Update - IRS Scandal: IRS chief counsel implicated (Obama appointee); All 501(C)(4)'s audited were Conservative

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    Jun 13, 2013 2:06 PM GMT
    http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/13/chief-counsel-in-lawsuit-against-irs-top-democrat-cummings-claim-is-ridiculous/

    “Based upon everything I’ve seen, the case is solved. And if it were me, I would wrap this case up and move on, to be frank with you,” Cummings then said on CNN.

    But Cummings’ claim is absurd in the face of clear evidence that the IRS targeting was planned out of Washington, said Sekulow.

    “That’s ridiculous. [Cummings' claim] is nonsense. We know that Lois Lerner was sending letters to tea party groups from Washington. We know that at least four different offices were involved, according to our documentation. Other IRS employees are saying that Washington was involved,” Sekulow told The Daily Caller.

    Washington-based IRS lawyer and registered Democrat Carter C. Hull personally oversaw the agency’s targeting in Cincinnati, according to interviews that two Cincinnati-based IRS employees gave to congressional investigators.

    “I was essentially a front person, because I had no autonomy or no authority to act on [applications] without Carter Hull’s influence or input,” Elizabeth Hofacre, an employee of the Cincinnati IRS office, said in an interview with congressional investigators. Another Cincinnati IRS employee said that Washington was “basically throwing us underneath the bus.”
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    Jun 13, 2013 2:14 PM GMT
    Republicans still struggling to connect Obama to IRS scandal
    "So far, the House Oversight Committee’s investigation of the Internal Revenue Service and its targeting of Tea Party groups has yielded no evidence that the White House was involved. The original story — that this was the work of a few employees struggling to handle a growing workload — remains intact, and the available information we have throws water on the idea they were motivated by partisanship."

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/06/12/republicans-still-struggling-to-connect-obama-to-irs-scandal/
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    Jun 13, 2013 2:19 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 saidRepublicans still struggling to connect Obama to IRS scandal
    "So far, the House Oversight Committee’s investigation of the Internal Revenue Service and its targeting of Tea Party groups has yielded no evidence that the White House was involved. The original story — that this was the work of a few employees struggling to handle a growing workload — remains intact, and the available information we have throws water on the idea they were motivated by partisanship."

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/06/12/republicans-still-struggling-to-connect-obama-to-irs-scandal/


    Heh - keep parroting that line - especially as Democrats keep claiming that (a) there's no scandal - despite the fact that even the Obama Administration has pointed out that there is one and (b) the investigation is far from over. How many days has it been since the scandal broke?
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    Jun 13, 2013 2:49 PM GMT
    George F. Will: There's more, much more, to the Lois Lerner story

    http://www.twincities.com/opinion/ci_23445937/george-f-will-theres-more-much-more-lois

    Lerner, it is prudent to assume, is one among thousands like her who infest the regulatory state. She is not just a bureaucratic bully and a slithering partisan; she also is a national security problem, because she is contributing to a comprehensive distrust of government.
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    Jun 13, 2013 2:50 PM GMT
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/12/fox-news-poll-irs-targeting-intentional-act-to-punish-political-opponents-most/
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    Jun 13, 2013 3:36 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 saidRepublicans still struggling to connect Obama to IRS scandal
    "So far, the House Oversight Committee’s investigation of the Internal Revenue Service and its targeting of Tea Party groups has yielded no evidence that the White House was involved. The original story — that this was the work of a few employees struggling to handle a growing workload — remains intact, and the available information we have throws water on the idea they were motivated by partisanship."

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/06/12/republicans-still-struggling-to-connect-obama-to-irs-scandal/


    A leader need not explicitly order something - his subordinates may simply act on what they see as his wishes.

    One of the most famous cases in point:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Becket

    "Upon hearing reports of Becket's actions, Henry is said to have uttered words that were interpreted by his men as wishing Becket killed.[9] The king's exact words are in doubt and several versions have been reported.[10] The most commonly quoted, as handed down by oral tradition, is "Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?",[11] but according to historian Simon Schama this is incorrect: he accepts the account of the contemporary biographer Edward Grim, writing in Latin, who gives us "What miserable drones and traitors have I nourished and brought up in my household, who let their lord be treated with such shameful contempt by a low-born cleric?"[12] Many variations have found their way into popular culture.

