Allergic to sugar , dairy , and gluten

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    Jun 22, 2013 4:49 PM GMT
    Just was informed i have a huge food allergy that means no dairy, wheat, or any cheat meals that have sugar. Well looks like it sucks from here on out. On the other hand though this could be an opportunity to get in the best shape of my life. Any of you guys have this issue and how do you deal with it. Can you recommend any proteins etc that dont have sugar
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    Jun 22, 2013 4:59 PM GMT
    Is it all sugars or are natural sugars still allowed?
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    Jun 22, 2013 5:01 PM GMT
    dont know yet were trying to pin point it
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    Jun 22, 2013 5:50 PM GMT
    How can you be allergic to sugar? Do you have diabetes?
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    Jun 22, 2013 6:00 PM GMT
    Are you going to a real doctor? One who specializes in allergies?
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    Jun 22, 2013 6:05 PM GMT

    I'm allergic to refined sugars and have a low tolerance to dairy and gluten. Dairy is easy to avoid....just say no. Gluten is a challenge...but thankfully the availability of rice, corn and soybean based flour has gotten better over the past few years. Things like condiments, OTC meds and sauces are now labeled as Gluten or Gluten free

    The sugar avoidance is the one that's a bitch. Not just in obvious stuff like soda...it is used in tons of other stuff. When going out to eat your options are really limited. I travel allot and live in hotels half the month and it is not fun. Your allergist or D.O. who diagnosed you should have a comprehensive 'starter kit'.

    Foodle aka MyFood and Fooducate are useful apps to help you find nutrition content.

    Best to you man.
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    Jun 22, 2013 7:32 PM GMT
    Unintended saidI have a moderate casein allergy and a slightly worse gluten allergy, although neither is serious enough to be debilitating. Interestingly, I only learned of the gluten allergy since the emergence of microbrew beers everywhere. icon_sad.gif

    However, as the OP said, the side benefit is a very healty diet - lots of fruits and vegetables, rice instead of pasta and so on...


    But if he's allergic to natural sugar then he can't really eat any fruit though.
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    Jun 22, 2013 8:07 PM GMT
    Hi Mike,
    I'm allergic to those things to. Most table sugar comes in the form of beet sugar (not sugar cane, as is commonly assumed), so there is a chance you have a sensitivity to the beet family. This is not an unusual food allergy. Beet family includes beet sugar, beets, spinach and chard.

    A lot of processed foods have high fructose corn syrup, which is definitively shown to harden arteries even in small amounts, and corn is also a common sensitivity to those with food issues.

    The question is, can you have other kinds of natural sugar like fructose (from fruit) and glucose (from honey). There is no such thing as a glucose allergy, as far as I know. Glucose is the most easily absorbed food, period. It requires no digestion or breakdown, however it quickly spikes internal glucose levels. Nevertheless, you can probably eat fruit and processed foods containing fructose unless your doctor says otherwise. There are more than two dozen forms of sugar (http://www.sugar.org/sugar-basics/the-other-26-sweeteners.html) and I find that I have trouble with just about all of them.

    As for proteins, good news, high protein foods have little or no sugars so that's pretty safe -- unless of course sugar is mixed in (bacon, cheesecake).

    You might consider a Paleo diet, which eliminates all grain, beans, dairy, and sweets, and is great for building muscle and losing fat. It is a diet that centres on dark green veggies and flesh. The book that seems to be all the rage is Paleo Solution by Robb Wolf. IMHO it is not well written and they guy is annoying, but it gave me the info I needed to get started.

    A raw raw foods diet also eliminates the "bad" foods for you. But again, you would need to get educated to do it. (See Raw Power by Stephen Arlin)

    Or just eat as you did and modify to replace dairy with eggs, beans, nuts, meat. Replace wheat with gluten-free breads. Only eat sweets that have safe sugars, or just give up on sweets. Lindt 85% dark chocolate is nearly sugar free and seems to satisfy my sweet urge.

    Good luck
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    Jun 22, 2013 9:19 PM GMT
    I can't eat gluten or dairy at all. The sugar bit will be hardest for sure.

