8 things you probably didn't know about Apple's iOS 7

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    Jun 29, 2013 2:50 PM GMT
    It's coming this Fall. When I'll update my current devices, get a new iPhone, and also an iPad to replace the one that got stolen. By then I expect improvements in both devices, why I didn't immediately replace my lost iPad, getting along with my previous Gen 3 model.

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    Jun 29, 2013 4:07 PM GMT
    I think apple products have mediocre quality and great marketing.
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    Jun 29, 2013 4:15 PM GMT
    ricky1987 saidI think apple products have mediocre quality and great marketing.

    You think incorrectly. As an Apple products user for 30 years (longer than you've been alive), as well as using the competition, I've seen how superior Apple is. And sources like Consumer Reports consistently rate their products at the top, and near top (the sporadic antenna glitch on one iPhone model being an exception).

    And Apple's customer service is consistently rated the best in the business. I never wait more than 5 minutes to talk with someone about a question I have, and they actually speak US English, are very friendly, and have always given me the solution I needed the first time. That can be as important as the product itself.
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    Jun 29, 2013 8:52 PM GMT
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    ricky1987 saidI think apple products have mediocre quality and great marketing.

    You think incorrectly. As an Apple products user for 30 years (longer than you've been alive), as well as using the competition, I've seen how superior Apple is. And sources like Consumer Reports consistently rate their products at the top, and near top (the sporadic antenna glitch on one iPhone model being an exception).

    And Apple's customer service is consistently rated the best in the business. I never wait more than 5 minutes to talk with someone about a question I have, and they actually speak US English, are very friendly, and have always given me the solution I needed the first time. That can be as important as the product itself.


    As some who has used both Apple and Samsung. I feel the quality is much better with Samsung. Also, they have far more free apps in Samsung than they have it in Apple.
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    Jun 29, 2013 10:35 PM GMT
    I love my new iPhone 5 and iPad mini! The ONLY reason I went with Apple is because that's the ONLY platform that will run ForeFlight (aviation GPS app with all the charts and other goodies required for flight - and it's FAA approved).

    If it weren't for that, I woulda stuck with Android stuff.

    I'll be interested in seeing how much faster it runs on iOS 7. Right now it runs pretty damn fast.
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    Jun 29, 2013 11:22 PM GMT
    ricky1987 said
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    ricky1987 saidI think apple products have mediocre quality and great marketing.

    You think incorrectly. As an Apple products user for 30 years (longer than you've been alive), as well as using the competition, I've seen how superior Apple is. And sources like Consumer Reports consistently rate their products at the top, and near top (the sporadic antenna glitch on one iPhone model being an exception).

    And Apple's customer service is consistently rated the best in the business. I never wait more than 5 minutes to talk with someone about a question I have, and they actually speak US English, are very friendly, and have always given me the solution I needed the first time. That can be as important as the product itself.


    As some who has used both Apple and Samsung. I feel the quality is much better with Samsung. Also, they have far more free apps in Samsung than they have it in Apple.


    Ricky, while I will grant you that the GSM iPhone4 sold by AT&T and 3GS were crap thanks to Infineon.

    I actually don't believe you've ever owned an Apple product.

    No one cares about free apps because the paid ones are less expensive than a happy meal for those not bent on stealing as much software as possible.

    Oh, you're running Android. Well, http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/06/26/android_malware_bloom_security_updates/

    Have fun.
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    Jun 29, 2013 11:31 PM GMT
    RobertF64 said
    ricky1987 said
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    ricky1987 saidI think apple products have mediocre quality and great marketing.

    You think incorrectly. As an Apple products user for 30 years (longer than you've been alive), as well as using the competition, I've seen how superior Apple is. And sources like Consumer Reports consistently rate their products at the top, and near top (the sporadic antenna glitch on one iPhone model being an exception).

    And Apple's customer service is consistently rated the best in the business. I never wait more than 5 minutes to talk with someone about a question I have, and they actually speak US English, are very friendly, and have always given me the solution I needed the first time. That can be as important as the product itself.


    As some who has used both Apple and Samsung. I feel the quality is much better with Samsung. Also, they have far more free apps in Samsung than they have it in Apple.


    Ricky, while I will grant you that the GSM iPhone4 sold by AT&T and 3GS were crap thanks to Infineon.

    I actually don't believe you've ever owned an Apple product.

    No one cares about free apps because the paid ones are less expensive than a happy meal for those not bent on stealing as much software as possible.

    Oh, you're running Android. Well, http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/06/26/android_malware_bloom_security_updates/

    Have fun.


