"Only 9 percent of companies now believe Obamacare won’t raise their health care costs significantly"

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    Jun 16, 2013 4:17 AM GMT
    http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2013/06/14/obamacare-round-up-aca-support-in-a-death-spiral/

    With each passing year, people are becoming warier and warier of Obamacare. WSJ has the results of a new survey on attitudes toward the ACA conducted by Mercer. It found that only 9 percent of companies now believe Obamacare won’t raise their health care costs significantly, compared to 20 percent last year and 25 percent in 2011.

    Maybe, just maybe the decline in support has something to do with the information we’ve gotten in recent weeks about the likely costs of insurance under the ACA. It’s becoming clearer every day that the rates on the California exchanges are going to be too high for many Americans, President Obama’s celebratory remarks on California’s lower-than-expected premiums notwithstanding. Even ACA supporters are now saying that the rates are too high.
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    Jun 16, 2013 4:33 AM GMT
    Alas....Canada has Government run healthcare....
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    Jun 16, 2013 11:17 AM GMT
    The evidence suggests government-led healthcare is a lot cheaper than private insurance schemes, without any compromise in quality. (Per capita, $2992 in the UK v $7290 in the US.)

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    Jun 16, 2013 11:30 AM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 saidThe evidence suggests government-led healthcare is a lot cheaper than private insurance schemes, without any compromise in quality. (Per capita, $2992 in the UK v $7290 in the US.)

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    We I America pretend we have the best healthcare, which is not the case and we act like no other country is taking care of the populace is a more affordable manner, while offering better coverage for everyone, it's done in many industrialized countries. The only problem is our elected officials are owned by big insurance companies, that is the only problem.
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    Jun 16, 2013 2:19 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 saidThe evidence suggests government-led healthcare is a lot cheaper than private insurance schemes, without any compromise in quality. (Per capita, $2992 in the UK v $7290 in the US.)

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    Let's ignore for a moment that your data was tainted by a lobbying organization run by a naked partisan (Commonwealth Fund).

    Let's look at them again however within the context of the American experience/situation:

    1. Only 2 countries spend more on public healthcare than the US - Iceland and Germany: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_hea_car_fun_pub_per_cap-care-funding-public-per-capita

    2. Commonwealth Fund ass-u-mes that quality of life and life expectancy are directly related despite the fact it doesn't account for other issues like homicide rates, much higher rates of obesity, higher vehicular fatalities and more extraordinary measures in premature births.

    3. Commonwealth fund rates healthcare systems in the subjective terms of "fairness" - not specific outcomes - which means that by definition any government run healthcare system regardless of performance ranks further. As another critique pointed out "The study’s authors also consider having high administrative costs and spending the largest share of GDP on health care worse than having the highest share of patients who wait four months or more for surgery."

    But I mean hey, who's counting because you don't really care about the details.

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    Jun 28, 2013 10:05 PM GMT
    "Companies Examine Ways To Cut Health Costs, Deal With Obamacare"

    http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Daily-Reports/2013/June/24/business-health-reform.aspx