    Meat is sugar free lol how is that for a protein?

    Good luck!
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    Jun 22, 2013 10:36 PM GMT
    I recommend visiting with a professional in nutrition, a registered dietitian. Whoever tested you for this that didn't inform you to visit one just took your money and fucked with your mind.
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    Jun 23, 2013 12:19 AM GMT
    bleh we shouldn't be eating that shit anyways.

    it feeds the parasites in the gut !!.. true story lol
    why do you think people are so bloated, guts poking out, fat and also leaky gut syndrome (google it)
    those foods thrash the gi tract!!!

    sugar is a class A drug. it's not healthy and cancer thrives off sugar. This guy won a noble peace prize for proving it.

    http://michael2108.wordpress.com/2010/04/03/nobel-peace-prize-winner-dr-otto-heinrich-warburg-the-cause-of-cancer/

    gluten has a protein in it that doesn't break down in our guts ..it's called gliadin and it raises hell on the body..
    please see this book for more info ..

    http://www.amazon.com/Dangerous-Grains-Gluten-Cereal-Hazardous/dp/1583331298

    Dairy would be healthy if it wasn't pasteurized but it is so it can have a longer shelf life... basically destroying the nutrients from it and one is consuming something that will bloat you and cause all kinds of disease, allergies even scoliosis.


    and too much fructose is not all that great for you either just cause it's natural. Same goes for sugar substitutes...
    your body still perceives it as sugar and you still get the same hormonal response, spike in blood sugar and insulin is still released.

    proteins that don't have sugar..like every single animal sold in the whole foods meat dept lol

  • omgazn

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    Jun 23, 2013 12:29 AM GMT
    Wow that sucks to all the guys who can't have sugar. I would practically die from withdraw from not eating ice cream icon_eek.gif
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    Jun 23, 2013 12:31 AM GMT
    Just for laughing sake, it would be cool if each person posted their definition of "sugar" with their post, if you already posted. No one is allergic to sugar. Sorry to spoil that.
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    Jun 23, 2013 12:37 AM GMT
    may not be allergic but it's still shit to eat icon_smile.gif
  • venusrider

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    Jun 23, 2013 12:50 AM GMT
    Sparks saidIs it all sugars or are natural sugars still allowed?


    I believe our illustrious FDA has decided real sugar is in fact a "toxin". Only faux sugar will be allowed soon.
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    Jun 23, 2013 2:34 AM GMT
    venusrider saidI believe our illustrious FDA has decided real sugar is in fact a "toxin". Only faux sugar will be allowed soon.

    Sucrose, aka table sugar, what's made from sugar cane, has a high glycemic index and that causes problems. Fructose has a low glycemic index and is better for us than sucrose.
    See the Health section in the following:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-fructose_corn_syrup

    The wikipedia pages on sucrose and fructose might also be informative.
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    Jun 23, 2013 3:23 AM GMT
    It sucks to be told you can't eat your favorite foods. You'll struggle with it for a few weeks. But I think you will find that you can get along without dairy pretty easily, you won't miss sweeteners that much after a while, and trying to find good-tasting versions of your gluten-heavy menu items just isn't worth the effort.

    In other words, you'll survive. You'll find foods you like just as much as the ones you gave up. And -- as others have suggested -- lots of experts are coming around to the view that most people shouldn't be eating those things anyway. You can console yourself with the knowledge that someday, we'll all be on your diet.
  • mybud

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    Jun 23, 2013 3:44 AM GMT
    Try an air and ice cube diet...
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    Jun 23, 2013 3:49 AM GMT
    bluey2223 saidI recommend visiting with a professional in nutrition, a registered dietitian. Whoever tested you for this that didn't inform you to visit one just took your money and fucked with your mind.



    yes you can be allergic to sugar its called lactase in milk and there is sucrose in fruit so yes you can which is why there is almond milk etc . Sugar isnt just in cookie and candy form. You dont know how bad it is until you actually suffer from it case closed
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    Jun 23, 2013 4:56 AM GMT
    mike34 said
    bluey2223 saidI recommend visiting with a professional in nutrition, a registered dietitian. Whoever tested you for this that didn't inform you to visit one just took your money and fucked with your mind.



