The Adonis Factor

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    Jun 15, 2013 5:22 AM GMT
    Has anyone watched this? It's on Netflix. What did you think?

    http://www.theadonisfactor.com/
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    Jun 15, 2013 5:34 AM GMT
    It's an interesting documentary and lots of the points made are very accurate. When my ex-bf moved to Atlanta, he buffed up and got into the party scene. He made a lot of new "friends" in the process and guys would keep hitting on him. When he was hospitalized (for reasons he won't disclose but I have a good guess), none of the so called friends visited him. Only friends he made outside the scene, which was very little, went to see him.

    So it made me wonder after watching the documentary and what my ex went through, if trying to look like an adonis is worth it. My answer is no!
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    Jun 15, 2013 6:45 AM GMT
    Erik101 saidIt's an interesting documentary and lots of the points made are very accurate. When my ex-bf moved to Atlanta, he buffed up and got into the party scene. He made a lot of new "friends" in the process and guys would keep hitting on him. When he was hospitalized (for reasons he won't disclose but I have a good guess), none of the so called friends visited him. Only friends he made outside the scene, which was very little, went to see him.

    So it made me wonder after watching the documentary and what my ex went through, if trying to look like an adonis is worth it. My answer is no!


    That's actually very sad. I hope he's doing better now. I think it can be really tough trying to help people grow out of insecurities, or see a friend go through something like that.
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    Jun 15, 2013 7:04 AM GMT
    BruiserDV saidHas anyone watched this? It's on Netflix. What did you think?

    http://www.theadonisfactor.com/


    sad enough, i think the documentary is VERY ACCURATE and sad to be honest. how is it that some guys will NOT even talk to you for a simple conversation if they're not attracted to you? not every single guy on earth is a sex object. you may NOT even be remotely interested in dating them PERIOD. you just want to talk to them about life, about math, about how deep the ocean is and etc BUT they just boil it down to a matter of "this guy isn't attractive so i don't want to speak to him about anything not even ask for directions". like damn, keep that insecurity shit to yourself. i feel as if all that superficial shit is more of a matter of someone being insecure with themselves so they basically are looking for things to make up or compromise it up and it shows. after awhile, it's quite easy to tell who has substance to them where they're fun to be around and who to avoid because they're basically living a lie and a fantasy that doesn't exist. you know, at some point, you're going to have to learn how to basically accept someone for who they are and NOT what you want them to be. life still goes on so screw all that dumb bs. it's not all about appearances and sex.
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    Jun 15, 2013 11:45 AM GMT
    There is a companion piece to that film as well -- The Butch Factor. Both documentaries are very good.
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    Jun 15, 2013 11:55 AM GMT
    I saw it on LOGO. It was very interesting and it had quite a few hot guys. I was offended though by the attitudes of the Adonises that they all had to work hard to keep less attractive men out of their group. So jr high school! Many less attractive people become sexy when you get to know them and can, at least, have a world of good conversation to offer.
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    Jun 15, 2013 12:04 PM GMT
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    Erik101 saidIt's an interesting documentary and lots of the points made are very accurate. When my ex-bf moved to Atlanta, he buffed up and got into the party scene. He made a lot of new "friends" in the process and guys would keep hitting on him. When he was hospitalized (for reasons he won't disclose but I have a good guess), none of the so called friends visited him. Only friends he made outside the scene, which was very little, went to see him.

    So it made me wonder after watching the documentary and what my ex went through, if trying to look like an adonis is worth it. My answer is no!


    That's actually very sad. I hope he's doing better now. I think it can be really tough trying to help people grow out of insecurities, or see a friend go through something like that.


    Thanks Bruiser! From what I last heard, he went back to work and is leading a productive life. But it's all speculation since he has closed off all contact with a lot of his friends since his tragic event. You're right about the insecurities. I just hope he's safe.
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    Jun 15, 2013 12:13 PM GMT
    JohnSpotter saidI saw it on LOGO. It was very interesting and it had quite a few hot guys. I was offended though by the attitudes of the Adonises that they all had to work hard to keep less attractive men out of their group. So jr high school! Many less attractive people become sexy when you get to know them and can, at least, have a world of good conversation to offer.

    The Adonises in that film may have the bodies of gods, but their minds and spirits are in junior high!
  • TheBrad

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    Jun 15, 2013 12:54 PM GMT
    Never heard of this documentary, but as I'm watching it now...it's pretty solid. A community that yearns for equally, but yet, turns around and shuns the next man who isn't as physically fit as them. Sheesh. And not the WHOLE community, just a certain percentage. But, I mean, that's the same with just about every other community...just a different context is at play.
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    Jun 15, 2013 12:56 PM GMT
    All true.
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    Jun 15, 2013 1:23 PM GMT
    Kinda sad really. All the worst of how shallow we can really be.
  • AMoonHawk

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    Jun 15, 2013 1:34 PM GMT
    Haven't seen this .. it looks like a program of about .05 percent of the gay population ... we are way more diverse then that
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    Jun 15, 2013 1:38 PM GMT
    I saw the film and thought it could of been done way better... There was no "bright side" at the end (unless you count the scene about the bears). It made it seem like the ONLY thing we care about are good looks which I think is bs.
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    Jun 15, 2013 6:31 PM GMT
    green_guy saidI saw the film and thought it could of been done way better... There was no "bright side" at the end (unless you count the scene about the bears). It made it seem like the ONLY thing we care about are good looks which I think is bs.

