As per evolution theory, its logical that Men and Women are attracted to each other cause they had to populate the world. But what can be logic behind Gay?

  • crazy_rajiv84

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    Jun 19, 2013 10:22 AM GMT
    Okey, I was just thinking about evolution of Mankind, and it was logical that Men and Women are attracted to each other cause they had to populate the world. I kinda believe that whtever happens in evolution happens for reason. I think there are various reasons of someone being gay, Probably world is now overpopulated so God thought lets make them gay, Probably there was lots of hatred in the world cause of Women and money, so god thought lets make them Gay, I know its stupid thought but just wondering what may be the possible reason other then a person falling deeply in love with other and Gay is truly and heart poundingly romantic, any thoughts?
  • Nayro

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    Jun 19, 2013 10:24 AM GMT
    to stop overpopulation is a theory. As 2 gay man or gay women can't have children the 'normal' way
  • TannerMasseur

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    Jun 19, 2013 10:31 AM GMT
    Daelin saidto stop overpopulation is a theory. As 2 gay man or gay women can't have children the 'normal' way


    Ditto icon_smile.gif

    Think there's research that's been done that shows that even in the animal kingdom there is same sex attraction: lions, primates.....
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    Jun 19, 2013 10:38 AM GMT
    who cares? let gays be gay!
  • maxferguson

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    Jun 19, 2013 11:01 AM GMT
    The logic behind how a gay gene came into existence to begin with? Or the logic behind why it still exists?

    Can't speak to the first one, but as for why it still exists, the gay uncle hypothesis explains it quite well. Consider your extended family - they have some of the same genes you do. If the goal is to ensure that your genes are passed on, but you're gay, your options for doing so are limited. In vitro was obviously not an option until recently. And a gay male impregnating a girl naturally? icon_eek.gif Hardly worth the risk of cooties, and I wouldn't trust anything that bleeds for a week and doesn't die. Realistically, it was probably more of a problem of trying to attract a female mate to mother a child with your genes; if you're gay, then there are more attractive sexual/romantic relationships for her to be in....

    There still is a way to pass on the genes - if you have siblings and they have kids (your niece/nephew), they have some of the same genes you do, so by sticking around and acting to enhance the probability of survival of those individuals, many of the genes you carry are carried forward, including the possibility of the gay gene being carried forward with no direct reproduction. This sounds really far fetched, but consider the necessity of the gay gene being passed forward in order for any gay population to exist today and the possibility that your niece/nephew carries it and will one day have a gay child.
  • crazy_rajiv84

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    Jun 19, 2013 11:55 AM GMT
    maxferguson saidThe logic behind how a gay gene came into existence to begin with? Or the logic behind why it still exists?

    Can't speak to the first one, but as for why it still exists, the gay uncle hypothesis explains it quite well. Consider your extended family - they have some of the same genes you do. If the goal is to ensure that your genes are passed on, but you're gay, your options for doing so are limited. In vitro was obviously not an option until recently. And a gay male impregnating a girl naturally? icon_eek.gif Hardly worth the risk of cooties, and I wouldn't trust anything that bleeds for a week and doesn't die. Realistically, it was probably more of a problem of trying to attract a female mate to mother a child with your genes; if you're gay, then there are more attractive sexual/romantic relationships for her to be in....

    There still is a way to pass on the genes - if you have siblings and they have kids (your niece/nephew), they have some of the same genes you do, so by sticking around and acting to enhance the probability of survival of those individuals, many of the genes you carry are carried forward, including the possibility of the gay gene being carried forward with no direct reproduction. This sounds really far fetched, but consider the necessity of the gay gene being passed forward in order for any gay population to exist today and the possibility that your niece/nephew carries it and will one day have a gay child.


    Hmm Interesting theory, I didn't know that, But any thoughts on first one, How did gay gene came into existence to start with, I am rather than how I am curious about why icon_smile.gif
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    Jun 19, 2013 11:55 AM GMT
    I don't see any merit to the overpopulation theory. What is the accepted figure today? .01% of men are not attracted to women at all? And I know so many gays with children.
    It has to be something else.
  • Rene_Aensland

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    Jun 19, 2013 11:59 AM GMT
    maxferguson said and I wouldn't trust anything that bleeds for a week and doesn't die.


    Marry me.....
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    Jun 19, 2013 12:02 PM GMT
    Not everything in nature is logical. Why is urine almost entirely water when we have to drink water to survive? Logic would dictate that urine should contain as little water as possible.
  • Rene_Aensland

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    Jun 19, 2013 12:05 PM GMT
    I've also thought about the same thing.
    A friend of mine that I met on Call of Duty got pretty pissy at me when he found that I was gay.

    I remember him saying, God put me on this Earth to have children, what did he put you here for?

    I told him to SUCK DIIIIIICK!
    He's still my friend, nice guy. =]
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    Jun 19, 2013 1:01 PM GMT
    Rene_Aensland saidI've also thought about the same thing.
    A friend of mine that I met on Call of Duty got pretty pissy at me when he found that I was gay.

