows that the Republicans have been playing the race card against Obama. Bush even used the race card against McCain and he is doing the same thing to Obama. Palin is just a nut case. I do not think she even knows waht she is saying. So how can anyone with any decent common sence vote for HATE.
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    Nov 01, 2008 4:40 AM GMT
    dancerjack saidi really think we need more than two parties... he was just as ridiculous as any other talking head i've ever seen. i was at least listening to him until the end when he started undermining himself with apples to oranges comparisons from hollywood and looney tunes. i just wish this whole election were over already.

    i think i'm going to vote for the green party afterall. obama doesn't need me.


    Me too, and we for sure need a third party. My Captain and I talk about it all the time.
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    Nov 01, 2008 6:12 AM GMT
    Chizzad said
    dancerjack saidi really think we need more than two parties... he was just as ridiculous as any other talking head i've ever seen. i was at least listening to him until the end when he started undermining himself with apples to oranges comparisons from hollywood and looney tunes. i just wish this whole election were over already.

    i think i'm going to vote for the green party afterall. obama doesn't need me.


    Me too, and we for sure need a third party. My Captain and I talk about it all the time.
    There are actually several parties:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Us_political_parties

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_the_United_States

    Here is a short list:
    * Democratic Party (1828 modern, 1792 historic)
    * Republican Party (1854)
    * Libertarian Party (1971)
    * Constitution Party (1992)
    * Green Party (1996)

    I you want another party you have to just vote for it! contribute money to it, etc. Since political parties consist of constituents only you the people can make it work. No one else can do it for you.
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    Nov 01, 2008 7:20 AM GMT
    I think it is sad the amount of people who vote "party" instead of issues/person. I grew up in a home where only Democrates were voted for, regardless of who they were or what they stood for. I work with people who will only vote Republican. Most people feel that Democrates are for the poor or middle class and Rebuplicans are for the rich, which might be true, but they are each out for themselves.

    This election is no better. If a person votes for Obama they are voting "black." If they vote for McCain they are a racist. It's a no win situation. Both candidates are lacking. Both candidates have running mates that are not qualified to run this country should something happen to the President. Most politicans can't be trusted to do what they promise anyway; they will all say what is needed to get elected and then do their own agenda once is office.

    I think it is pretty disheartening that Obama and McCain are the best we have to offer the people out of all the millions of Americans.

    Okay, I'm done. Thanks for letting me rant. icon_rolleyes.gif

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    Nov 01, 2008 8:35 AM GMT
    [quote][cite]alleykatt said[/cite]Libertarians and socialists are polar opposites.

    Is that what you meant, CitizenSol? That you have opinions held from the full spectrum?
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    Yes and no. Modern day U.S. libertarianism is different from socialism but libertarianism in its conception referred to the combination of small to no government and the collective ownership of property. Libertarianism went through a transformation where proponents of capitalism took the anti-government ideal of libertarianism and left out the socialism/communism part.

    Socialism doesn't necessarily mean statist control of the means of production. It means social (collective) control of the means of production. This can be manifested through government means or voluntary unions (cooperatives, guilds, syndicates).

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    Nov 01, 2008 8:46 AM GMT
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    Chizzad said
    dancerjack saidi really think we need more than two parties... he was just as ridiculous as any other talking head i've ever seen. i was at least listening to him until the end when he started undermining himself with apples to oranges comparisons from hollywood and looney tunes. i just wish this whole election were over already.

    i think i'm going to vote for the green party afterall. obama doesn't need me.


    Me too, and we for sure need a third party. My Captain and I talk about it all the time.
    There are actually several parties:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Us_political_parties

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_the_United_States

    Here is a short list:
    * Democratic Party (1828 modern, 1792 historic)
    * Republican Party (1854)
    * Libertarian Party (1971)
    * Constitution Party (1992)
    * Green Party (1996)

    I you want another party you have to just vote for it! contribute money to it, etc. Since political parties consist of constituents only you the people can make it work. No one else can do it for you.


    Seriously. I'm so sick of the "I hate both parties" cry babies. Neither the democratic party or the republican party rose to prominence without a shit load of hard work and dedication and sheer historical luck. Honestly, there's a party out there for everyone. And if I'm wrong and there isn't, start your own.
  • GQjock

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    Nov 01, 2008 8:51 AM GMT
    And THIS guy is supposed to sway people's minds?

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    Nov 01, 2008 9:05 AM GMT
    krush said
    Chizzad saidHere is another one and no matter which side you are for I support this guy for voicing strongly, his opinion.



    Yeah. I am glad he has an opinion and is expressing it. But I think he is so wrong on so many things. Just because Republicans are Pro Life does not mean they care for the woman and or baby any more than a non republican.

    not to be racist in any way. I feel removed from the Black experience and this election shows that the Republicans have been playing the race card against Obama. Bush even used the race card against McCain and he is doing the same thing to Obama. Palin is just a nut case. I do not think she even knows waht she is saying. So how can anyone with any decent common sence vote for HATE.


    You see, I'm not a very racially centered person. I don't like Al Shapton or Jesse Jackson. But I'm not clueless enough to believe that the republican party is not a white dominated party. I don't know if people have missed this but what we're watching is the past versus the future. No offense to white people but the trends are pointing to a caucasianless future and a future full of multiracial color. Look at the faces in an Obama-Biden rally and the faces at an McCain-Palin rally. The differences couldn't be more vivid.

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    Nov 01, 2008 9:19 AM GMT
    Chizzad saidHere is another one and no matter which side you are for I support this guy for voicing strongly, his opinion.



    REPUBLICAN CAMPAIGN FAIL!!!!!! icon_lol.gif
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    Nov 01, 2008 9:26 AM GMT
    Maverick75 said
    Chizzad saidHere is another one and no matter which side you are for I support this guy for voicing strongly, his opinion.



    REPUBLICAN CAMPAIGN FAIL!!!!!! icon_lol.gif


    The biggest problem I have with this video is that I hate when guys that I think are hot do this bullshit. First Joe the plumber, now this guy.
  • coolarmydude

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    Nov 01, 2008 9:59 AM GMT
    Meet Jerome the Actor.