In ur flaws, perfection :) .....

  • TannerMasseur

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    Jun 20, 2013 5:28 AM GMT
    A very Buddhist notion, that ur flaws---physical, inner, mental---are what make u perfect. The broken vessel that's been repieced back together, the time, care & effort to salvage & reattach every piece as best can. The beauty of scars, the flawed beauty. Do u believe this true? U can come close to perfect & there's beauty in the trying, but perfection is elusive, an illusion, delusion. What are ur thoughts on this?.....
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    Jun 20, 2013 5:33 AM GMT
    well, yes and no, depending on what it is. sometimes a flaw can make the difference between life and death. pugs for example have genetic defects that some people find cute BUT those defects often affect the health of pugs negatively. icon_sad.gif
  • AMoonHawk

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    Jun 20, 2013 5:44 AM GMT
    Nothing's perfect ... That's why a flawless diamond cost so much ... But even a flawless diamond is not perfect ... If you look at your entire life as a whole, you will see that it's not perfect, but if you look close enough at one single moment in time, you will find perfection.
  • TannerMasseur

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    Jun 20, 2013 5:48 AM GMT
    AMoonHawk saidNothing's perfect ... That's why a flawless diamond cost so much ... But even a flawless diamond is not perfect ... If you look at your entire life as a whole, you will see that it's not perfect, but if you look close enough at one single moment in time, you will find perfection.


    Was there ever a perfect moment? Hmmm? I'm still looking.....
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    Jun 20, 2013 5:52 AM GMT
    spgem said
    AMoonHawk saidNothing's perfect ... That's why a flawless diamond cost so much ... But even a flawless diamond is not perfect ... If you look at your entire life as a whole, you will see that it's not perfect, but if you look close enough at one single moment in time, you will find perfection.


    Was there ever a perfect moment? Hmmm? I'm still looking.....


    Guess when ur a kid, before u became self-conscious & everything was just play, seems everything seemed perfect then icon_smile.gif .....
  • AMoonHawk

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    Jun 20, 2013 5:59 AM GMT
    spgem said
    AMoonHawk saidNothing's perfect ... That's why a flawless diamond cost so much ... But even a flawless diamond is not perfect ... If you look at your entire life as a whole, you will see that it's not perfect, but if you look close enough at one single moment in time, you will find perfection.


    Was there ever a perfect moment? Hmmm? I'm still looking.....

    Sit quietly ... Close your eyes ... Clear your mind of all trouble or thoughts ... Is there no perfect moment?
  • TannerMasseur

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    Jun 20, 2013 6:03 AM GMT
    When something is considered a masterpiece in art, it's perfect---in it's singularity, it's pureness, the effort taken to be what it is, it's presence, all come together.
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    Jun 20, 2013 6:05 AM GMT
    AMoonHawk said
    spgem said
    AMoonHawk saidNothing's perfect ... That's why a flawless diamond cost so much ... But even a flawless diamond is not perfect ... If you look at your entire life as a whole, you will see that it's not perfect, but if you look close enough at one single moment in time, you will find perfection.


    Was there ever a perfect moment? Hmmm? I'm still looking.....

    Sit quietly ... Close your eyes ... Clear your mind of all trouble or thoughts ... Is there no perfect moment?


    Gosh I feel like I'm in the couch couch where u introspect & find what's within icon_smile.gif .....
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    Jun 20, 2013 6:07 AM GMT
    You should accept that you have flaws but should strive to work on them.
  • TannerMasseur

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    Jun 20, 2013 6:09 AM GMT
    U peel the layers to find what's been buried.....
  • TannerMasseur

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    Jun 20, 2013 6:11 AM GMT
    Whatevz saidYou should accept that you have flaws but should strive to work on them.


    Always the trying, the striving---never-ending.....
  • TannerMasseur

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    Jun 20, 2013 6:22 AM GMT
    A concerto, flawlessly played in syncopation from beginning to end. A song sung with every nuance & trill of the voice just perfectly sung at the right time, the right pitch, tone, vibrato, all the voice's devices used to it's best ability, never to be sung in exactly the same way again. Every new try a slight variation, perfect in it's own way.....
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    Jun 20, 2013 6:28 AM GMT
    Flaws? Me? HA!

    No, seriously. I'm not exactly how I feel about this.
  • TannerMasseur

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    Jun 20, 2013 6:30 AM GMT
    The physiognomy of an aesthetic face: the twitch of the curve of the mouth, the ever-changing hues of the coveted's iris, the camel length lashes, the glowing skin, the fine follicles of hair that abound throughout the pores, the sparkle in the eyes, the spark, the smile, bone structure, the slope of the brow---all come together to form what u love to behold & adore.....
  • TannerMasseur

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    Jun 20, 2013 6:42 AM GMT
    spgem saidThe physiognomy of an aesthetic face: the twitch of the curve of the mouth, the ever-changing hues of the coveted's iris, the camel length lashes, the glowing skin, the fine follicles of hair that abound throughout the pores, the sparkle in the eyes, the spark, the smile, bone structure, the slope of the brow---all come together to form what u love to behold & adore.....