    yes you can be allergic to sugar its called lactase in milk and there is sucrose in fruit so yes you can which is why there is almond milk etc . Sugar isnt just in cookie and candy form. You dont know how bad it is until you actually suffer from it case closed


    First: Facepalm.
    Second: Lactase is an enzyme (a protein) that breaks down lactose, the sugar found in dairy milk. There are many different types of sugars, hence the original statement. Sugar is a generic term to refer to smaller chains of carbohydrate (mono- and di-saccharides).

    I'm not quite sure why you think this is why almond milk exists (that is what I understand from what you wrote). Almond milk is nothing but a sweetened fatty beverage with some almond fat in it and fortified with calcium, because that's not naturally at the levels found in real milk. If you were to get that amount of calcium from real almonds, you would get fat first because they're super high in calories if using them as a calcium source (unless you are a vegetarian athlete and need those calories). There also is about 8 times more protein in real milk than in almond milk. Why people drink almond milk? Beats me other than perhaps a subjective preference in taste or if they are lactose intolerant, which does not mean they can't have ANY lactose, it just means they can't have it in large quantities. Almond milk is not a good source of protein.

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    Jun 23, 2013 1:10 PM GMT
    Unintended saidIntolerance is probably at better word than allergy.


    this.

    intolerance and allergy are two completely different conditions. allergy basically means you can die almost immediately after eating a tiny piece of bread, whereas intolerance happens when your body doesn't process well a specific type of food, but it doesn't imply a very strong reaction on your body. it doesn't mean you can never ever have that food again. but you have to be moderate and try to avoid it.

    unless what you got is celiac disease. that'd be very similar to being allergic to gluten

    anyway as someone mentioned already, you shouldn't eat those things anyway. even if you're not intolerant. wheat and sugar are like poison for the body.

    anyway if your body developed an intolerance is probably bc you were eating a lot of that and it just wouldn't take it anymore.

    get lots of salad, veggies and fruits.
    & while you're at it. why don't you just try going vegan?

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    Jun 23, 2013 1:19 PM GMT
    mike34 saidJust was informed i have a huge food allergy that means no dairy, wheat, or any cheat meals that have sugar. Well looks like it sucks from here on out. On the other hand though this could be an opportunity to get in the best shape of my life. Any of you guys have this issue and how do you deal with it. Can you recommend any proteins etc that dont have sugar


    Allergic to sugar? Malarkey. Glucose (sugar) is what keeps you alive.

    No proteins have no sugar. Period. They are proteins. Sugars / starches / carbs (the first two mentioned) / alcohol / MCTs / fats are bonded carbon changes. Proteins are grouping of amino acids.

    Study the most basic of chemistry.

    Surely, you're not that illiterate?

    Have some one tutor you on the very basics of this.

    This is junior high chemistry.

    Whomever you are dealing with is an idiot, or they are doing one really poor job of explaining it.

    You need to research this, further, yourself.
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    Jun 23, 2013 1:26 PM GMT
    When I made a request for an allergy test from my doctor I was told that they are not very reliable or concrete. That they are highly subjective in the way they test. Then I was told the best way to know what you are allergic to is by life-lesson, cause and affect through things you consume, have had skin contact with, and things you inhale. My doctor then said if something effects you negatively and you think you are allergic to something then stop eating it, inhaling or touching it. Was this wise advice? Because I was wondering if my doctor was just brushing off my concern and was ignorant to actual allergy testing.
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    Jun 23, 2013 2:01 PM GMT
    A lot of this allergy business that's happening to just about everyone these days is due to... GMO's. Allergies in children are up 400% since the mid 90's when baby formula manufactures started using them in their products. Best way to save your health in this country is to get the hell off of processed foods.
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    Jun 23, 2013 2:27 PM GMT
    Think OP needs to define "allergy" and "sugar".....

    There may be some sugars that the body reacts to...need to find out exactly what the triggers are and the magnitude of the reaction...