    Even though I haven't seen the video but why do you consider that the only thing gays care about are good looks, physique and genital organs.
    If you clear that barrier then comes the part where people are interested in exploring your inner beauty, can't say if it happens that often.
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    Jun 15, 2013 6:45 PM GMT
    green_guy saidI saw the film and thought it could of been done way better... There was no "bright side" at the end (unless you count the scene about the bears). It made it seem like the ONLY thing we care about are good looks which I think is bs.


    I somewhat agree with you. It just seems exaggerated in that aspect. Looks can be a huge factor in the dating scene, though.
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    Jun 15, 2013 6:49 PM GMT
    That documentary is very true, i watched it before i turned 18, i'm glad i did so now i'm not surprised by how savage like so many gay men seem to love to be
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    Jun 15, 2013 6:56 PM GMT
    green_guy saidI saw the film and thought it could of been done way better... There was no "bright side" at the end (unless you count the scene about the bears). It made it seem like the ONLY thing we care about are good looks which I think is bs.

    Because there is NO bright side, there is only a " bright side " if you're hot, thats the point of the show
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    Jun 15, 2013 7:01 PM GMT
    Aristoshark saidWhich makes you ask the question: Who the fuck wants to know people like that? Or cares what they think?

    Actually you will be surprised if you venture out there in the dating scene, if you don't do it already.
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    Jun 15, 2013 7:09 PM GMT
    I kind of have to agree on how looks still plays an important (perhaps too important?) role not even when it comes to dating but for some people just to consider interacting with another person.
    I've seen a few people complain about their "platonic ugly" friends which still shocks me a little to read whenever something similar does pop up, again though to each their own.

    Although I think this is something that applies to the hetero world too and not just the gay world.
    Maybe it's because the population is vastly smaller in comparison, it just seems more prominent.

    Also, I'm not sure if this particular phenomenon is just strictly related to the "party-party' scene goers.
    I'm sure, or at least I'd like to hope, that when people get over that scene, looks become less of an issue and it becomes more about character.

    In all honesty, there will be people who only relate to a few things in this documentary and there will be others who relate a lot.
    I haven't seen it but there is definitely no denying superficiality exists, albeit also throughout the hetero world too and again it may also seem more concentrated in the gay man's world because men are generally more visually driven.

    Thankfully the adonis factor is not a priority for me at all (which is circumstantial prioritising).
    Anyway just adding food for thought, I meant no harm icon_smile.gif
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    Jun 15, 2013 7:12 PM GMT
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    green_guy saidI saw the film and thought it could of been done way better... There was no "bright side" at the end (unless you count the scene about the bears). It made it seem like the ONLY thing we care about are good looks which I think is bs.

    Because there is NO bright side, there is only a " bright side " if you're hot, thats the point of the show


    hmmm, I actually didn't think of it that way.
    interesting.
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    Jun 15, 2013 7:38 PM GMT
    BryanHawn saidyou don't have to do drugs and steroids to look like an adonis. So my answer is yes


    As long as your myostatin levels aren't too high.
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    Jun 15, 2013 7:44 PM GMT
    bachian said
    BryanHawn saidyou don't have to do drugs and steroids to look like an adonis. So my answer is yes


    As long as your myostatin levels aren't too high.


    *watches video*

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    Jun 15, 2013 8:20 PM GMT
    I find no problem in wanting to have a nice, tight body with muscles. You worked hard for it and deserve the attention. The problem starts when you decide to not befriend individuals because they aren't par with your perception of beauty. If you don't do the former, then all the power to you for hitting the gym and transforming your body into a work of art. If you do discriminate, then you are really the only one who is missing out. Some individuals are a thousand times more beautiful on the inside than their bodies will ever suggest. Just my two cents.
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    Jun 15, 2013 8:28 PM GMT
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    Erik101 saidIt's an interesting documentary and lots of the points made are very accurate. When my ex-bf moved to Atlanta, he buffed up and got into the party scene. He made a lot of new "friends" in the process and guys would keep hitting on him. When he was hospitalized (for reasons he won't disclose but I have a good guess), none of the so called friends visited him. Only friends he made outside the scene, which was very little, went to see him.

    So it made me wonder after watching the documentary and what my ex went through, if trying to look like an adonis is worth it. My answer is no!



    you don't have to do drugs and steroids to look like an adonis. So my answer is yes


    You are correct! But if the purpose of looking like an Adonis is to have gay men gawk at you whenever you take your shirt off, then no thank you! If that's your prerogative, then so be it! And if the true purpose is to model excellent health, then you do NOT have to look like an Adonis because there are plenty of healthy people who are not even close to looking like a Greek God.
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    Jun 15, 2013 10:10 PM GMT
    When you get right down to it movies, tv, print media, radio, and now web zines, all need to be profitable. In order to be profitable they need to be entertaining. Making something entertaining usually means facts and objectivity get short shrift.

    If you want to read something factual and well researched, read some academic paper. Preferably at bedtime because it's going to put you to sleep.