    Then what if it's partially burned, defaced, marred & scarred? What then? How do u feel then? How do u love the same then? Is it still the same? Has anything really changed? Pass the physicality into real unconditional flawless love.....
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    Jun 20, 2013 6:47 AM GMT
    spgem said
    spgem saidThe physiognomy of an aesthetic face: the twitch of the curve of the mouth, the ever-changing hues of the coveted's iris, the camel length lashes, the glowing skin, the fine follicles of hair that abound throughout the pores, the sparkle in the eyes, the spark, the smile, bone structure, the slope of the brow---all come together to form what u love to behold & adore.....


    Then what if it's partially burned, defaced, marred & scarred? What then? How do u feel then? How do u love the same then? Is it still the same? Has anything really changed? Pass the physicality into real unconditional flawless love.....


    How far can u go? What if there's no more lips to kiss or eyelids that open or a detectable nose, a jaw partially blown away, so maimed & in need of a face transplant? What then?.....How much can u cope, endure, remain?.....
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    Jun 20, 2013 11:50 AM GMT
    Reminds me of a story about a cracked water pot from Indian lore that has a similar theme. Have to see if I can find a printed version.
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    Jun 20, 2013 12:15 PM GMT
    I used to think this was 100% true, but now I see things differently. I wouldn't say that that statement is wrong, but I don't think it's hitting the nail on the head. It is our finitude, not our imperfection, that makes each of us truly unique and can make us attractive in certain other men's eyes. We can't be everything - each of us cannot have the strongest mind (e.g. Euler), most courageous spirit (Thrasybulus), or best sculpted physique (Michael Phelps). Nor can each of us have closest approximated truth (Aquinas), be a near-perfect exemplar of the good (Robert E. Lee), or most closely attain the beautiful (Raphael, Michelangelo, van der Weyden). But, there is beautiful uniqueness, which you are calling perfection, in how each of us relates to and exhibits differing levels of the above categories. Thus, it isn't our imperfection that directly causes our beautiful uniqueness; rather, it is the good we make of human nature's intrinsic finitude.

    There are other elements that contribute to our "beautiful uniqueness" - culture and personality being two, but that's not pertinent to the subject at hand.
  • Destinharbor

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    Jun 20, 2013 3:52 PM GMT
    The theory that the flaw defines the perfect, that the flaw creates a unique new perfect, is what creates energy. I learned that in my dabble with architecture. Perfect symmetry is monumental but static. Variations on a theme is much more dynamic. Look at Jefferson's lawn at UVA. The slight differences between each house creates a perfect harmony while contributing to the whole.
  • HottJoe

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    Jun 20, 2013 3:54 PM GMT
    Pretty blonds are a dime a dozen. It's all about personality... and bleach.
  • iHavok

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    Jun 20, 2013 3:56 PM GMT
    More I learn about Buddhist beliefs, more I like them folk!

    Ive never been happier than since I embraced my personal flaws... My love of comic books, my dorky urge to read everything ever printed, my large ears... And Ive noticed a change in how others interact with me!
    Might just be I'm happier and people like that... who knows
  • TannerMasseur

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    Jun 20, 2013 4:33 PM GMT
    mileshelvetica saidReminds me of a story about a cracked water pot from Indian lore that has a similar theme. Have to see if I can find a printed version.


    Yes it's a universal theme icon_smile.gif One of my favorite artist El Anatsui uses it as a major theme it his work from when he first started making art icon_smile.gif He (with a crew) makes these beautiful multi-colored giant chain mailed sheet sculptures that can be shaped & presented differently everytime, made from wine bottle cork wrappings & other detritus. Has a Gees Bend quilt randomness to the way they're made icon_smile.gif .....
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    Jun 20, 2013 4:37 PM GMT
    KJSharp saidI used to think this was 100% true, but now I see things differently. I wouldn't say that that statement is wrong, but I don't think it's hitting the nail on the head. It is our finitude, not our imperfection, that makes each of us truly unique and can make us attractive in certain other men's eyes. We can't be everything - each of us cannot have the strongest mind (e.g. Euler), most courageous spirit (Thrasybulus), or best sculpted physique (Michael Phelps). Nor can each of us have closest approximated truth (Aquinas), be a near-perfect exemplar of the good (Robert E. Lee), or most closely attain the beautiful (Raphael, Michelangelo, van der Weyden). But, there is beautiful uniqueness, which you are calling perfection, in how each of us relates to and exhibits differing levels of the above categories. Thus, it isn't our imperfection that directly causes our beautiful uniqueness; rather, it is the good we make of human nature's intrinsic finitude.

    There are other elements that contribute to our "beautiful uniqueness" - culture and personality being two, but that's not pertinent to the subject at hand.


    Thx for sharing KJ icon_smile.gif Duly footnoted icon_smile.gif Ur so well-read icon_smile.gif .....
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    Jun 20, 2013 4:41 PM GMT
    Tell that to my crooked nose, left side of my rib cage and TMD jaw. THEY AIN'T BUYING IT!!

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    Jun 20, 2013 4:41 PM GMT
    iHavok saidMore I learn about Buddhist beliefs, more I like them folk!

    Ive never been happier than since I embraced my personal flaws... My love of comic books, my dorky urge to read everything ever printed, my large ears... And Ive noticed a change in how others interact with me!
    Might just be I'm happier and people like that... who knows


    The ones that see that if ur comfortable & happy with urself, that if ur self-effacing & free spirited, they feel ur good vibes & want to be friends icon_smile.gif