    I have an ipad
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    Jun 30, 2013 3:36 AM GMT
    My computer guy repairs PC's and Macs. He told me if everyone had a Mac he'd have to get a second job.
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    Jun 30, 2013 3:44 AM GMT
    Livephoto filters

    Oh gawd. It would be a real dick move if Apple kicked out all the photo filter apps due to "existing functionality". I know Instagram and Hipstamatic would be pretty safe. But all the others ones from independent developers should be worried.
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    Jun 30, 2013 3:55 AM GMT
    Broseph saidThe browser on my iPad 1 crashes hilariously often. Safari and Chrome both. I think it might be due to the 256mb memory. It seems to happen super frequently on some sites (huffingtonpost.com). Maybe it's all of the media they cram onto the front page, but it still shouldn't just crash. Just don't load the images or something. The iPad otherwise works fine.

    We had Macs at the college I went to, and they also seemed to crash a lot (the graphics applications maybe). Perhaps the other students were messing them up, but I just haven't had much luck with Apple and stability, which I thought was one of their things.

    Currently, I need a new cell phone. I'll have to figure out if the iPhone is the right move for me. The Samsung phones look nice too.



    That's just bizarre. I NEVER turn my Mac off and it never ever ever crashes.
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    Jun 30, 2013 4:10 AM GMT
    Time to get rid of the ipad 1. I don't think the processor can handle current apps and web pages.
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    Jun 30, 2013 5:31 AM GMT
    YES gents keep buying the shit like crack. I have Apple stock. Bought into it at 87.00 a share!! AAPL symbol. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jun 30, 2013 12:05 PM GMT
    MikemikeMike saidYES gents keep buying the shit like crack. I have Apple stock. Bought into it at 87.00 a share!! AAPL symbol. icon_biggrin.gif

    Those of us who bought APPL at its lowest and continued as it creeped up to where you finally got on board do not look as Apple products as crap but as creative tools for smart, accomplished people who were tired of crappy computers that could not perform.
    If you view that as crack for morons, I seriously doubt you ever owned Apple stock. Dumb guys love to bad mouth successful companies, all the while holding MSFT for yeas, hoping it will bounce back someday.
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    Jun 30, 2013 12:06 PM GMT
    Scruffypup saidMy computer guy repairs PC's and Macs. He told me if everyone had a Mac he'd have to get a second job.
    That's probably why Mac stuff is so expensive. They gotta make their money somehow, and it sure ain't from repairs. These things are stable as fuck. My next desktop computer and laptop will be Macs.
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    Jun 30, 2013 12:15 PM GMT
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    Jun 30, 2013 1:19 PM GMT
    Scruffypup saidMy computer guy repairs PC's and Macs. He told me if everyone had a Mac he'd have to get a second job.

    Good point. All of my friends who've experienced computer failures were using PCs, not Macs. None of my own Macs has ever failed in 30 years, and I kept some as long as 10 years, passing them to my kids as second computers when we bought newer ones. I know anything can fail, including Macs, but the Angel of Death has never visited any of my Apple products. Not a single thing has ever failed in all those years (except keyboards doused with coffee)

    Whereas my late partner's 2-year-old PC was failing when I met him, so I bought him an iMac. It outlived him, and is still useable, just in storage now. My current partner likewise had a malfunctioning PC after having it only 2 years, so I got him a MacBook Pro, but he insisted on also running Windows on it to match his office work computer.

    When he left that job I nudged him to try the Mac OS, his Windows too glitch prone, I was spending more time at his computer correcting problems than I was using my own.

    To remedy that I got him his first iMac last year, the latest thin one, NOT running Windows, and created a wireless home network that links our desktops and files. He's also had several iPhones and an iPad, and loves them all. Even his notoriously brutal treatment of cell phones hasn't managed to destroy an iPhone yet, like he did to all his previous phones. (Of course it helps that I put them in the strongest Otter Box case)

    But don't take my word for it. Statistics by consumer tracking agencies show Apple's failure rate to be very low, user satisfaction very high, and customer assistance the highest rated across the board. I suspect the grumblers are just jealous, and their cheerleading for other companies based on little more than the "my team is better than your team" syndrome.
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    Scruffypup saidMy computer guy repairs PC's and Macs. He told me if everyone had a Mac he'd have to get a second job.
    That's probably why Mac stuff is so expensive. They gotta make their money somehow, and it sure ain't from repairs. These things are stable as fuck. My next desktop computer and laptop will be Macs.

    Would you like one? I was gonna give my 21" iMac to the SMART Ride office, but they don't seem to need it. It's yours if you want it, still a very competent computer. When are you visiting down here again?
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    Jun 30, 2013 2:42 PM GMT
    ricky1987 saidI think apple products have mediocre quality and great marketing.