    Whatever Henry said, it was interpreted as a royal command, and four knights,[9] Reginald fitzUrse, Hugh de Morville, William de Tracy, and Richard le Breton,[1] set out to confront the Archbishop of Canterbury."
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    Jun 18, 2013 1:01 AM GMT
    http://news.yahoo.com/irs-supervisor-dc-scrutinized-tea-party-cases-222846717.html

    An Internal Revenue Service supervisor in Washington says she was personally involved in scrutinizing some of the earliest applications from tea party groups seeking tax-exempt status, including some requests that languished for more than a year without action.

    Holly Paz, who until recently was a top deputy in the division that handles applications for tax-exempt status, told congressional investigators she reviewed 20 to 30 applications. Her assertion contradicts initial claims by the agency that a small group of agents working in an office in Cincinnati were solely responsible for mishandling the applications.

    Paz, however, provided no evidence that senior IRS officials ordered agents to target conservative groups or that anyone in the Obama administration outside the IRS was involved.
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    Jun 19, 2013 4:24 PM GMT
    Quite the checkered past.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darrell_Issa

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    Jun 19, 2013 4:59 PM GMT
    The Great Battle Over the IRS Scandal Enters the Please-Let-It-End Phase

    http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/06/great-battle-over-irs-scandal-enters-let-it-end-already-phase/66373/
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    Jun 19, 2013 7:00 PM GMT
    meninlove said Quite the checkered past.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darrell_Issa



    Heh - that's what you'd like to think. You could say the same about Obama.
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    Jun 19, 2013 7:08 PM GMT
    well maybe in a non-partisan way we can all be concerned about the fact that the FBI director admitted to using drones today on US Soil.



    In addition the CEO of AP says that regular government informants to the press has essentially STOPPED.

    The James Rosen and AP scandals has had a big effect on reporting on the government. Considering these officials are very bad ad self reporting especially to congress. What can we do without an effective press?

    AP CEO Says Government Sources Won’t Talk After Justice Department Probe


    http://www.buzzfeed.com/evanmcsan/ap-ceo-details-chilling-effect-after-dept-of-justice-seized

    it maybe time for a constitutional convention on constraining the Federal government in a clear and concise way.

    If you do not know about abuse and the government seems ok with skirting warrants this is a severe unchecked power.
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    Jun 19, 2013 7:12 PM GMT
    Death panels!!
    Fake birth certificate!!
    IRS!!
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    Jun 19, 2013 7:46 PM GMT
    riddler78 said
    meninlove said Quite the checkered past.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darrell_Issa



    Heh - that's what you'd like to think.


    uhhhh...are you saying the info in the link is wrong or lying?
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    Jun 19, 2013 11:27 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    riddler78 said
    meninlove said Quite the checkered past.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darrell_Issa



    Heh - that's what you'd like to think.


    uhhhh...are you saying the info in the link is wrong or lying?


    Did I say that? You purposely omit my complete statement:
    "Heh - that's what you'd like to think. You could say the same about Obama."

    Why do you so deliberately attempt to confuse and lie?
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    Jun 20, 2013 2:45 PM GMT
    "IRS Employee Used Politics Test Executive Said Didn’t Exist (1)"

    http://www.businessweek.com/news/2013-06-19/irs-employee-used-politics-test-an-executive-said-didn-t-exist
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    Jun 24, 2013 7:47 PM GMT
    "Rep. Elijah Cummings says the House investigation is a 'witch hunt.' Yet revealing evidence keeps coming."

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324577904578557274272099196.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LatestHeadlines
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    Jun 25, 2013 12:12 AM GMT
    People should go to jail for this. First for the actual crimes, second for the coverup.

    "The Internal Revenue Service's screening of groups seeking tax-exempt status was broader and lasted longer than has been previously disclosed, the new head of the agency acknowledged Monday. Terms including "Israel," ''Progressive" and "Occupy" were used by agency workers to help pick groups for closer examination, according to an internal IRS document obtained by The Associated Press."

    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/new-irs-chief-inappropriate-screening-was-broader
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    Jun 25, 2013 1:42 AM GMT
    The republican IRS Scandal
    Like trying to fit you Dick into a Nostril

    ..... Wait if you ....Just .... hold ...still a minute icon_rolleyes.gif

    You Inquisitor Issa is an embarrassment
    But don't make him stop ... he's losing seats EVERY TIME he convenes a committee

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    Jun 25, 2013 1:51 AM GMT
    riddler78 saidPeople should go to jail for this. First for the actual crimes, second for the coverup.

