Pastor Jeffress in Dallas, TX (Today, 2013) and The Weekly Standard (2004) says Gay Marriage Hurt Heterosexual Marriage in Scandinavian Countries

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    Jun 27, 2013 2:51 AM GMT
    There were less heterosexual marriages in Scandinavian countries after homosexual marriage was introduced.

  • waccamatt

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    Jun 27, 2013 4:55 AM GMT
    I'm sure he has no credible data to back that up and common sense says that's ridiculous.
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    Jun 27, 2013 11:44 AM GMT
    waccamatt saidI'm sure he has no credible data to back that up and common sense says that's ridiculous.


    Google

    Marriage rates in Scandinavian countries after gay marriage


    Here's one of the articles that came up.

    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2004/05/prenuptial_jitters.html


    Over the next 5 days, I'll get through at least two of the results. Probably will read the article above, tonight, after work.
  • waynerd

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    Jun 27, 2013 12:39 PM GMT
    The article actually states and argues the opposite.
  • DanOmatic

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    Jun 27, 2013 1:06 PM GMT
    Scandinavian countries (and other northern European countries in general) saw declines in marriage rates LONG before gay marriage even came under discussion there.

    Next, we'll hear from Jeffress and other hysterical christians that gay marriage ushered in atheism in those countries as well. In most northern European countries, church attendance (and belief in god) has been marginal for the last three decades, long before gay marriage was legalized.
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    Jun 27, 2013 2:18 PM GMT
    lol, he might have looked closer to home, like Canada.

    "In 1961, 92% of Canadian families were married couples, however by 2011, this proportion had declined to 67%; mostly a result of the growth of common-law couples.

    Between 1981 and 2011 the number of married couples increased by 20% however the number of common-law couples more than quadrupled (+345%). Today, first unions are more likely to be cohabitations than marriages, likely due to greater social acceptance of this living arrangement."

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    Jun 28, 2013 2:54 AM GMT
    meninlove said lol, he might have looked closer to home, like Canada.

    "In 1961, 92% of Canadian families were married couples, however by 2011, this proportion had declined to 67%; mostly a result of the growth of common-law couples.

    Between 1981 and 2011 the number of married couples increased by 20% however the number of common-law couples more than quadrupled (+345%). Today, first unions are more likely to be cohabitations than marriages, likely due to greater social acceptance of this living arrangement."



    I think that's his concern: the unwinding of marriage on many fronts.
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    Jun 28, 2013 3:06 AM GMT
    Okay, here:

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/660zypwj.asp?page=3

    The Feb. 2, 2004 article starts:

    MARRIAGE IS SLOWLY DYING IN SCANDINAVIA. A majority of children in Sweden and Norway are born out of wedlock. Sixty percent of first-born children in Denmark have unmarried parents. Not coincidentally, these countries have had something close to full gay marriage for a decade or more. Same-sex marriage has locked in and reinforced an existing Scandinavian trend toward the separation of marriage and parenthood. The Nordic family pattern--including gay marriage--is spreading across Europe. And by looking closely at it we can answer the key empirical question underlying the gay marriage debate. Will same-sex marriage undermine the institution of marriage? It already has.

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    Jun 28, 2013 3:08 AM GMT
    waccamatt saidI'm sure he has no credible data to back that up and common sense says that's ridiculous.


    He must have read The Weekly Standard article.
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    Jun 28, 2013 2:41 PM GMT
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    meninlove said lol, he might have looked closer to home, like Canada.

    "In 1961, 92% of Canadian families were married couples, however by 2011, this proportion had declined to 67%; mostly a result of the growth of common-law couples.

    Between 1981 and 2011 the number of married couples increased by 20% however the number of common-law couples more than quadrupled (+345%). Today, first unions are more likely to be cohabitations than marriages, likely due to greater social acceptance of this living arrangement."



    I think that's his concern: the unwinding of marriage on many fronts.


    Gay people marrying is not one of the fronts. icon_rolleyes.gif

    He might also want to stay in Vegas chapels for awhile and see what a good chunk of straight people have done with marriage, making it as important as lunch at McDonald's.

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    Jun 28, 2013 3:07 PM GMT
    meninlove saidI think that's his concern: the unwinding of marriage on many fronts.


    Gay people marrying is not one of the fronts. icon_rolleyes.gif

    He might also want to stay in Vegas chapels for awhile and see what a good chunk of straight people have done with marriage, making it as important as lunch at McDonald's.

    Thanks Doug, this point is often overlooked when religious entities discuss how same sex marriage will affected opposite sex marriages. They never seem to discuss the sham that str8 couples make of marriage, like the Vegas drive-thru with Elvis performing the ceremony at 3am after 25 cocktails or the 36 hr marriage by celebrities, or the 5th, 6th, 7th spouse of str8 people.

    It's a pity they don't get their own house in order before they begin throwing stone from their glass temples!
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    Jun 28, 2013 3:20 PM GMT
    Fewer people marrying?
    How is that a bad thing?

    Miss Jeffries is a fucking monster.