    I agree. They are very overpriced too. And then there's the slave labor issue about where their products are built.
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    Jun 30, 2013 2:48 PM GMT
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    Ricky, while I will grant you that the GSM iPhone4 sold by AT&T and 3GS were crap thanks to Infineon.

    I actually don't believe you've ever owned an Apple product.


    And you've got rock-solid proof that brings you beyond a reasonable doubt to be able to make such a statement? I really hate it when people here who have NO proof whatsoever start labeling other members "liars" and "socks" and such. It's really tiresome and contributes nothing to the discussion at hand.
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    Jun 30, 2013 3:00 PM GMT
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    RobertF64 said
    Ricky, while I will grant you that the GSM iPhone4 sold by AT&T and 3GS were crap thanks to Infineon.

    I actually don't believe you've ever owned an Apple product.


    And you've got rock-solid proof that brings you beyond a reasonable doubt to be able to make such a statement? I really hate it when people here who have NO proof whatsoever start labeling other members "liars" and "socks" and such. It's really tiresome and contributes nothing to the discussion at hand.


    I think the only one calling anyone a liar is you.

    What was the actual iPad issue? Can we blame Apple because we are expecting the desktop web browsing experience instead of using the mobile website (that RJ probably should invest in)?

    Lets look at this logically for once. How do you get to be one of the top two companies by market valuation if all of your products are unreliable and have significant design flaws?

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    Scruffypup saidMy computer guy repairs PC's and Macs. He told me if everyone had a Mac he'd have to get a second job.
    That's probably why Mac stuff is so expensive. They gotta make their money somehow, and it sure ain't from repairs. These things are stable as fuck. My next desktop computer and laptop will be Macs.

    Would you like one? I was gonna give my 21" iMac to the SMART Ride office, but they don't seem to need it. It's yours if you want it, still a very competent computer. When are you visiting down here again?
    That would be awesome, thanks! I won't be back till Sept. Do you want Alvin to come by and pick it up? He's watching over my place till I get back.
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    Scruffypup saidMy computer guy repairs PC's and Macs. He told me if everyone had a Mac he'd have to get a second job.
    That's probably why Mac stuff is so expensive. They gotta make their money somehow, and it sure ain't from repairs. These things are stable as fuck. My next desktop computer and laptop will be Macs.

    Would you like one? I was gonna give my 21" iMac to the SMART Ride office, but they don't seem to need it. It's yours if you want it, still a very competent computer. When are you visiting down here again?
    That would be awesome, thanks! I won't be back till Sept. Do you want Alvin to come by and pick it up? He's watching over my place till I get back.

    That might be fun! I haven't met him yet, just spoken on the phone. Can he email me?
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    Jul 01, 2013 3:19 AM GMT
    ricky1987 saidI think apple products have mediocre quality and great marketing.


    To be fair, Apple products are very high quality with phenomenal marketing.

    That being said, they are also ridiculously expensive and restrictive.

    If you know what you're doing with the OS and software, and you know what to look for in terms of quality computer hardware, then you should buy a PC.

    You'll save a boatload of money and be able to do what you want without restrictions.

    If you're not confident in your abilities to manage the software and the OS, and you aren't all that familiar with computer hardware, then you should buy an Apple.

    The hardware used is guaranteed to be among the highest quality, and the software and OS are restricted to keep you from screwing it up.
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    Jul 01, 2013 3:38 AM GMT
    I've had my iMac for 3 1/2 years and my iPhone for 2 1/2 years and have had no issues, whatsoever. I love them so much I bought a Macbook Air.
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    Jul 01, 2013 3:44 AM GMT
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    ricky1987 saidI think apple products have mediocre quality and great marketing.


    To be fair, Apple products are very high quality with phenomenal marketing.

    That being said, they are also ridiculously expensive and restrictive.

    If you know what you're doing with the OS and software, and you know what to look for in terms of quality computer hardware, then you should buy a PC.

    You'll save a boatload of money and be able to do what you want without restrictions.

    If you're not confident in your abilities to manage the software and the OS, and you aren't all that familiar with computer hardware, then you should buy an Apple.

    The hardware used is guaranteed to be among the highest quality, and the software and OS are restricted to keep you from screwing it up.



    Well written. But, I don't understand your restricted issue. Any enterprise-class OS is going to need restrictions to defeat malware. Windows User-access-control won't be going away as their Server line would be laughed out of the marketplace if it did.

    Besides, there's always Bootcamp.