    "The Internal Revenue Service's screening of groups seeking tax-exempt status was broader and lasted longer than has been previously disclosed, the new head of the agency acknowledged Monday. Terms including "Israel," ''Progressive" and "Occupy" were used by agency workers to help pick groups for closer examination, according to an internal IRS document obtained by The Associated Press."

    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/new-irs-chief-inappropriate-screening-was-broader

    Please explain why a Chinese Canadian (allegedly) has any interest in US politics? And keeps spamming anti-US propaganda here? About which he has no apparent interest or knowledge? Or DO you?
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    Jun 25, 2013 1:57 AM GMT
    ART_DECO said
    riddler78 saidPeople should go to jail for this. First for the actual crimes, second for the coverup.

    "The Internal Revenue Service's screening of groups seeking tax-exempt status was broader and lasted longer than has been previously disclosed, the new head of the agency acknowledged Monday. Terms including "Israel," ''Progressive" and "Occupy" were used by agency workers to help pick groups for closer examination, according to an internal IRS document obtained by The Associated Press."

    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/new-irs-chief-inappropriate-screening-was-broader

    Please explain why a Chinese Canadian (allegedly) has any interest in US politics? And keeps spamming anti-US propaganda here? About which he has no apparent interest or knowledge? Or DO you?
    Considerably more knowledge than you. But that's really not saying much is it?
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    Jun 25, 2013 2:01 AM GMT
    riddler78 said
    ART_DECO said
    riddler78 saidPeople should go to jail for this. First for the actual crimes, second for the coverup.

    "The Internal Revenue Service's screening of groups seeking tax-exempt status was broader and lasted longer than has been previously disclosed, the new head of the agency acknowledged Monday. Terms including "Israel," ''Progressive" and "Occupy" were used by agency workers to help pick groups for closer examination, according to an internal IRS document obtained by The Associated Press."

    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/new-irs-chief-inappropriate-screening-was-broader

    Please explain why a Chinese Canadian (allegedly) has any interest in US politics? And keeps spamming anti-US propaganda here? About which he has no apparent interest or knowledge? Or DO you?
    Considerably more knowledge than you. But that's really not saying much is it?

    That's an evasion. You can't answer the question, can you?
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    Jun 25, 2013 2:12 AM GMT
    ART_DECO said
    riddler78 said
    ART_DECO said
    riddler78 saidPeople should go to jail for this. First for the actual crimes, second for the coverup.

    "The Internal Revenue Service's screening of groups seeking tax-exempt status was broader and lasted longer than has been previously disclosed, the new head of the agency acknowledged Monday. Terms including "Israel," ''Progressive" and "Occupy" were used by agency workers to help pick groups for closer examination, according to an internal IRS document obtained by The Associated Press."

    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/new-irs-chief-inappropriate-screening-was-broader

    Please explain why a Chinese Canadian (allegedly) has any interest in US politics? And keeps spamming anti-US propaganda here? About which he has no apparent interest or knowledge? Or DO you?
    Considerably more knowledge than you. But that's really not saying much is it?

    That's an evasion. You can't answer the question, can you?


    Hardly - I've previously answered your questions directly and on point. The fact that you keep asking them is hardly my problem or an evasion. And the response is the same: I apparently have considerably more knowledge on these subjects that you do - and again, that's not saying much.
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    Jun 25, 2013 1:17 PM GMT
    "IRS Chief Admits Improper Screening Went on Until Last Month"

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/US-IRS-Political-Groups/2013/06/24/id/511588
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    Jun 25, 2013 1:33 PM GMT
    riddler78 said
    meninlove said Quite the checkered past.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darrell_Issa



    Heh - that's what you'd like to think. You could say the same about Obama.

    Except with Issa it's true, for Obama is just right wing BS.
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    Jun 25, 2013 2:36 PM GMT
    smartmoney said
    riddler78 said
    meninlove said Quite the checkered past.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darrell_Issa



    Heh - that's what you'd like to think. You could say the same about Obama.

    Except with Issa it's true, for Obama is just right wing BS.
    Said the leftwing extremist icon_rolleyes.gif