    I remember him saying, God put me on this Earth to have children, what did he put you here for?

    I told him to SUCK DIIIIIICK!
    He's still my friend, nice guy. =]

    How horrible. That makes me so mad.
    You could have answered either...

    "You'll have to ask God because he made me gay"

    ...or ..

    "I'm here for the same reason as the people God made sterile or impotent...whatever that is."
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    Jun 19, 2013 1:17 PM GMT
    JohnSpotter said
    Rene_Aensland saidI've also thought about the same thing.
    A friend of mine that I met on Call of Duty got pretty pissy at me when he found that I was gay.

    I remember him saying, God put me on this Earth to have children, what did he put you here for?

    I told him to SUCK DIIIIIICK!
    He's still my friend, nice guy. =]

    How horrible. That makes me so mad.
    You could have answered either...

    "You'll have to ask God because he made me gay"

    ...or ..

    "I'm here for the same reason as the people God made sterile or impotent...whatever that is."


    Hell no, I wasn't going to go into detail with him.

    Buddy, you and I know Religion is a never-ending topic. It could have gone for hours!
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    Jun 19, 2013 3:12 PM GMT
    In evolutionary terms regarding the physical, variation is key in the development of tools for survival within the continuation of life because with each new variation derives by its coexistence multiple permutations, another chance to get it right, another avenue of life. Look anywhere in nature and you will find variation of form and function in abundance. If evolution is as efficient as it is prolific, then why would it bother to delete already occurring variations which do not harm the survival of life?

    In evolutionary terms regarding psychological and sociological aspects of survival of the species, why would there develop any less variations of love which is binding than might have developed the forms of flowers or leaves. How strong is the requirement of a species to bond for society building which furthers the survival of a species? The sense of survival is so strong that it reaches even into death. Why else would we grieve so deeply? Is it not our bonding with each other that manifests throughout the multitude of our lives and within the variety of our loves.
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    Jun 19, 2013 3:25 PM GMT
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    Jun 19, 2013 3:42 PM GMT
    Leading theories state that sexually antagonistic epi-genes that protect the fetus from too much testosterone are what trigger homosexuality in opposite-sex offspring. Those epi-genes masculinize or feminize certain structures in the brain like sexual preference, emotions, aggression, etc.

    The reason it works from an evolutionary perspective is because it always increases the fitness of the parents, while rarely reducing the fitness of the offspring and can easily escape erasure.
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    Jun 19, 2013 3:45 PM GMT
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    Jun 19, 2013 5:12 PM GMT
    I think overpopulation makes sense. Even for the gay couples that have children, a lot of them adopt so that's a plus giving kids a good home too.
  • AMoonHawk

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    Jun 19, 2013 5:57 PM GMT
    Because that's the way God planned it.
  • Hothouse

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    Jun 19, 2013 6:17 PM GMT
    Without the straights, we wouldn't be here.
    Without us, they wouldn't look good.
  • crazy_rajiv84

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    Jun 19, 2013 7:58 PM GMT
    Hothouse saidWithout the straights, we wouldn't be here.
    Without us, they wouldn't look good.


    Well makes sense, without them we wouldn't be here, but we are probably here not to make them look good but to teach them some lessons like Love and lust is above all ... icon_smile.gif
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    Jun 19, 2013 8:01 PM GMT
    God gave us gays to provide the world sources of fabulous fashion, modern design, and crafty female mechanics.
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    Jun 19, 2013 8:07 PM GMT
    why can't it be that people are gay because that's the way they are just like how being a male, having certain skin color and etc is. nobody in the world ASKED to be born, asked to be born to the mother or the father that donated their egg and sperm for their creation, to have the genes that they have and etc. it's not anybody's choice. who said that people's sole purpose is to reproduce? there's plenty of straight people outthere that CAN'T have kids because their sexual organs aren't functioning properly. does that mean that them being unable to have kids of telling the world that that one person wouldn't contribute to the overpopulation of the world. we just are NOT in control and just have to learn to deal with that.

    a gay person can have a kid whether they have unprotected sex with the opposite sex, has a test tube baby and etc. there's ways of having it happen. yeah, a gay couple can't conceive children naturally BUT so what? it shouldn't be looked at as an evolutionary thing of spreading genes. there's some things in human genes such as psychopathy or diseases that are harmful to the world that people have BUT that doesn't keep people from reproducing despite the fact that someone might reproduce the next ted bundy or someone with sickle cell.
  • Webster666

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    Jun 19, 2013 11:19 PM GMT
    All animals have sex for procreation.
    Humans are the only animals (as far a I know) who have sex for pleasure, too.
    And, that would explain why gay humans are sexually attracted to each other.
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    Jun 19, 2013 11:36 PM GMT
    Genetic mutation.


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    Jun 19, 2013 11:40 PM GMT
    Webster666 said
    Humans are the only animals (as far a I know) who have sex for pleasure, too.


    Dolphins, as well.